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    12 Counties secede from California?

    Official Calls For Riverside, 12 Other Counties To Secede From California
    New state would have no term limits, part-time legislature
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    2011 Celebrity DeathsRIVERSIDE (CBS) — Is the state of California about to go “South
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    Learned about this news while listening to the radio where I heard an interview with Supervisor Stone and came here to see if anyone had posted news about it. This would be a dream come true.
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    Supervisor Proposing 13 Counties Secede From California

    Under the proposal, Riverside, Imperial, San Diego, Orange, San Bernardino, Kings, Kern, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera, Mariposa and Mono would be asked to consider forming a 51st state, the State of South California.


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    Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone, 3rd District, announced Thursday that he will ask leaders in 13 counties to begin discussions about seceding from the State of California.

    Under the proposal, Riverside, Imperial, San Diego, Orange, San Bernardino, Kings, Kern, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera, Mariposa and Mono would be asked to consider forming a 51st state, the State of South California.

    Boards of supervisors and city councils within those counties would be invited to meet and discuss the feasibility of secession from California, Stone said in a statement sent by Ray Smith, spokesman for the Riverside County Executive Office.

    "He is so disenfranchised with the state's inabilities," said Verne Lauritzen, Stone's chief of staff, in a phone interview late Thursday.

    "So he is recommending we start some discussions with other counties, and there are lots of them.

    "He is dead serious."

    Lauritzen said Stone, who represents the communities of Murrieta, Temecula, Menifee, Canyon Lake, Hemet and San Jacinto, as well as several unincorporated areas, is largely frustrated with the Legislature's passage of Senate Bill 89.

    The bill threatens to dismantle newly incorportated cities because it diverts vehicle license fee revenue to fund public safety.

    The bill would drastically affect newly incorporated cities of Wildomar, Menifee, Eastvale and Jurupa Valley, Lauritzen said.

    All are dependent on the vehicle license fee revenue.

    Wildomar stands to lose $1.8 million in revenues if SB 89 is not amended. Potential revenue losses for the three other new cities are even higher, with Eastvale standing to lose $3.1 million, Jurupa losing $6.2 million, and Menifee dropping $3.9 million, according to a letter written by legislators to Gov. Jerry Brown.

    The legislators asked the governor to return Senate Bill 89 to lawmakers for amendments.

    “This revenue accounts for 20 percent to 25 percent of the entire budget for these new cities. These cities will be seriously impacted by this realignment and will have way no ability to recover from this devastating loss of revenue. The four cities in Western Riverside County (and unknown others statewide) may be forced into bankruptcy or un-incorporation as a direct result of this bill,
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    Also during the interview he gave his website in case people want to send him a message.
    http://www.supjeffstone.org/
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    Stone suggested the new state consider a part-time legislature, shifting governance more toward local control. Part-time legislators might receive only a $600 per month stipend and no other financial benefits except travel expenses to the new state capitol, he said.

    Also open for consideration would be doing away with term limits, actually enforcing the state’s borders, adopting reasonable sales taxes and a provision like Prop. 13 that would control property taxes.
    Great idea!
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    What's he going to do with all the illegal invaders currently squatting within his district? Riverside is loaded with illegal invaders! What's the plan for that?
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    Is Hesperia included? (That's where my daughter and her family live) and I don't know what county Hesperia is.....
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    Interesting. I wonder what the law says about something like this? Wouldn't Congress have to approve the creation of a new state?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    Is Hesperia included? (That's where my daughter and her family live) and I don't know what county Hesperia is.....
    Yes, Hesperia is in San Bernardino County.
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    Menifee is old Sun City (what was wrong with Sun City ?), and both Wildomar, and Menifee should be covered by the Riverside Sheriffs department, or Riverside PD, and have county services available otherwise. They should have relied on Americans breeding, and buying houses in those districts, instead of illegals doing the same thing. Stupid is as stupid does, and stupid gets paid stupid wages, and stupid inherits stupidity from stupidity. They chose to stop breeding Americans there, and their choice brought uncontrollable crime. Duhuhuh!
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    http://www.pe.com/localnews/temecula/st ... df778.html

    Look at the salary of Temecula City Manager. $336,000.
    How many Cops would that salary employ? Talk about bloated salaries? Talk about greed? They have to secede because of people like this run the coffers dry ! They need to buy a tour bus motorhome, and live in a McMansion, instead of a nice house, and a small motorhome. The folks that are upset are those city managers, city police chiefs, fire chiefs, etc... that need their $150,000 gubment salary. I just heard they are going to get the money they need from ticketing folks for every little thing they can.
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