Thread: Mexico Annexes Los Angeles ?

Originally Posted by Sniff

Anybody in the Los Angeles area up for some paintball target practice????

Sniff

Our organization is very active in Southern California. Feel free to check in on us to see what we are up to.

Our next event is in Laguna Beach though.

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Liberman Broadcasting, the developers of the LA billboard, offer a "reality show" to win the services of a law firm to gain a "green card." With this show and the billboard, does it appear they are pushing immigration...legal or otherwise? Hmmm ....

Going extreme to pursue dream
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
August 18, 2004

[b]A popular new reality TV show offers illegal aliens a chance to win the services of a law firm to gain a "green card" â€â€

http://www.rbr.com/epaper/issue159-04.html


Liberman under fire for Green Card show
Radio Business Reports
August 16, 2004

Latino activist groups are demanding that Liberman Broadcasting cancel "Gana la Verde" (Win the Green), which is produced by Liberman's KRCA-TV Los Angeles and also airs on its TV stations in San Diego, Houston and Dallas. The reality show is a bit like NBC's "Fear Factor," with contestants engaging in on-camera stunts such as eating live tequila worms or lying in a coffin with rats. The Latino groups don't object to the stunts, but rather to the prize - - a year's worth of free legal assistance from experienced immigration lawyers. The activists charge that the broadcaster is exploiting illegal immigrants and makes them potential targets for immigration agents. But Liberman Broadcasting COO Lenard Liberman isn't yielding to the complaints. He told the Los Angeles Times that he wanted to create a Spanish reality show that offered viewers something they couldn't afford on their own as a prize. Thus, the heavy-duty help in obtaining legal status. Even so, contestants have to sign an extensive release which specifies that there is no guarantee that the lawyers will be able to get them a green card. Liberman said he's willing to listen to the objectors, but said there had been no complaints from viewers or anyone who has participated in the show

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What's Wrong With 'Win The Green'?
Aug. 26, 2004
Winning Green Cards On TV



Lenard Liberman in Dallas and Victor Nieblas in Los Angeles (Photo: CBS)

(CBS) In reality TV shows, from "Fear Factor" to "Survivor," contestants try to "win the green" as in cold, hard cash. But in a new cable program, the "green" is actually a green card. Immigrants square off for a chance to win permanent residency in the U.S.

It was Lenard Liberman’s idea to create "Gana la Verde" or "Win the Green." The executive vice president of Liberman Broadcasting explains to The Early Show co-anchor Julie Chen how his show works.

“Basically, six people appear every day on the show,� Liberman explains. “The show is on the air five days a week, Monday through Friday. We hope to produce at least 110 shows a year, and those six people go through a series of physical challenges culminating in a job challenge and here is one final winner who, at the end of the program, wins one year’s worth of legal assistance in their immigration case before the INS.�

The aim is not only to provide entertainment, but to help the community, Lieberman notes. But Victor Nieblas disagrees. His organization, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, has called for "Gana la Verde" to be pulled off the air for several reasons.

“One, we believe it preys on people’s fears. It targets the people who are desperate in our society,� Nieblas says. “Two, it gives false promises and false hopes. No one can guarantee a green card, not even Mr. Lieberman, and number three, it makes these contestants targets for the Department of Homeland Security to detain them and support them and separate them from their families.�

Liberman, however, says an extensive pre-screening process ensures that the contestants are not illegal in the U.S.

He says, “Every person on the show meets with four different people on our program and, in the course of that interview process and prescreening process, they have a waiver that they review and read in Spanish. It’s 20 pages or so. In there, they represent they’re 18 years or older. They represent that they’re legal residents of the United States. So from our perspective and from the show’s perspective, the participants are legally in the United States.�

He also notes one of the perks of his reality show is that people who participate can transfer the prize to a friend or family member who is in need of legal service.

Liberman points out the only thing that differentiates his show from say “Fear Factor� or “Survivor� is just the prize.

“Nobody is preying on people’s fears,� he says. “They’re over 18 years old; you can decide to enlist in the military and fight a war in Iraq; decide to raise a family; and you can decide to create a career for yourself, but for some reason, our critics don’t think they’re capable of appearing on a reality show. No one is misleading anybody.�

The problem, Nieblas says, is that it is hard to guarantee contestants will get the desirable green card.

“Immigration law is very complex, very difficult, and for someone to say, 'I’m going to promise you legal benefit,' I think there is a big problem with that,� Nieblas says. �First of all, the immigration service does not act within one year. It’s almost literally impossible. That’s why the former INS was dismantled, because of the backlog, and to promise someone and say. 'We’re going to get you a green card within the year' is, again, false promise, false hope.�

Asked if anyone has obtained a green card as a result of appearing on his show, Liberman says, “One of our contenders qualified for a green card two years ago but couldn’t afford an attorney or legal services. Through our show, he’s well on his way through the process and should be receiving a green card.

"Another gentleman took the bar in Italy and appeared on our show. He will get legal permanent residence in the United States, and one was a professional in Mexico, an attorney, came to the United States on her husband’s visa. The majority of our winners qualify for improved legal status in the United States within the INS system, so nobody is breaking the system or making false promises.�

So, in essence, the show does not promise a Green Card, but just legal help to get one. But if that is so, Nieblas says, “There are many community-based organizations that we work with that provide the free legal service.�

That's a legal service Lieberman says does not exist. “The free legal services that Mr. Nieblas talks about, I think they’re in the same streets of gingerbread houses and candy cane trees. They don’t exist and we’re giving help to them,� Liberman says.

"Gana la Verde" is currently getting high ratings in Los Angeles, San Diego, Houston, and Dallas.

SaveOurState, I half agree. Yet it is a REAL threat and I was just pointing out why it might be difficult to get someone to appear on TV.

I don't suppose you are aware that the FBI takes plate numbers of people who attend certain rallies (regardless of which side they are on) that they have files on political activists.

I don't suppose you know that thousands of people have jobs that involve security clearances that need to be protected. Those people cannot get involved in any sort of political action because they risk their jobs if they do.

Well, it only stands to reason that on an issue like illegal immigration, with several opposing sides (even though the numbers of opposition are diminishing) would have enemies.

So don't get too hasty to call people chickens who don't want to get murdered or lose their livlihood. Some must work from the sidelines.

From Talk Radio 790 KABC Wesite:
http://www.kabc.com/listingsEntry.asp?ID=325419&PT=

Noticias 62 is a Spanish language channel, which believes California is Mexico. They advertise their beliefs with giant billboards. Well guess what? California is NOT Mexico. Noticias 62 is owned by Liberman Broadcasting, Inc.

Send the rats at Liberman a thank you for exposing themselves as part of the reconquista movement. A simple floral arrangement (whatever you can afford) should be sent to:

Roses For Rats
Jose Liberman, President, Liberman Broadcasting, Inc.
c/o TalkRadio 790 KABC
3321 South LaCienega Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90016

(310) 840-4900 (the florist will need this number for delivery to KABC)

Ask the florist to include the following message in the gift card:

"Thanks for being a rat".

TalkRadio 790 KABC will deliver your flowers by truck after McIntyre in the Morning on Friday, April 29th. Flowers must be at KABC by 10AM on Friday morning.

1-800-PROFLOWERS / www.proflowers.com or the florist of your choice, but make sure they are sent to TalkRadio 790 KABC by 10AM Friday morning!

Important: Do not make threats, do not use race-based language. We want to make a point, not fan the flames of hatred.

If you want to give up twenty or thrity bucks, don't send flowers--donate it to ALIPAC! William Gheen is a valiant spokesman for the cause and he can use those contributions! I saw him with my own eyes in Greenville NC the other night. I believe he's going to carry this banner far enough to get positive results! Wm needs support more than some joker in LA needs vindictive flowers.

Originally Posted by HoosierMama

I heard back from my friend who saw 3 of these billboards in San Fernando Valley. Here's what he had to say:

Here's some info requested. One of the billboards is at the
Corner of Sepulveda and Victory Blvd. in the S.Fern. Valley. It is owned by Clearchannel. Exact same billboard as the one pictured in worldnetdaily.com article. I'll confirm other locations this wk.

Other news, Doug McIntyre anounced today that he has a plan on how to
respond to channel 62's ad - he told listerners to go onto www.kabc.com
after midnight tonight to find out what his plan is. I know that would be really late for all you guys, but I thought I 'd pass this on to you.

I will get more info about other locations.

Please pass this along - Any vandalism of these billboards must be
discouraged. We must EDUCATE the masses in a postive way, that will be much more effective in the long run. Let the other side shoot themselves in the foot, as they have done in the past to our benefit.

HoosierMama,

Thanks much for the information! This story just keeps "going and going." I checked the radio station's website and like their novel idea. "Roses for Rats" HA!

Originally Posted by JBJ

From Talk Radio 790 KABC Wesite:
http://www.kabc.com/listingsEntry.asp?ID=325419&PT=

Noticias 62 is a Spanish language channel, which believes California is Mexico. They advertise their beliefs with giant billboards. Well guess what? California is NOT Mexico. Noticias 62 is owned by Liberman Broadcasting, Inc.

Send the rats at Liberman a thank you for exposing themselves as part of the reconquista movement. A simple floral arrangement (whatever you can afford) should be sent to:

Roses For Rats
Jose Liberman, President, Liberman Broadcasting, Inc.
c/o TalkRadio 790 KABC
3321 South LaCienega Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90016

(310) 840-4900 (the florist will need this number for delivery to KABC)

Ask the florist to include the following message in the gift card:

"Thanks for being a rat".

TalkRadio 790 KABC will deliver your flowers by truck after McIntyre in the Morning on Friday, April 29th. Flowers must be at KABC by 10AM on Friday morning.

1-800-PROFLOWERS / www.proflowers.com or the florist of your choice, but make sure they are sent to TalkRadio 790 KABC by 10AM Friday morning!

Important: Do not make threats, do not use race-based language. We want to make a point, not fan the flames of hatred.

Some black roses perhaps?

Maybe some mushy avacados?