Thread: Quitting The Republican Party

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

Originally Posted by butterbean

Originally Posted by sawdust

I no longer want to be affiliated with the republican party, I am changing to the independent party.

Thats what I intend to do. But, I dont think the state of MD allows Independent or Constitution parties. I've checked, but as usual, they have a person who cant understand english, so I will have to go to DMV. The problem with that is ALL THEIR LINES ARE WRAPPED AROUND THE BLDG FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS GETTING LISCENSES.

Changing parties is a meaningless gesture after the primaries, given that voting in your party primary is the only perk membership grants you. If you do quit the party, however, you lose the ability to shape that party's ballot in the future.

IMHO, the best answer is to keep your party affiliation, whether R or D, so that you have a say in who the two juggernauts offer as candidates, then vote against them if they are not the sort of candidates you wanted. There is nothing to keep you from voting against your party in the actual election or from letting your party or pollsters know that you intend to vote for an independent, Democrat, or Mickey Mouse if that's how you want to make your statement.

One last thought:

As I mention above, the Democrats actually have a worse record by far on immigration control. Dem-controlled California is far and away the most illegal-immigrant friendly state in the union, and the California Democrats pioneered many of the tactics now used by other states to eliminate identification requirements so as to assure illegals of the ability to use the services meant for American taxpayers. What sort of message are we sending if millions of Republicans jump ship while Democrats stand pat? Are we not telling them that they are headed in the wrong direction compared to the Dems? What do you think the upshot of that will be? I can damned well tell you that pollsters will say that they were too hard on illegals while the Dems' conciliatory approach held onto their voter base. The GOP will then soften its stance even more in hopes of "keeping up" with the Dems. It's the law of unintended consequences. I urge you to think before you leap!

Co-sign to everything in the above statement.

There's no point in abandoning the Republican Party at the very moment when we're deciding which course it will take. The course of appeasement and surrender, as illlustrated by the U.S. Senate. Or the course of resistance, which has been adopted by the House.

Even if you jump ship now most patriotic, conservative Americans who are enrolled in the GOP will remain. Some will vote for the LP, or CP, or the AIP, or simply stay home, but the vast majority will remain Republicans, and when the battle between the Quislings and the patriots within the GOP is joined the traitors will inevitably lose. The only difference being that if you all decide to leave now the battle will be that much more difficult.

When Fannie Lou Hamer went up against the Democratic party shills in Atlantic City, and fought for credentials at the DNC, she did it because she realized that in order to realize her political and personal goals she and her allies in the civil rights movement needed to take over the Southern Democratic Party, and oust the Dixiecrats from their perch.

The same principle applies here.

We need to oust the Quislings, and the Mechista trash like McCain, Hagel, Martinez, etc....

I voted in a primary in the 2000 campaign that was decisive in dashing McLame's presidential aspirations, and I will gladly do so again if and when he decides to make a second go of it. That's the beauty of the electoral process. We get to decide who represents us. That's what makes us different from Mexico, or any other third world, undemocratic backwater.

Chris Simcox, Dana Rohrabacher, Tom Tancredo, Jeff Sessions, Jim Inhofe, Steve King, Peter King, Michelle Malkin, Mark Levin, etc...

Do you see these people abandoning the GOP?

No.

They're standing their ground and fighting for what they believe in.

I think we should emulate their example.

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

Good point about the primaries. I'll stay registered in GOP afterall, but I won't vote for ANY candidate who EVER smells of globalizaton or socialism or anti-Americanism ever again. My vow is to remain VIGILANT (although I thought I already was. lol) and QUESTION everyone and everything until I am SURE they are on the right side of an issue.

CROCKETT.

I agree re: Ds cutting "amendments"

However, this crap would not have gotten this far if the Rs had not put up KENNEDY/MCCAIN OR HAGEL/SCHMUCK WHOEVER.

This blatant disregard for both the Constitution and the American people would have been null & void had it not been for the Rs.

IMHO, both Rs & Ds are sleeping in the same bed. When one bends far enough to the left or to the right...........they meet.

Both parties have ONE intention. Other than a few, these amendments are insulting and against the Constitution. In essence, they're doing exactly what the courts have been doing for quite some time.

Personally, I prefer to have the ability to vote in the primary as my state doesn't allow it any other way. some states do. Those people should leave their parties.

The Rs have now shown that, other than a very small handfull, they're looking for the identical outcome as the Ds. It's all about who will grab the power...........Not about the American people or the USA.
my 2 cents

CrocketsGhost wrote:

We would be better off trying to indentify and replace four of five of those Ds with the worst voting records on the issue ir who are most vulnerable with Rs or Is who would vote for tough border control, given the margin of the loss on this key issue. Either that, or you Dems out there could start handling up on your own business in the primaries so that the margin is not so one-sided and there is no need to replace twice as many Dems as Republicans.

The Senate is the problem, no question.

Unfortunately, here in California, Boxer and Feinstein are in for life, no matter what they do.

For those of you who live in states where change is possible, go for it.

However, all of our hope now lies with the House. To throw House Republicans out because of the actions of the Senate and Bush would be suicidal. Without them, we're doomed, pure and simple.

So by all means, if your Senator is one of the traitors, work to get them voted out, but don't let your anger flow onto the House Republicans who do appear to get the message.

COUNT
In NJ, not only are they in "for life".........we resurrect them from the dead or take them out of the old folks home, put a stick up their backside and plant them on the Senate floor in full rigormortise {sp}!!

LAUTENBERG is my very appropriate example

For life? FOREVER

Here's the way I look at it.

I despise Robert Byrd, both personally and politically.

If the U.S. Senate wasn't hell-bent on destroying this country, then there is no way that I would ever find common ground with him.

However, on this subject-the most important issue of our time-he is 100% right.

Just as he was one of the only Democrats to get it right on affirmative action, i.e. discriminatory, unconstitutional racial quotas, and "hate" crimes laws that his extreme left caucus wanted to extend to gays & lesbians, he is right on the most pivotal issue of our day.

And as much as I admire and respect Jeff Sessions, Jim Inhofe, and Senator Isaakson-and applaud the great work they have done so far-I am honest enough to admit that the power they wield in the Senate-and consequently their ability to derail this amnesty monstrosity-is nothing compared to the power wielded by the Byrd Man.

I would vote for him-in spite of all my reservations-if I lived in W. Virginia, rather than install a new Republican member-with no seniority-who would be powerless to stop amnesty.

Sometimes you have to put party over principle.

However, just as the millions of Democrats who believe our sovereignity and our culture is being eroded need to wake up and start electing more Robert Byrds-perhaps a bit younger, and not as obtuse on so many other issues-so to do my fellow Republicans have to wake up and start cleaning out our own house.

SHAPKA, sadly, in this we don't agree.

Perhaps you might consider me old school or even naive. However, in my experience and more importantly in my belief

Principals always comes first. In everything I do. What I have found, looking back in hind sight of course, lol, is that when one choses "over" their principals, it could take many years........IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO BITE YOU ON THE POSTERIOR.

Please take note that this situation would never, ever have come to this critical mass has it not been for those CHOSING OVER PRINCIPAL.

Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

SHAPKA, sadly, in this we don't agree.

Perhaps you might consider me old school or even naive. However, in my experience and more importantly in my belief

Principals always comes first. In everything I do. What I have found, looking back in hind sight of course, lol, is that when one choses "over" their principals, it could take many years........IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO BITE YOU ON THE POSTERIOR.

Please take note that this situation would never, ever have come to this critical mass has it not been for those CHOSING OVER PRINCIPAL.

Ugh.

I meant to say "principle over party."

It was in reference to my comments about Robert Byrd.

Sorry for the confusion.

It's late, and my the gears in my mind are starting to wind down.

LOL, your gears are winding down and mine have blown out!

Glad we agree ........ sorry for the lecture, lol.
{just gave another one somewhere around here under yours}
I'm slap happy now.......no sleep for days.

Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

LOL, your gears are winding down and mine have blown out!

Glad we agree ........ sorry for the lecture, lol.
{just gave another one somewhere around here under yours}
I'm slap happy now.......no sleep for days.

Sorry to hear that.

I'm an insomniac, but you probably already knew that.