Thread: Attention everyone I found it, please watch!

Originally Posted by bigtex

sk1951
ALIPAC Fledgling
ALIPAC Fledgling


Joined: Nov 19, 2009
Posts: 17

To be so far away from what we believe here at ALIPAC I am starting to wonder why you are even here? Surely you read some of our postings before you joined. In 17 postings you have managed to get the blood pressure up of many of us who have been here 4-5 years saying the same things.

Did not come here to cause a problem. I will go away. Sorry

In our responses to other posters' comments, let us watch how we engage those who cannot be convinced about the seriousness of the problem. We will still be here after they are gone from Alipac.

Psalm 91

Originally Posted by redpony353

Look. Dont play games with me. I already did reference it. Look back at the beginning of our conversation. The first post of mine that you addressed has the time frame. 19:32 to 19:50

Well I had to go and look. There was nothing there about amnesty. Nuff said. I am shocked that so many here...over one stupid 20min segment with an extremely rude Mexican can change the mind of so many long time supporters of Lou. This segment has only strengthened my support of him for his incredible ability to control himself. I would not have faired as well as he in the interview.

Originally Posted by sk1951

Originally Posted by redpony353

Look. Dont play games with me. I already did reference it. Look back at the beginning of our conversation. The first post of mine that you addressed has the time frame. 19:32 to 19:50

Well I had to go and look. There was nothing there about amnesty. Nuff said. I am shocked that so many here...over one stupid 20min segment with an extremely rude Mexican can change the mind of so many long time supporters of Lou. This segment has only strengthened my support of him for his incredible ability to control himself. I would not have faired as well as he in the interview.

Yes there was. Lou said we need a way for illegals to be legalized under certain conditions. That is amnesty. Anytime an illegal entrant is given legal status, that is amnesty. You can deny all you want....it is still what it is.

Originally Posted by ShockedinCalifornia

Poor Lou. He was raked through the coals by that inhospitable over-bearing Latina Maria shrew.

That's right, he was raked and faltered. He failed and he is weak. She cut off his n&ts and he ate them. I'm ashamed I ever thought he meant one word of what he said. He let a vicious and angry Mexican attack him, then let her laugh about his wife. Disgusting cr@p. IMO.

Originally Posted by sk1951

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by sk1951

Originally Posted by redpony353

19:32 to 19:50

This is the section of the tape where he says that illegals should be legalized "under certain conditions."

What is wrong with everyone here. Is everyone suggesting that the borders be closed permanently to any and everyone? That there be no immigration at all? That is absurd. Every country deals with immigration. But every other country deals with it in a much stricter sense then us. Some require X amount of money in the bank or proof of skilled labor or degree. There are issues...many issues that need to be talked about. Lou asking to "open up a dialog" is not a bad or anti-American or amnesty statement. It is one of a very rational man attempting to help a situation not make it worse. I think he did very well under a vicious frontal assault on that horrible interview...if you can call it that. I call it an attack.

You are confusing legal immigrants with illegal entrants. They are not the same thing. Illegals should never be given legal status. Are you saying illegal entrants should be given legal status. Because if you are, you are in the wrong place.

It is becomeing apparent that many here are simply looking for a fight and using one stupid interview to run down a truly great American. I am confusing nothing and am very clear in what I am saying. I repost for claitiy...

I love and support Lou. He is the ONLY one to talk about the North American Union because every one else in news it to chicken s***to do it.. But that so called immigration telo-manudo "interview" was sickening to say the least!!!

A true immigrant was a person that gave up everything to come here. They kissed the ground of America, worshiped our Freedom and GLADLY assimilated to our language and laws. They did not use our laws and good nature against us like the Mexicans do. Grow some balls AMERICA and get the illegals out of our country!!!! Judao America...you don't want your taxes to pay for abortions...DON'T MAKE ME PAY FOR ILLEGALS AND ANCHOR BABIES!!!

All BS aside. How is it that we Americans are on the defensive about this? Why can't SOMEONE asks a few questions like:

1. What does that b**** Mexican reporter think the solution is to "illegals" in her country?
2. What does Mexico do for Americans that need help there?
3. We are BROKE Nada no deneros. How is it that Mexicans expect to walk across the border and be taken care of?
4. What rights are they talking about that are being violated? They are ILLEGAL...they have no rights!!! They have the right to go back where they came from...that is it!!!
5. How did 'migrant worker" become a desperate down and out "immigrant"? Walking across a border illegally does not make anyone an IMMIGRANT! It makes them an illegal trespasser!!!
6. Pink shorts for prisoners...they need just say Thank You!??? What does Mexico give Americans that are incarcerated?
7. The talking point of 20 or 30 percent in jail are illegals is incredible!!!! There should be none because there should be NO ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

I AM SICK OF IT!!! This PC thing is killing us! It is not just Mexicans it is all illegals. You want to come here... get a pass port or work papers, file for citizenship and be assimilated. If you can't do that...we don't want or need you!

But kissing ass with illegals is just to much for me to stomach. They are law breakers. There is no way to openly discuss it. Why not give amnesty to bank robbers and child molesters too! Sorry...this has just gone way to far.

Am I a racist? I guess I am if wanting my laws upheld and my country protected makes me so. I am sick of it all! Like Lou...I support LEGAL immigration. There is no dialog for illegal. Come to our country...obey the laws or get out!!! Or get arrested if you run into sheriff Joe. And speaking of which. How can it be legal to shackle a sheriff for obeying/upholding the laws? How can he be faulted for targeting illegals? That is his job!!! They are ILLEGAL!

And don't say it's not that simple because many have families here now. That's like saying...well when this guy started robbing banks he did not have a family but he does now so I guess we just have to let him keep robbing banks. It's ILLEGAL!!

Now as to whether I belong here I do not know but I am not interested in attitudes from you or anyone. I simply am here to idea exchange and learn.

Welcome to ALIPAC sk1951 and of course you belong here! This is where we vent and argue and plan and plot to save our country from the ravages of illegal immigration. It's the only haven on Earth for such a dialogue. We often disagree on how, who, where and why but .. we all agree unequivocally that we want our borders secured, US immigration law enforced and illegal aliens deported.

We do need to remain calm. It's a long time until the 2012 election. We all do owe Lou Dobbs so much because without him, we would all be very much in the dark on many important immigration and trade topics that are so important to us all.

Originally Posted by sk1951

Originally Posted by April

What I saw was a man groveling and back peddling. IT was disgusting.

What would you say if he would have gotten pissed off, made a fool of himself and walked off? Get real...he did a wonderful job under a horrible situation.

I have seen him time and time again on CNN get miffed and debate some idiot into the ground, he chose not too...............it was a wonderful job sucking up to Maria.

[quote=sk1951]

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by sk1951

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by sk1951

Originally Posted by "redpony353":14006iff

19:32 to 19:50

This is the section of the tape where he says that illegals should be legalized "under certain conditions."

What is wrong with everyone here. Is everyone suggesting that the borders be closed permanently to any and everyone? That there be no immigration at all? That is absurd. Every country deals with immigration. But every other country deals with it in a much stricter sense then us. Some require X amount of money in the bank or proof of skilled labor or degree. There are issues...many issues that need to be talked about. Lou asking to "open up a dialog" is not a bad or anti-American or amnesty statement. It is one of a very rational man attempting to help a situation not make it worse. I think he did very well under a vicious frontal assault on that horrible interview...if you can call it that. I call it an attack.

You are confusing legal immigrants with illegal entrants. They are not the same thing. Illegals should never be given legal status. Are you saying illegal entrants should be given legal status. Because if you are, you are in the wrong place.

It is becomeing apparent that many here are simply looking for a fight and using one stupid interview to run down a truly great American. I am confusing nothing and am very clear in what I am saying. I repost for claitiy...

I love and support Lou. He is the ONLY one to talk about the North American Union because every one else in news it to chicken s***to do it.. But that so called immigration telo-manudo "interview" was sickening to say the least!!!

A true immigrant was a person that gave up everything to come here. They kissed the ground of America, worshiped our Freedom and GLADLY assimilated to our language and laws. They did not use our laws and good nature against us like the Mexicans do. Grow some balls AMERICA and get the illegals out of our country!!!! Judao America...you don't want your taxes to pay for abortions...DON'T MAKE ME PAY FOR ILLEGALS AND ANCHOR BABIES!!!

All BS aside. How is it that we Americans are on the defensive about this? Why can't SOMEONE asks a few questions like:

1. What does that b**** Mexican reporter think the solution is to "illegals" in her country?
2. What does Mexico do for Americans that need help there?
3. We are BROKE Nada no deneros. How is it that Mexicans expect to walk across the border and be taken care of?
4. What rights are they talking about that are being violated? They are ILLEGAL...they have no rights!!! They have the right to go back where they came from...that is it!!!
5. How did 'migrant worker" become a desperate down and out "immigrant"? Walking across a border illegally does not make anyone an IMMIGRANT! It makes them an illegal trespasser!!!
6. Pink shorts for prisoners...they need just say Thank You!??? What does Mexico give Americans that are incarcerated?
7. The talking point of 20 or 30 percent in jail are illegals is incredible!!!! There should be none because there should be NO ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

I AM SICK OF IT!!! This PC thing is killing us! It is not just Mexicans it is all illegals. You want to come here... get a pass port or work papers, file for citizenship and be assimilated. If you can't do that...we don't want or need you!

But kissing ass with illegals is just to much for me to stomach. They are law breakers. There is no way to openly discuss it. Why not give amnesty to bank robbers and child molesters too! Sorry...this has just gone way to far.

Am I a racist? I guess I am if wanting my laws upheld and my country protected makes me so. I am sick of it all! Like Lou...I support LEGAL immigration. There is no dialog for illegal. Come to our country...obey the laws or get out!!! Or get arrested if you run into sheriff Joe. And speaking of which. How can it be legal to shackle a sheriff for obeying/upholding the laws? How can he be faulted for targeting illegals? That is his job!!! They are ILLEGAL!

And don't say it's not that simple because many have families here now. That's like saying...well when this guy started robbing banks he did not have a family but he does now so I guess we just have to let him keep robbing banks. It's ILLEGAL!!

Now as to whether I belong here I do not know but I am not interested in attitudes from you or anyone. I simply am here to idea exchange and learn.

I watched the interview just like everyone else. I did not want to believe it, but I saw it and heard it. Lou said that he advocates amnesty. I dont know why he changed, but he did. And he must know that this is all over the net by now and he has not come out to clarify his statement. In fact, included in the interview, were statements where he tried to backtrack on former positions he held. So unless he comes out to clarify where he stands, I have to go with his last statements. He advocates amnesty. That is where he stands. You want to stay in denial? Be my guest, but not me.

I am not going to go back and watch that piece of crap again. But I assure you...he NEVER asked for or suggested with the word "amnesty". Now I am a very patient man and do not attempt to tell people where they should go or where they belong. What ever it is...we are on this boat together...just in different seats. At times it feels like the Titanic. But please...since this is your talking point...go back and find where your statement can be made factual and reference it time wise to the clip so I can go there and just watch that segment. Sorry...this issue and string does have my hair hackled a bit.[/quote:14006iff]

sk1951,

Welcome to ALIPAC. If you ask around Washington DC you will make the amazing discovery that almost no elected officials are for Amnesty. It is incredible.

Yet, they want a path to citizenship for illegal aliens that they claim is not an amnesty. It would just change the existing laws of the US to accommodate over 12 million people that broke those laws that will no longer have to pay the existing penalties which is to be forced to leave the US and be barred from immigrating legally for ten years.

Any path to citizenship for illegal aliens or changing the current laws to accommodate their wants on behalf of the special interest groups and the US chamber of commerce is AMNESTY in our book.

And regardless of what you want to call it, nobody that is like what we thought Lou Dobbs was will be able to be elected or stay elected once 12 million illegals are given voting rights.


So if those illegals get the power to vote, you can kiss the borders of the US goodbye.

Dobbs comments about legalizing is powerful stuff that has people in shock and then this "spokesperson" comes out with this lingo we have all heard before.

It is sounding like Lou Dobbs has some new friends and his new friends smell like NAU planners to me.

Same song.

Unless Lou Dobbs rushes out of the shadows one day very soon and clears all this up with some powerful language, we will have to pull our support for him and if it comes to that next week the fallout will be incredible and it will possibly destroy us all.

But we cannot support any candidate or person that advocates legalizing illegal aliens because that is against the wishes of approximately 78% of Americans.

W

Originally Posted by April

Originally Posted by sk1951

Originally Posted by April

What I saw was a man groveling and back peddling. IT was disgusting.

What would you say if he would have gotten pissed off, made a fool of himself and walked off? Get real...he did a wonderful job under a horrible situation.

I have seen him time and time again on CNN get miffed and debate some idiot into the ground, he chose not too...............it was a wonderful job sucking up to Maria.

Lou has SUPERIOR debate skills. He did not use those skills in this interview. He handed it right over to Maria.....very disappointing.

Yes, W, Lou needs to come out of the shadows and clear this all up.