Thread: FairTax and Trade

Originally Posted by Judy

The FairTax doesn't raise the price of any domestic product, it actually lowers it.

You need to ease up on those drugs. Now you can't even do simple math! 23% of the price of an item added to the price of that item raises the cost, it does not lower it. Only the black market can do that!

Originally Posted by Judy

It raises the price of imports simply because most of them pay no tax or tariff at all while American Businesses are supporting one of the most expensive markets on the globe and a very expensive government.

But they raise the cost of the American product exactly as much. So the advantage remains!

Originally Posted by Judy

You want access to our market, you're going to pay or go sell your shit somewhere else. Try Canada!! They're all "global". Try Germany, they're all "global."

But if it is imported to our country, our people are the ones who pay, not the country shipping to us!

Originally Posted by Judy

Americans qualify for a Rebate equal to $226 a month per adult and $81 per child. Illegal aliens don't.

$226 out of $2000 earned, is insignificant. And since they are illegal, they probably will buy on the black market, so they get everything without the 23%!

Originally Posted by Judy

$661 a month divided by 160 hours a month is $4.00 an hour on a standard work week of 40 hours a week for 4 weeks.

You sure are lowballing your figures to push your sales tax. They are more likely getting $8 to $10 per hour and working 60 hours a week, which would be more like $2400 per month! A whole lot more than they could make in their country. No sale on the bull!

Originally Posted by Judy

Republicans will control the Congress for many years to protect our FairTax, to protect our trade, to protect our workers and to protect our borders.

Oh yeah! The are really doing a bang-up job now, aren't they? They are almost as swampy as the Democrats.

Originally Posted by Judy

No American will ever lose their home, business, savings, earnings or freedom because of a federal income tax issue

No! But the sales tax won't keep them from losing their house if they can't pay their bills after paying that 23% tax, plus state taxes!

Originally Posted by Judy

SS and Medicare will never run out of money, and Americans will be safe, sufficient, employed, prosperous and happy.

ONLY IF CONGRESS BALANCES THE BUDGETS!

Originally Posted by jtdc

Gee, you were unaware that there was an underground economy. Now that you see the evidence, that it may be 1/3 the size of the legitimate economy, you think your sales tax is not as vulnerable, and probably more than our Income Tax method.

Yeah, I don't deal with fishy characters or criminals. Apparently you've had quite some experiences looking for your cheap products.

Originally Posted by Judy

When you learn the difference between a tax and a Anti-FairTax Lobby article about a mark-up, then you should speak. Until then, you should be quiet.

The truth is in the legislation. You sell something for $100, you send $23 to the state not $30. You'll go to jail for overcharging customers if you charge them $30.

And you're right, I'm not fooling anyone. You are. This kind of misinformation because you don't understand the difference between a tax and mark-up is really dangerous, scary even. Geez. So irresponsible.

If anyone has learned anything from this thread, it is that you are the queen of obfuscation, misinformation, misdirection, hyperbole, exaggeration, and fabrication. You're like a broken record player on this issue and are completely oblivious to the truth .. even when hit full in the face with it.

Your scripted talking points from the AFFT are very redundant and have become extremely boring. If you're an example of other activist from the American For Fair Taxation (AFFT) advocacy group, it's no wonder the plan has gained no traction over the last two decades.

Originally Posted by jtdc

You need to ease up on those drugs. Now you can't even do simple math! 23% of the price of an item added to the price of that item raises the cost, it does not lower it. Only the black market can do that!

But they raise the cost of the American product exactly as much. So the advantage remains!

But if it is imported to our country, our people are the ones who pay, not the country shipping to us!

$226 out of $2000 earned, is insignificant. And since they are illegal, they probably will buy on the black market, so they get everything without the 23%!

You sure are lowballing your figures to push your sales tax. They are more likely getting $8 to $10 per hour and working 60 hours a week, which would be more like $2400 per month! A whole lot more than they could make in their country. No sale on the bull!

Oh yeah! The are really doing a bang-up job now, aren't they? They are almost as swampy as the Democrats.

No! But the sales tax won't keep them from losing their house if they can't pay their bills after paying that 23% tax, plus state taxes!

ONLY IF CONGRESS BALANCES THE BUDGETS!

The FairTax isn't added to the price, it's already in the price plus it taxes new sources like illegal aliens, imports sold here, and tourists and visitors.

I know this discussion of FairTax and Trade and now FairTax and Illegal Immigration has really pulled the rug out of from under you, but it's all true, all Americans know that taxing imports at the same rate as domestic products is the only "fair" thing to do in our market. All Americans know that ending income tax giveaways to illegal aliens is the right thing to do which the FairTax does because it repeals all income based taxes and taxes illegal aliens fully when they consume while our dear Americans have a nice Rebate for necessities if they want it. American know that this is not only "fair", it's the right thing to do. After all, this is our country, not theirs. We want Americans First, both workers and businesses. And the FairTax protects them both whereas the income tax has sold both our workers and businesses out.

Time for Action on the FairTax! Sooner the better!!

HR 25 in the US House of Representatives!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2018!!

Originally Posted by MW

If anyone has learned anything from this thread, it is that you are the queen of obfuscation, misinformation, misdirection, hyperbole, exaggeration, and fabrication. You're like a broken record player on this issue and are completely oblivious to the truth .. even when hit full in the face with it.

Your scripted talking points from the AFFT are very redundant and have become extremely boring. If you're an example of other activist from the American For Fair Taxation (AFFT) advocacy group, it's no wonder the plan has gained no traction over the last two decades.

I think people who have viewed this thread want to know why you want to keep an income tax that sells out our businesses and workers instead of pass the FairTax that protects them both.

Originally Posted by Judy

I think people who have viewed this thread want to know why you want to keep an income tax that sells out our businesses and workers instead of pass the FairTax that protects them both.

It doesn't have to be your way or the highway. Trading one bad plan for a fake promise of lollipops and gumdrops isn't a winner for the American people. Come up with a plan that doesn't absolutely soak the middle class and maybe I'll support it. The unfair tax plan is not such a plan!

The FairTax doesn't "soak" the middle class, it saves the middle class family thousands of dollars per year while bringing our industries home, creating tons of good jobs, increasing profits for our businesses which raises wages and benefits for their employees and vendors which benefits the middle class tremendously.

Originally Posted by Judy

The FairTax doesn't "soak" the middle class, it saves the middle class family thousands of dollars per year while bringing our industries home, creating tons of good jobs, increasing profits for our businesses which raises wages and benefits for their employees and vendors which benefits the middle class tremendously.

Goodness gracious! Have you ever attempted to search facts outside of the AFFT talking points? I've looked at this issue from both sides and know for a fact that you're not representing the unfair tax plan honestly and without bias.

Originally Posted by Judy

The FairTax isn't added to the price, it's already in the price

So they try to hide it from the consumer! That makes is a Value Added Tax! Whether added before the price tag is printed, or after, it raises the price of the item by the 23%, whether it is domestically produced or imported!

Originally Posted by Judy

plus it taxes new sources like illegal aliens

Granted that!

Originally Posted by Judy

imports sold here

Already done!

Originally Posted by Judy

and tourists and visitors.

Another granted!

Originally Posted by Judy

I know this discussion of FairTax and Trade and now FairTax and Illegal Immigration has really pulled the rug out of from under you

Only in your imagination!

Originally Posted by Judy

I think people who have viewed this thread want to know why you want to keep an income tax that sells out our businesses and workers instead of pass the FairTax that protects them both.

I think you are the only one. Others are certainly free to chime in, yet they don't! I guess they understand what you can't comprehend!