Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Since the doubters will not accept his birth certificate, or the assurances of the State of Hawaii that it is valid, what document would you accept?

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

A third option stands a better chance of actually being done.[/size]

Deem centralized government, a.k.a. Washington, D.C., a cancer and extract it.

Yeah, I've been thinking we should move the nation's capital to Colorado, Oklahoma, or maybe Texas, and use Washington as the nation's museum.

Nuke Dump would be better!!!


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Originally Posted by Bettybb

Since the doubters will not accept his birth certificate, or the assurances of the State of Hawaii that it is valid, what document would you accept?

There has been NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE PRESENTED OR SHOWN!!! I will accept a real varified long form doctor signed BC.

Only a COLB that also has not been legaly varified but even if true is not a legal BC. Only words of "I have seen it" have come from Hawaii.

By current law...Obama is not eligible. He is also a Muslim and that bothers me more than the usurpation of eligibility.

[quote=MinutemanCDC_SC]JUST SPECULATION . . .

but interesting nonetheless.

Originally Posted by "At forums.hannity.com, Elsalouise":dqxyy78a

He won't release his records because they would show that he was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1959... days before Hawaii became a state. Obama says he was 10 when he watched the astronauts splash down after the moon landing. That happened in 1969. His SUPPORTERS say he lied when he wrote that, because he was in Jakarta until he was 10. He left Jakarta in June of his 10th year, plenty of time to get to Hawaii to see the astronauts land in July. He says his father left him and his mother when he was 2. His father graduated from the University of Hawaii in 1962, just shy of his 3rd birthday, if his birthdate is 1959. But if his birthdate is 1961, he is not even a year old! Who should you believe? I say, believe Obama himself!

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Won't this all be fun to hear in a trier of fact?

Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist

Originally Posted by Bettybb

Since the doubters will not accept his birth certificate, or the assurances of the State of Hawaii that it is valid, what document would you accept?

There has been NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE PRESENTED OR SHOWN!!! I will accept a real varified long form doctor signed BC.

Only a COLB that also has not been legaly varified but even if true is not a legal BC. Only words of "I have seen it" have come from Hawaii.

By current law...Obama is not eligible. He is also a Muslim and that bothers me more than the usurpation of eligibility.

Does what you call a long form birth certificate exist in Hawaii as distinct from the certification of birth. Also, if it is, doesn't the state of Hawaii have to check it before issuing the certification of live birth?

If you are born in the USA, you are eligible.

Obama is a Christian, attended that foul evangelical church. His half sister is a Muslim.

I must say that I don't think highly of the Islamic faith myself.

Originally Posted by Bettybb

Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist

Originally Posted by Bettybb

Since the doubters will not accept his birth certificate, or the assurances of the State of Hawaii that it is valid, what document would you accept?

There has been NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE PRESENTED OR SHOWN!!! I will accept a real varified long form doctor signed BC.

Only a COLB that also has not been legaly varified but even if true is not a legal BC. Only words of "I have seen it" have come from Hawaii.

By current law...Obama is not eligible. He is also a Muslim and that bothers me more than the usurpation of eligibility.

Does what you call a long form birth certificate exist in Hawaii as distinct from the certification of birth. Also, if it is, doesn't the state of Hawaii have to check it before issuing the certification of live birth?

If you are born in the USA, you are eligible.

Obama is a Christian, attended that foul evangelical church. His half sister is a Muslim.

I must say that I don't think highly of the Islamic faith myself.

Yes...the long forms are standard for every State including Hawaii. No...you do not have to be born there to get a COLB. And no...a long form...it does not exist for Obama or they would have shown it.

No...born in the USA does not qualify you for POTUS or VP. "Natural born" does. Other office can be held by any and all forms of citizenry. Only POTUS and VP hold this restriction...for obvious reasons.

Obama is a Muslim...make no mistake of his allegiance. Any Christian affiliation is for political reasons/motivation, manipulation and self promoting agenda. Obama will turn on America every chance he gets.

A quick glace through some of the pages in this string has about as much information as can be found on the Internet about eligibility.

Originally Posted by Bettybb

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Originally Posted by Bettybb

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Originally Posted by Bettybb

Highlander Juan,

I have never posted on the Daily Kos, or Huffington Post. I am a member of MoveOn. I am a Democrat who is against amnesty.

That does not give you the right to call me names.

OK. So your initial comments were on the knowledgeable and disingenuous side. I wasn't too far off course, was I.

For the record, I said:

1. Poppycock and balderdash! No name calling there. Poppycock (n. Senseless talk; nonsense) and Balderdash (n. Nonsense, stupid or illogical talk; senseless rubbish) are simply my message to you that the ideas seem to convey trivial nonsense.

2. That kind of thinking... No name calling there.

3. I can't believe that anyone alive... No name calling there, just my personal opinion.

It has been rumored that there are no more Democrats left; that every Democrat is now a socialist. Is that true?

Apology accepted.

None was given.

Sure it was... you deleted all the insults!

I read the post...he deleted nothing... I see the laughing face and I do not consider accusations like this funny. It has happened to me before where I was accused of changing a post...I had not.

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Originally Posted by Bettybb

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Originally Posted by Bettybb

Obama was born in Hawaii. The State of Hawaii has confirmed it. The birth certificate has been produced. Two newspapers at the time of his birth announced it. You are not going to tell me those two inserts into 40 year old records newspapers were fabricated!

The real story is Bush's "missing" military records.


And what can I say, America is far, far better off, and far safer under Obama than we were under Bush.

Gosh Bettybb, uh, where to begin. You've landed in a hornets nest! It's apparent that you haven't followed or researched the thousands of pages of evidence, documents, court cases, etc. on this thread and other sites. Rather than attempt to educate you on this subject (there are many here MUCH more literate on this subject than me), I'll just provide one bit among many of factual, verifiable evidence. Obama's father was a British subject when Obama (Barry Soetoro) was born. This precluded him from being constitutionally qualified for the office of President. I can't blame you for your posting. It's a standard response from many of those out there who drank the kool-aid and voted for him.

If that is the case, file a court case! I believe that has been done and it was summarily thrown out.

Bettybb, believe it or not, I don't want to believe that our elected President
is constitutionally ineligible. I spent HOURS and HOURS studying the available evidence, reading the news articles, studying the BC issue, etc. trying to debunk the whole deal that Obama may not be eligible. I, and most others here are not prone to fall into conspiracy theories and I always question what I read. However, I have come to the conclusion that the evidence that Obama was illegally sworn into office is STUNNING and OVERWHELMING. The evidence is available for all to see. Obama by his OWN words admitted during his Senate days that he was ineligible for the office of POTUS. The newspaper posting is in this thread if you care to research. There are excerpts from Kenyan newspapers and others stating that Obama was Kenyan born. This isn't hearsay, this is fact. Yes, many people that voted for Obama and "Hope and Change" don't want to even consider the fact that their chosen candidate may be a usurper to the office. I didn't vote for him but like you, I understand how you might feel betrayed if you found out the truth. I urge you to just remember that we are all Americans and we should ALL believe in the rule of law. We should ALL want justice to be served no matter the bitter consequences. Without law we are nothing.

I think the hard line fact is that the Obamabots really don't care!!! And they feel that anyone that does care is a racist!

The Constitution is simply not understood anymore. The power and importance of it. Until the vast majority of America wakes up and understands that this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with anything other than the rule of law..."the peoples law" this issue will be a race card issue.

I wish it were not so...it is yet another card extremely well played...to destroy the Constitution to help pave the path to socialistic agenda by this current administration...in that I give them and Polosi a standing ovation.

The covert planing and out right brilliance of the plan is a marvel of political manipulation and will be recorded as such in the history books..after the trials are over!

Brilliant...absolute brilliant...

I think one of the problems is that up until the beginning of the last century, law students were taught to weigh everything against the constitution. At the beginning of the last century, the law schools changed how they taught lawyers and now teach them to weigh everything against case law. In most law schools including Harvard, very little time is even spent teaching about that document.