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07-02-2005, 05:53 PM #21
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I don't want your poopsicle, take it back!
I don't think anyone of you should be in this group unless you truly know the feeling and know how one lives as an illegal immigrant striving to succeed and achieve things that are a lot easier for an American to get. ex. In this country it is FREE to get an education up until High School, in most hispanic countries all schools are private ... how is a poor family supossed to send a child to school so that their own life is a lot better??
THEY CANT ... most hispanic countries are lead by an unfair Government that makes corrupted decisions which are decided by money offers.
In fact just as a side note, I was at work today slaving for a minimal amount of money to pay my mortgage, because I can't pile in 20 people in my house, and I was speaking to guy giving me a hand to do my job, he is an mexican AMERICAN, he is more pissed than I am over the flood of illegals. He spent 5 years in the marines, and very proud of being an American, not a mexican American. He is outraged that the illegals are taking all the jobs that supposedly we Americans don't want. As he stated, it isn't that we don't want them, WE CAN"T AFFORD THEM! Again we can't pile 20 people in our house. So that we can pay the mortgage, water, gas, electricity, insurance car/house, food, taxes to pay the social security/medicare we will never see, telemuno, gas for vehicle(s). The frustration is more than can be simply stated in a forum! There is more of a story behind what this gentelman told me.
Im done for now... blah"I can because I will, I will because I can" ME
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07-02-2005, 06:14 PM #22
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She is right about one thing.. I do discriminate. I discriminate against all criminals. Blame it on a hang-up of mine about a petty thing called Law and Order.
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07-02-2005, 06:56 PM #23
The way that I see it is that even if you are a fantastic person and you came to this country illegally then you are just as wrong and bad as the so called Mexican gang members. How dare you sit there and say that the only illegal immigrants that should get punished are the ones that are in gangs and who are committing crimes? That's a very stupid bold statement. When your family came here they were committing a felony, do you think they should go to jail? Probably not!
I understand the reasoning of people wanting to come to our country for a better life but coming here illegally is not the way the go. It's sad the way that some countries are and I feel sorry for some countries but I don't feel sorry for the people who come her illegally and take our jobs away just so they could have a better life.
Also, when you stated that some of your illegal family are doing better than most American families, do you think we true American people are supposed to be impressed? Maybe your family is like one of the illegal Mexican families that live in my neighborhood (which is really a rich area) where they have to have 3-4 families to live in the house to pay the mortgage when there are homeless American people out on the street who can't get a job working at some minimum wage restruant or any other job because there are a bunch of illegal immigrants who have these simple jobs.
I think that not just being legal should be a requirement to come to this country but speaking English should be one of them too. It's annoying having to go to a fast food restruant on my lunch break and take almost half an hour for the cashier to take three orders because he/she can't answer a question because they don't understand English. The only English most of them understand is whatever is associated with that restruant. It quite sad and frustrating.
I'm not being hateful, I'm just stating the facts."Whatever"
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07-02-2005, 06:57 PM #24
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Welcome to ALIPAC, vicsweety.
And thank you, theywantabetterlife. Rather than change any minds, you have apparently just inspired a new member to join our cause. Good work!
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07-02-2005, 07:02 PM #25
This person, "they want a better life" is so ignorant, not stupid, that I will not respond much....unfortunately, when it comes to immigration, there aare people like "they want a better life" that cannot see what immigration and mostly illegal, is doing negatively to thhis country. This includes people like George W Bush, Kennedy and McCain lol
1. They want a better life.
2. They do the jobs nobody wants.
3. They contribute so much...
4. This land was once part of Mexico
5. We are all immigrants
These 5 statements are the convenient excuses the illegals, politicians and business owners USE to justify an illegal act! PATHETIC! IGNORANCE!
"Education is free" Hahahahahahahahahahhahaha!
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07-02-2005, 07:07 PM #26
vicsweety how about the 10 to 13 cars parked in front of the 1,000 sq foot house just up the street from ours? How about the 3 drunk illegals who slammed into the military people'c cars living next door last January?
Aurora Colorado soon to be Aurora Mexico!
Can we not say in unison...DEPORTATIONS NOW!
What do we want what do we want?
Deportations deportations..
When do we want them when do we want them?
NOW! NOW!
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07-02-2005, 07:30 PM #27
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JackSmith,
"Aurora Colorado soon to be Aurora Mexico!"
We saw that coming and that is why we moved from Aurora. But soon it will be Centennial, Parker, spreading to nicer parts of Littleton maybe even Highlands Ranch and Commerce City is already Mexico.
Welcome Vicsweety!"The defense of a nation begins at it's borders" Tancredo
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07-02-2005, 07:50 PM #28
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Re: YOU ALL ARE DISCRIMINATORS AND WRONG!
Originally Posted by theywantabetterlife
Why is it so wrong for us to ask our Government to treat illegal immigrants exactly the same as Mexico does with it's own southern border?
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07-02-2005, 08:02 PM #29
Theywantabetter--while I agree that at times some people here go overboard focusing on the pathologies of SOME illegal immigrants, painting most of them as Ms-13 gang Aztalan drones, I do have to correct you on two points.
You say education here is free. No, it's not. This government takes 40% of my income and that money is what keeps our public education system alive. There is a limit to our money. The Hispanic high school drop-out rate, nation-wide, is nearly 50% anyway so I can't help but feel not only used to pay for illegals' education, but that for the most part, it's money wasted.
My second issue with you is your use of the term "discriminators." Guess what? We are ALL discriminators and that's a good thing. It's critical thinking-- being able to discriminate-- that brought modern humans out of the caves. Only in America, with this crazy PC socialist nonsense, is critical thinking considered wrong or bad.
Now I'm going to put on my little thinking cap and do a little discriminating: America has achieved greatness due to our doing things our way, NOT Mexico's way. I do NOT want my nation becoming Mexico Part Two but that is swiftly happening. I do not want the gangs. I do not want illiteracy spreading like the plague. I do NOT want English as a second language. I do not want to NOT be able to drink the water here in the US as is the case in Mexico. And more than anything else, I do NOT want the population of the USA spirlling out of control any longer. We cannot keep up this militant breeding any longer--or we are going to pay a horrific price.
So there's some discrimination for ya. It shows I have a brain and can look at a deteriorating situation and say enough is enough. Unlike a lot of people, I am taking action, too.
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07-02-2005, 09:21 PM #30vicsweety how about the 10 to 13 cars parked in front of the 1,000 sq foot house just up the street from ours? How about the 3 drunk illegals who slammed into the military people'c cars living next door last January?
Aurora Colorado soon to be Aurora Mexico!
I live right down the road from you. I live in Lonetree, CO. Thats the area by Park Meadows mall and the Highlands Ranch area. You would be surprised as to how many (rental houses) Mexican families that live in my neighborhood. They have 3-4 families in the same house with a billion cars up and down the road with Mexico stickers all over their cars."Whatever"
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