Thread: Ron Paul = No Amnesty

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Boston, MA - Governor Mitt Romney issued the following statement on today's U.S. Senate agreement on immigration reform:

"I strongly oppose today's bill going through the Senate. It is the wrong approach. Any legislation that allows illegal immigrants to stay in the country indefinitely, as the new 'Z-Visa' does, is a form of amnesty. That is unfair to the millions of people who have applied to legally immigrate to the U.S.

"Today's Senate agreement falls short of the actions needed to both solve our country's illegal immigration problem and also strengthen our legal immigration system. Border security and a reliable employment verification system must be our first priority."

Originally Posted by BrightNail

Originally Posted by Bren4824

Ron Paul has NO plans for going after employers!!

If he does, please post them. However, you will not find them, because he does not plan on doing it!!

How about this. Give me your phone number so I can tell you everyday via voicemail because me everyone typing you a response doesn't seem to sink in.

I eagerly (not really) await you cutting/pasting this same line another 50 times before the week is finished.

That is because you have no answer for it, so you ignore it!!!

If anything , lets keep it honest

Repeatedly saying Romney supported amnesty is not exactly the truth

Originally Posted by usanevada

.....Any meanful plan to start fixing the problem has to begin with those that employ them

that is blatantly inaccurate...

Is it better to deal with an illness AFTER YOU GET IT, or set up conditions ahead of time to PREVENT the illness?

Your approach is to deal with illegals AFTER they are here - The better approach is to remove the processess that cause illegals immigration in the FIRST PLACE.

June 11, 2007

Although action in the United States Senate this week has slowed passage of the amnesty bill, it is not yet dead as President Bush remains committed to this approach. That is why the President recently suggested that those of us who oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants are unpatriotic. Those of us who strongly oppose the new immigration reform bill before the Senate “don't want to do what's right for America ,â€

Originally Posted by BrightNail

Originally Posted by Bren4824

Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys

Originally Posted by Bren4824

It is not BS. Clear up the problem-----Post Ron Paul's plan for going after employers and holding them accountable!! You won't be able to, because he does NOT have one!!

From www.ronpaul2008.com

Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.

That looks pretty damned clear to me, Bren.

Where are the plans for going after employers??? It is not there in anything that you posted!!

Stopping welfare, etc. will NOT work. Arizona tried it beginning in 2004----and the illegals stayed and kept coming.

It wasn't until they took away their ability to get jobs-----that they began to leave immediately!!!

you are wrong. It was posted only a few weeks ago that the STOPPING of the subsidizing was actually the cause of their exodus. Also, the enforcement of EXISTING laws is what you are talking about - if that is your point, and here is Ron's position on it:

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=439

TAKEN FROM 2005 (much before your beloved Romeny decided to flip back on this flop and decide to be 'tough' - along with the ghoul).

"...A sensible bill would bolster enforcement of existing immigration laws, reject any form of amnesty, and address the underlying welfare state that adds to the problem"

BREN, CAN WE GET ANY MORE CLEARLER FOR YOU?

I think it would be very easy to contact Russell Pearce----and ask him to tell you what worked in Arizona!!

It wasn't taking away welfare, etc.-----it was when they started going after employers!!!

If a candidate is not saying that he will go after employers-----he has no intentions of doing so. And, if a candidate is not going after employers----US citizens will still have jobs taken away from them and wages reduced!!!

Originally Posted by Bren4824

That is because you have no answer for it, so you ignore it!!!

I have answered you about 10x already, it is not I who is doing the ignoring.

Originally Posted by BrightNail

Originally Posted by usanevada

.....Any meanful plan to start fixing the problem has to begin with those that employ them

that is blatantly inaccurate...

Is it better to deal with an illness AFTER YOU GET IT, or set up conditions ahead of time to PREVENT the illness?

Your approach is to deal with illegals AFTER they are here - The better approach is to remove the processess that cause illegals immigration in the FIRST PLACE.

And wouldn't eliminating the processes that allow them to get jobs
LIKE FINING AND JAILING employers pretty much take care of that problem , If they know they can't work , they won't come

Thats why they are leaving Arizona in droves now , Just the bills from last year cutting off the bennys wasn't enough to do it

Originally Posted by BrightNail

Originally Posted by usanevada

.....Any meanful plan to start fixing the problem has to begin with those that employ them

that is blatantly inaccurate...

Is it better to deal with an illness AFTER YOU GET IT, or set up conditions ahead of time to PREVENT the illness?

Your approach is to deal with illegals AFTER they are here - The better approach is to remove the processess that cause illegals immigration in the FIRST PLACE.

Right now, all candidates support the fence!!

And, even with the fence they still get in!!

If there is no plan on going after employers, the illegals will not leave and they will keep on coming!!!

Originally Posted by BrightNail

Originally Posted by Bren4824

That is because you have no answer for it, so you ignore it!!!

I have answered you about 10x already, it is not I who is doing the ignoring.

No, you post other things...

But, you do not post Ron Paul's plan for going after employers or holding employers accountable for hiring illegals.

That is what I am asking to see. However, you will not be able to post it, because nothing exists!!