Thread: FairTax and Trade

Originally Posted by jtdc

All of your claims!

The idea of tariffs on imported items is to raise the price to meet an equivalent price for an American product. Your tax would raise the price of all products leaving the import with the advantage it would have if we didn't have a sales tax. The tariff is only applied to the imported products, and that is the equalizer!

You are apparently too ignorant to read what I have written several times. It is an insignificant burden!

And there is no record to see. So anything sold out the back door can add 23% to the profit on the item. Pretty attractive to many.

So it cannot reduce the National Debt. ANOTHER OF YOUR FALSE CLAIMS FOR YOUR SNAKE-OIL!

In World Wars, Income Tax was ordered. And we have seen many times that a "temporary tax" becomes a permanent tax. Taxes are very seldom reduced. The FairTax can likewise be changed. It is not carved in stone! Until Congress stops spending more than we take in, the debt will grow. And we have seen that Congress will raise taxes (and raise their wages) to cover the spending they legislate. Or borrow more, putting us deeper in debt. Look at how many Continuing Resolutions we have had in recent years, and raises in the Debt Ceiling! Your nuts if you think changing the way we collect money will fix anything!

On my God, you don't know anything about the FairTax. The FairTax doesn't raise the price of any domestic product, it actually lowers it. It raises the price of imports simply because most of them pay no tax or tariff at all while American Businesses are supporting one of the most expensive markets on the globe and a very expensive government. You want access to our market, you're going to pay or go sell your shit somewhere else. Try Canada!! They're all "global". Try Germany, they're all "global."

No the tax on illegal aliens is a very very significant cost. See you don't understand how the Rebate works, that's why you get angry and ugly. You don't understand the math.

Americans qualify for a Rebate equal to $226 a month per adult and $81 per child. Illegal aliens don't.

A family of four, 2 adults and 2 children would receive a monthly rebate of $661 dollars, based on 1/12 of the annual rebate of $7,328 based on a household consumption allowance of $31,680.

$661 a month divided by 160 hours a month is $4.00 an hour on a standard work week of 40 hours a week for 4 weeks.

So illegal aliens are punished big time by the FairTax and being excluded from the FairTax Rebate. They not only lose all their income tax handouts, they now have to pay $661 a month in FairTaxes that Americans don't have to pay if they sign up for the Rebate. The Americans receive their wage of say $10 an hour plus $4.00 an hour in Household Rebate which is $16.00 before they decide how to spend their money. And in the American household, there are usually 2 jobs so that's $24 an hour for the household. Illegal aliens vying for the same job only make $10.00 an hour usually for 1 worker before they spend their money, and after FairTaxes only have $6.00 an hour compared to the Americans who have their full $20.00 an hour for two adults earning at least $10 an hour each.

It's a huge debilitating penalty for illegal aliens compared to American Workers whose jobs illegal aliens are trying to steal by undercutting them. I mean maybe you know a bunch of illegal aliens who can live in California with a wife and 2 kids on $6 an hour, but I don't know anyone who can live anywhere on that.

No, I'm not nuts, you're nuts, a crazy hysteric about to lose his beloved income tax. How Congress spends the money it receives is up to them and their constituents. But with the FairTax taxing imports, illegal aliens and tourists, while our manufacturers and producers are all tax-free, lean, efficient machines, our workers are going home with all their paycheck free of federal income and payroll withholdings ..... and the government ends up with much more money than it ever did under the income tax raised voluntarily by consumer choice and from many new sources ..... if you can't see the beauty in this tax plan and all that it does to help those of US who really want to fix our country, then you can just be an Ole Grumpy upset that you lost your Turbo Tax stock which might be MW's concern or someone in the family had to look for a new job because their income tax employer went out business or like Johnwk, grumbling over how all hope of his feudal lord system he wants is lost and even now "no longer in print" and he's stuck filing very simple monthly FairTax reports on his retail services.

But many new better investments will be available for stock purchases, many new jobs for bustling businesses and companies who need people who are good with paperwork and counting money, and I think most states will say "hell with this income and property tax crap, lets go all sales tax like the FairTax" and every American will shout from the rooftops, "THANK YOU JUDY AND PRESIDENT TRUMP!"

Republicans will control the Congress for many years to protect our FairTax, to protect our trade, to protect our workers and to protect our borders.

No American will ever lose their home, business, savings, earnings or freedom because of a federal income tax issue and I think soon after, from a state income or local property tax issue either. SS and Medicare will never run out of money, and Americans will be safe, sufficient, employed, prosperous and happy.

Vote Republican in 2018 and Make the FairTax Happen!!