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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie
    AGAIN I INSIST WITH OR WITHOUT THE FENCE IF WE DON'T FIGHT THE NORTH AMERICA UNION IT WILL NOT HELP.
    ILLEGALS WILL BE BACK .THEY ARE PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE,NAU,SPP, GLOBALIZATION, ERRADICATION OF THE BORDERS, OUR SOVEREIGNTY.
    So, Ron Paul's solution is no fence-----let's just make it easier for them to get here.

    And, not going after employers-----I don't want to get my corporate buddies upset with me!!!
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    Bren, it's more than about the fence. if you don't have boots on the ground to watch the fence, what good is it?

    As far as the NAU, Ron Paul is strictly against that and the LOST Treaty and he would pull us out of the UN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinybobidaho
    Bren, it's more than about the fence. if you don't have boots on the ground to watch the fence, what good is it?

    As far as the NAU, Ron Paul is strictly against that and the LOST Treaty and he would pull us out of the UN.
    He voted against the Duncan Hunter Fence bill-----which included increased border agents and technology.

    The Border Patrol can NO way guard the entire border without a fence----no matter how many of them that there are.
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    I don't know why he voted against the fence, but I do know he wants to bring the border patrol home from Iraq and put them back on the border. If all the bennies were stopped for illegal aliens and we stopped the anchor baby frenzy, there wouldn't be as many coming across the border. Paul is against spending any more federal dollars than is necessary and that could have something to do with the way he voted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie
    AGAIN I INSIST WITH OR WITHOUT THE FENCE IF WE DON'T FIGHT THE NORTH AMERICA UNION IT WILL NOT HELP.
    ILLEGALS WILL BE BACK .THEY ARE PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE,NAU,SPP, GLOBALIZATION, ERRADICATION OF THE BORDERS, OUR SOVEREIGNTY.
    yes, CFR is pro NAU, say no to CFR candidates..

    ie. everyone but Paul or Huner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOrwell
    Quote Originally Posted by minnie
    AGAIN I INSIST WITH OR WITHOUT THE FENCE IF WE DON'T FIGHT THE NORTH AMERICA UNION IT WILL NOT HELP.
    ILLEGALS WILL BE BACK .THEY ARE PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE,NAU,SPP, GLOBALIZATION, ERRADICATION OF THE BORDERS, OUR SOVEREIGNTY.
    yes, CFR is pro NAU, say no to CFR candidates..

    ie. everyone but Paul or Huner...
    So you won't be voting in the general election ?

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    I only know my cats, not Aunt Fanny's - but I do know that the stories recently suggest the fence is not doing the job it once did. I believe that to be because those drug and human smugglers know for sure, our BP agents' hands are tied and there will be no reprecussions when they get here.

    There is nothing to suggest that is going to change - not with this present group in charge of the fence.

    On Ron Paul and his ME policy -

    We haven't just been meddling in the ME in the recent past. WE have been over there blowing up things and propping up dispotic, bloody dictators for 50 years.

    I have asked for everyone who feels Paul is wrong to think about this.
    Mexico has sent millions of its poor and criminals here to this country - deliberately. THey have asked them to drain this country of the monies they make. They have lobbied, cajoled and I hesitate to think what else they have done, our lawmakers and President to allow this to happen and even to give freebies and special privileges to the illegals.

    This is no small thing. It has caused the death of Americans, the molestation of children, the maiming of Americans, weakened our healthcare system, our education system, our judicial system. It is putting serious strain on our infrastructure.

    I don't know, but I think we can assume they have funded an encouraged such organizations as LaRaza and LULAC - which are working against America and Americans.

    I think we can assume they probably own some journalists, some lawmakers and bureacrats.

    Now they are actually intereferring in our electorial process - and setting up 'houses' here in America to help the illegals evade immigration.

    They are going to get involved in lawsuits in AZ 'to protect the rights of those illegal employees' there.

    They have protected the drug smugglers bringing in death with their army and have persuaded our government to persecute BP agents trying to stop this. Their army has fired on our BP and border LE officers to protect drug smugglers.

    Do those things make you angry? It does me.

    Those things are happening now - and we see it.

    No suppose we find they actually were arming some of these criminals to cause chaos in this country? Suppose some of these simple, hardworking people were actually Mexcian army?

    Would that make you angry? Angry enough to do something? Then suppose this horror of violence and chaos perpetrated by them had been going on for 50 years resulting the killing and maiming of millions of Americans.

    Would you be angry?

    Our problems in the ME didn't start with the bombing of the Cole or the marine barracks or even with Saddam Hussein - it goes back much farther.

    But for those who don't like his policies - what would be a good policy?
    The one we have isn't working - do we continue doing the same thing that we know doesn't work - or do we think maybe we should stop worrying about the rest of the world and begin worrying about America. If we don't, it won't matter what we do in the ME or anywhere else - we'll be lost.
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    He should be running as an independent.
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    Fence

    For those that doubt the fence...did you see Duncan's fence?

    http://www.gohunter08.com/inner.asp?z=19

    The triple fence is the one I'm talking about.

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    I just watched Ron Paul on Bill Moyers and it was a very good interview

    I really deepy admire Dr. Paul and he is a man of integrity.He was upset that Romeny is being attacked because he is a Mormon and said our first amendment is suppose to protect us from such attacks.Your religion or lack of it has nothing to with being President UNLESS you use it in a negative manner to deny others of their civil rights.

    He also talked about Fox not including him in the debate and has never been given a reason as to why he is being excluded.Even Fox affiliate stations have no idea why he is being excluded.Ron Paul thinks it is because of who owns Fox News and because of his views which are in conflict with the owners of Fox.
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