Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by Dixie

43 pages sounds a bit like a diatribe that would play well to his choir.

His screed is contemptible. Hubris appears to be setting up the good judge for a really bad fall on judicial review. I have never seen anyone in a position of authority so cast aside self-restraint to spew such vile bile.

Wouldn't he have a clue that the Obama usurpation could fail, leaving him holding the bag for a fraud? When the impostor is exposed, Judge Clay Land will be on record for authoring 43 pages of indefensible contempt, his rash summary judgment which turned aside 180 pages of exhibits and evidence from Dr. Taitz.

Not to mention that Judge Clay Land was just wrong, wrong, wrong, and arrogant about it to boot.

He had his opinion prepared on his laptop computer before Maj. Stephan Cook's trial. He appears to have prejudged any and all plaints which Army personnel originate at neighboring Fort Benning, a deployment post for Iraq and Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Originally Posted by Dixie

43 pages sounds a bit like a diatribe that would play well to his choir.

His screed is contemptible. Hubris appears to be setting up the good judge for a really bad fall on judicial review. I have never seen anyone in a position of authority so cast aside self-restraint to spew such vile bile.

Wouldn't he have a clue that the Obama usurpation could fail, leaving him holding the bag for a fraud? When the impostor is exposed, Judge Clay Land will be on record for authoring 43 pages of indefensible contempt, his rash summary judgment which turned aside 180 pages of exhibits and evidence from Dr. Taitz.

Not to mention that Judge Clay Land was just wrong, wrong, wrong, and arrogant about it to boot.

He had his opinion prepared on his laptop computer before Maj. Stephan Cook's trial. He appears to have prejudged any and all plaints which Army personnel originate at neighboring Fort Benning, a deployment post for Iraq and Afghanistan.

When the impostor is exposed, Judge Clay Land will be on record for authoring 43 pages of indefensible contempt, his rash summary judgment which turned aside 180 pages of exhibits and evidence from Dr. Taitz.

I would argue that the imposter has already been exposed. IMO, it is up to the honor of our legal system now to impose the appropriate sentence upon this usurper Barry Soetoro! Our country is in for the fight of it's life.

On CNN, Joy Behar "interviews" Orly Taitz, Esq.. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4889

I don't know whether Dr. Orly Taitz deserves to be commended for suffering being ill-treated and talked-over by Joy Behar on CNN, or to be shown the error of her naîveté for putting herself in the position of being used without being heard.

10 : the number of days that Judge David Carter has had the DoJ motion to dismiss Barnett v. Obama under submission.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

On CNN, Joy Behar "interviews" Orly Taitz, Esq.. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4889

I don't know whether Dr. Orly Taitz deserves to be commended for suffering being ill-treated and talked-over by Joy Behar on CNN, or to be shown the error of her naîveté for putting herself in the position of being used without being heard.

10 : the number of days that Judge David Carter has had the DoJ motion to dismiss Barnett v. Obama under submission.

Minuteman, I only hope that Judge Carter is taking these 10 days to carefully review the facts rather than falling to the fear of ridicule and threat. Surely he is aware of the dangerous repercussions of failing to allow the truth to be revealed.

Just got this in my inbox. You gotta love archived webpages.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406271...ws26060403.htm

This is from Eastern Standard Newspaper in Africa.

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

Dateline: Sunday, June 27, 2004



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Originally Posted by armbruster512

Just got this in my inbox. You gotta love archived webpages.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406271...ws26060403.htm

This is from Eastern Standard Newspaper in Africa.

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

Dateline: Sunday, June 27, 2004

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Thanks, Armbruster. I put a copy of the article up on Scribd.com:
http://tinyurl.com/yfq5898

Obama warns Kenya again
Published on 23/09/2009
By Susan Anyangu

US President Barack Obama has warned Kenya, which he fondly refers to as the land of his grandfathers, that there would be no retreat on the road to a new constitution.

His government also declared its eye is on Kenya, especially on how the country tackles corruption and impunity.

US Ambassador to Kenya Michael Ranneberger also warned Washington will get tough on Kenya in the next few weeks. He delivered Obama’s caution that there will be no pulling out of the road to a new constitution to avoid recurrence of post-election violence in 2012.

Rest of the article:
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePa ... 610&cid=4&

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Interesting to note that our usurper president Obama is totally destroying our own Constitution, and yet is deeply involved in Kenya's constitution development.

Am I missing something, or is this just another smoking gun showing what divided loyalties will do when found in a U.S. President?

And he's preaching to Kenyans about corruption. Hah! What a roaring hypocrite.

We need to get rid of this guy asap. He's NOT an American.

It is interesting what you can learn from a press that is not against you knowing and understanding politically incorrect information.

I'll put a copy of this up on Scribd if I can't find a copy of the whole paper.

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Mazrui on President Barack Obama’s triple heritage

Published on 07/06/2009
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePa ... id=289&a=1

By Prof Ali Mazrui

The 44th President of the United States has a triple ancestral heritage. Obama is descended from Africans, from Muslims and from mainstream Americans. In the bid to be elected President of the US, Barack Obama emphasised his affinity with mainstream Americans, and underplayed his African and his Muslim ancestry.

There are great expectations of his presidency among Muslims and people of African descent, both within the United States and worldwide.

The basis of such expectations have to rely on three kinds of credentials Obama may have. One set of credentials on which we would base our expectations are existential credentials concerning Obama’s own identity and his personal character and attributes. Obama’s intelligence, his social and political skills and his personal style of leadership are, of course, part and parcel of the man.

Also existential is his African and Muslim ancestry. He is the first United States’ president whose father was born a Muslim and whose grandfather was, by all accounts, devout in the faith. He is the first President none of whose names were either European or Jewish. His first name was based on the Swahili name Baraka (blessing), his second name Hussein is Arabo-Muslim, and his family name Obama is indisputably Luo from Kenya. It is to his credit that he never tried to suppress his middle name Hussein, which was politically the most risky in the United States.

He is also the first United States’ President whose childhood education was partly in a Muslim country, indeed, within the most populous Muslim society in the world, Indonesia.

Obama’s childhood was also in Hawaii, arguably the most multicultural part of the United States.

Obama probably learnt more about Islam from his Indonesian stepfather (the mother’s second husband) than from his biological Kenyan father.

His school in Indonesia was secular and not a traditional madrasa. But his fellow students were overwhelmingly Muslim, as were indeed the majority of his instructors. He was exposed to Islam in the human composition of the school even if not necessarily in the syllabus and the curriculum.

A President in Action

Next to these existential criteria for basing our expectations of the Obama presidency are the credentials of performance itself. Within his first one hundred days Obama made no spectacular move to either Africa or Black America apart from First Lady Michelle’s visits to black schools and to places which help to feed the poor and the homeless of Washington, DC. Obama had also expressed concern about the crisis of Darfur in the Sudan and tried to have an input in the quest for solving the problem.

But although his Afro-oriented gestures in his first one hundred days were modest, Obama’s moves towards the Muslim world were more substantial. His first major television interview for foreign audiences was with Arabiya television network addressed to the Arab world. He also addressed the people of Iran on their national day, extending America’s hand of goodwill if Iran would "unclench its own fist" towards America.

For the Arab-Israeli conflict President Obama appointed as his Envoy the former majority leader in the US Senate, George Mitchell, an experienced mediator and negotiator who had successfully mediated the Good Friday Agreement for Northern Ireland in 1998.

Unlike President Bill Clinton who disproportionately entrusted the Arab-Israeli dispute to American Jews to handle, Senator George Mitchell has Lebanese, as well as Irish ancestry.

Obama also appointed Richard Holbrook, another very experienced and distinguished mediator, as special envoy for both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Obama also invited the Presidents of both Afghanistan and Pakistan to join him at the White House early in May 2009 for more fundamental evaluation of their joint policies towards the Taliban insurgents in both countries and towards general struggle against Muslim extremists at large.

Although the Government of Israel which came to power early this year was at best lukewarm about a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian problem, the Obama Administration has emphasised to both the Israelis and the Arabs that a two-state solution is still the policy of the United States. Vice-President Joseph Biden has also emphasised that two-state approach to Jewish audiences within the United States.

Obama’s policy towards Africa has been less noteworthy than his moves towards the Muslim world. The President may feel inhibited precisely because his father was not only an African but also a citizen of an African country. Obama may be cautious not to betray either racial nepotism or a manifest bias towards Africa. When faced with a dilemma between helping Kenya and helping Bangladesh, Obama may feel compelled to help Bangladesh as a poorer and more deserving supplicant for American aid.

The point has been raised whether Africa on its own would have been better off if Hillary Clinton had been elected President of the United States instead of Barack Obama.

Global Africa and Global Ummah

Obama’s Africa policy may become more active in a positive sense in the months and years ahead. But on the evidence so far it does seem credible that the African continent itself would have been better off if Hillary Clinton had become President of the United States.

On the other hand, if we examine the Black world as a whole instead of just the African continent, Obama’s election to the Presidency of the United States has set a remarkable precedent in upward political mobility. The United States is only the first white majority country to have elected a man of colour to its highest office in the land. This American precedent may lead on to the election of a Black Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, a Black President of France, and even a Black Chancellor of Germany before the end of this twenty-first century. A Somali Prime Minister of Italy in another 50 years is no longer inconceivable. After all, the United States has had a Luo President sooner than has Kenya, which has a population of several million Luo.

It is also not often realised that Obama is not only the most powerful Black man in world politics today, but the most powerful man of colour in the history of civilization. As we have mentioned before, Obama is more powerful than the Pharaoh who forced Moses out of Egypt, more powerful than the Ethiopian Emperor who defeated the Italians in 1896, more powerful than Shaka Zulu who ‘stands out as the greatest of them all and his legend has captured the imagination of both European and African writers, inspiring novels, biographies, and historical studies in several tongues.

When we say Obama is more powerful than Shaka Zulu, Ramses II of Egypt, and Menelik II of Ethiopia, we do not mean Obama is greater than any of them. We do not know yet how great Barack Obama is likely to be.

What we do know is that he is Commander in Chief of US forces, which are greater than all the African armies in history added together. Currently it is estimated that the United States has one thousand (yes, 1000) military bases overseas.

In sheer power, there is therefore no doubt that Barack Obama is in a class by himself among Black leaders in the history of civilisation. But what about Obama’s impact upon African Americans?

Black voters in the United States voted for Obama in percentages of over 90 per cent — after some hesitation in the early stages of his primary campaign for the presidency. But in the course of his first 100 days there was some Black disenchantment because Obama was perceived as being in denial about the importance of such African American concerns as affirmative action and reparations for past injustices. At African American public meetings to grade Obama’s performance during those 100 days, some graded him as low as C-. Others gave him an Incomplete.

But in fairness to President Obama some of his most important policies were bound to benefit millions of African Americans, although the policies were not specifically focused on African Americans. His aspiration to make health service as affordable and universal as possible was bound to benefit hundreds of thousands of uninsured African Americans. His plan to try and make college education more affordable was also bound to benefit generations of young Blacks if Obama succeeded. Indeed, many of these policies were likely to yield greater benefits to African Americans than even affirmative action — which in the past had often benefited more white women than Black men.

With regard to health policies affecting the African continent, Obama has a tough act to follow when compared with George W Bush. President Bush persuaded Congress to allocate billions of dollars to combat HIV-Aids in Africa and the Caribbean countries.

Bush’s strategy against HIV-AIids abroad was arguably his most enlightened policy, though his accompanying condition of sexual abstinence was naive and often honoured more in the breach than the observance.

Religion and Voting Behaviour

In our analysis we have now transitioned from Obama’s credentials of performance to his credentials of pledges. The pursuit of affordable health and affordable education are pledges in the process of implementation. Also a pledge in the process of implementation is Obama’s campaign promise of giving a tax cut of some kind to about 90 per cent of the working population. Again beneficiaries of this pledge are bound to include millions of African Americans, as well as some of the six million Muslims who are United States’ citizens.

In the campaign of 2008 neither the Republicans nor the Democrats courted the Muslim vote overtly. On the contrary, the Obama campaign was sensitive to the erroneous charge that he was a closet Muslim. Muslims were particularly offended when Obama’s organisers removed Muslim women wearing the hijab from proximity to Barack Obama at a rally when a lot of cameras were targeting the candidate.

Muslims also complained that although Obama was prepared to be seen at Christian and Jewish places of worship, he very carefully avoided visiting a mosque during the campaign. After all, even President George W. Bush had visited a mosque.

Muslim defenders of Barack Obama felt that the choice before Muslim voters was between a Muslim-friendly candidate Barack Obama and a future Muslim-friendly President Obama in the White House. The Muslim voters could not have both.

Obama had to avoid playing the Muslim card when he was campaigning. But with the first 100 days as President, Obama was saying that he had Muslim relatives. He had also raised the issue of US relations with the Muslim world to a high level of urgency.

He had pledged to end the war in Iraq. He had pledged to support the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state alongside Israel. He had pledged to combine military action in Afghanistan and Pakistan with considerable American resources for nation-building and economic development. Many of these pledges became explicit after Obama had been elected rather than promises in his campaign. His performance beyond the first 100 days is still awaited with bated suspense. In conclusion, Obama’s existential assets of Africanity, Muslim ancestry and personal skills are potentially assets for his policies towards the Muslim world and for his impact upon the Black world. Obama is likely to be more cautious in his policies towards the African continent to avoid the charge of ancestral bias and racial partisanship. But his election to the highest office of the most powerful country in the world may have broken the glass ceiling in other white majority countries thousands of miles away from the shores of the United States.

— This is an edited version of a paper presented by Prof Ali Mazrui and other professors at a seminar at the International Institute of Islamic Thought, Washington DC, on April 17

The Orange County register
Friday, October 16, 2009

Lawyer Orly Taitz tries patience of federal court

Obama birthplace lawyer can be handful for the judges hearing her cases.

Martin Wisckol
Columnist: The Buzz
The Orange County Register
mwisckol@ocregister.com

U.S. District Judge David O. Carter has been presiding patiently over Mission Viejo lawyer Orly Taitz's effort to oust Barack Obama from the presidency on the allegation that he was born in Kenya.

Carter's kept his cool while Taitz failed to serve Obama's lawyer with her complaint, attempted (and failed) to dismiss two of her clients, attempted (and failed) to have a magistrate judge removed, and attempted (and failed) to have a witness testify during an administrative hearing.

She also had 40 to 100 of her supporters call Carter's Santa Ana office daily to encourage him to rule in their favor. Carter responded by simply telling Taitz to knock it off.

But even judges can run out of patience, as U.S. District Judge Clay D. Land demonstrated with Tuesday's $20,000 fine of Taitz for misconduct, issued along with a scathing, 43-page sanction.

In his order, Land detailed the limits to which his patience had been stretched in a similar Obama-birthplace suit filed by Taitz in Georgia. Land noted that Taitz failed to follow basic court procedure, and that he'd overhauled his court's schedule to accommodate Taitz.

In return, Land wrote, Taitz used the courtroom to grandstand for the press, and repeatedly filed frivolous motions.

"Rather than assert legitimate legal arguments, counsel chose to accuse the Court of treason and of being controlled by the 'Obama machine.' She had no facts to support her claims - but her diatribe would play well to her choir," Land wrote.

In a footnote, Land explained that he'd been contacted by one of Taitz's supporters, who "challenged the undersigned (Land) to a 'round of fisticuffs on the Courthouse Square,' (and) asserted that the President is not human."

Fighting the regime

The fine got Taitz even more steamed, and she's vowed to appeal it. Land, she said, was in the pocket of the "oppressive" Obama Administration.

"He's scared to go against the regime," she said. "He's trying to intimidate me and other lawyers to stay away from this issue."

Among other things, Land said he threw out Taitz's case because the constitution dictates that it's Congress' job to determine whether the president meets the qualifications to hold office. Land goes on to cite several circumstances to support the idea that the issue should not be decided by the courts.

"Perhaps an eccentric citizen has become convinced that the President is an alien from Mars, and the courts should order DNA testing to enforce the constitution," Land wrote sarcastically, then added the footnote quoted above.

Santa Ana's Judge Carter is considering the same constitutional issue in a motion to dismiss, which he heard arguments for on Oct. 5. Among those predicting dismissal is the conservative dean of the Chapman School of Law, John Eastman, who remains unconvinced that Obama's birth documents are valid but believes it's a matter for Congress, not the courts.

The basic idea is that interpretation of the qualifications for the presidency is a political – rather than legal – issue.

"It's called the political-question doctrine," said Eastman, who specializes in constitutional law. "The regulation of qualifications are assigned to Congress."

Contact the writer: 714-285-2867
e-mail: mwisckol@ocregister.com

Land doesn't impress me as a judge who exercises professional conduct. It seems apparent from his statements.