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07-06-2006, 02:34 PM #161Do you think our Creator might have given us a mind and the will to "stand up" to corrupt governments, DD ? Or did he just mean for the world to constantly be "on the run" ?Like I said.....this land that was blessed by our Creator was intended to be a beacon for those who need to flee corrupt gov't. Just like those who came on "Plymouth". I believe this.
When America's government becomes so corrupt due to losing it's status as a land of laws, failure to uphold the constitution, failure of the government to function under the principle of "for the people, by the people", when America is truly no longer a free nation.......to which country then do you suggest that everyone run?
You might ask WHY the people didn't stand up to Parliment when when there was not separation of church and state and why they ran to America? The resistance would have been futile, there were TOO FEW.
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07-06-2006, 03:47 PM #162
Originally Posted by DD
Hey DD,
Sorry for the wait. Certainly would not want you to have to wait for anything.
None of our mods report touching your profile. Perhaps you made the changes by accident as you have easily changed your picture and signature several times in the last few days.
You are violating our rules by not attempting to contact me or an admin or moderator with your question.
You are trying to be insulting and accuse of us things in the open as is your intent.
Since that is your intent here, we could easily assume you scraped your own picture. It's not like you could not have put it back up easily with a few seconds of work.
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07-06-2006, 03:55 PM #163
Oh, hey! Thanks DD. You reminded me of something we have in the closet that I have not utilized in many months.
Here, I've adjusted your profile for you.
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07-06-2006, 04:06 PM #164
Why make the distinction and why should it relate to Hispanics any more than Asians or Europeans?
-JohnB2012
Why make a distinction between legal and illegal immigration? A strange question, especially when the name of this website is considered. I thought this site’s stance was pro-legal immigration and against illegal immigration.
2ndamendsis' post simply makes mention of “Hispanic kids” without distinction of their immigration status. Indeed, he fails to even distinguish between Hispanic citizens and Hispanic residents (legal or illegal).
Now, one would expect that you’d be able to understand the paramount importance of establishing the legal status of an immigrant that is the subject of a discussion on legal and illegal immigration.
and why should it relate to Hispanics any more than Asians or Europeans?
- JohnB2012
I have no idea, but then I never claimed anything should “relate to Hispanics any more than Asians or Europeans.”
Most illegal Hispanics don't know or know very little English. They usually only learn enough English to get by with their job or to do shopping.
-JohnB2012
Perhaps, it would help your base knowledge to read the link I provided.
Here it is again:
No, I certainly didn't "fail to make any distinction" as it's not necessary.
-2ndamendsis
Certainly, you failed to make the distinction, and you just admitted so. You claim that a distinction between legal and illegal Hispanic immigrants is “not necessary” to a discussion about illegal immigration; a strange position to take, in my opinion.
All IMMIGRANTS are LEGAL
-2ndamendsis
Untrue, in fact, some media outlets have reported that there are about 12 million illegal immigrants living within the U.S.
However, I certainly care who the ILLEGALS are. Don't you?
-2ndamendsis
If by “illegal” you are referring to all individuals who fail to abide by the established law, yes. Yes, I do care who they are.
but we have millions of ignorant, law breaking ILLEGALS floating around our country.
-2ndamendsis
Well we are all ignorant of one thing or another, as I have repeatedly pointed out.
Oh my goodness, JOHN Is this one of those "brown pride" nuts?
-2ndamendsis
You see, you do insult, and in a blatant manner.
No wonder all the mindless insults to our folks yet absolutely NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE.
-2ndamendsis
One has to wonder at the mind that claims to be pro-education while bemoaning an effort to alleviate obvious ignorance.
Now that's what I call substance and pertinent information!
-2ndamendsis
Well, it’s not on par with the usage of emotioncons, but it is a start, eh?
Typical troll behavior to come on the board and pick on spelling and insinuate racism.
-ALIPAC
What seems typical, is the desire among some to be offended by the helpful and sincere efforts of a political opponent.
Your spelling stinks and baseless accusations 'you hate Hispanics' only serve as attempts to lower or derail the debate
-ALIPAC
Who wrote “your spelling stinks” and “you hate Hispanics?” I merely pointed out that it was 2ndamendsis who brought up Hispanic immigrants, but failed to distinguish between legal and illegal Hispanic immigrants. If you conclude that is evidence of “lowering” or derailing a debate, then you might want to reconsider your standards of quality debating.
After all, who would want to be a racist with bad grammar?
- ALIPAC
I’d hope no one, but that doesn’t mean they do not exist. I have seen them, and lately, I’ve seen a lot of them.
Guess what. It's not working. Your tactic and comments are typical and if you race bait on our boards we send you to the trash heap.
-ALIPAC
If you feel you are unable to contend, then do what you do best.
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07-06-2006, 04:15 PM #165
Listen up.
There is little need to consider yourself a contender.
If you are going to lie, try not to lie in the same sentence.
"What seems typical, is the desire among some to be offended by the helpful and sincere efforts of a political opponent. "
Since when has a political opponent been either sincere or intentionally helpful to their opposition?
Do you actually believe these things when you type them or do you just hope others will have a lapse of all common sense when they read them?
Yes, we forgot that on top of picking on spelling and making false charged accusations of racism, you can also pick on the semantics of words used.
Everyone, we have discussed this a million times. Yes, always qualify your statements when making any comment regarding race or ethnicity.
Regardless of what you meant or what you really feel about things an Open Borders advocate like Observer will come along and use your words as a weapon claiming that all you care about is negated because you did not think about how your words could be twisted or interpreted.
Happy now Observer? Do you have anything whatsoever of any substance regarding illegal immigration to offer to these discussions or are you sticking to you the racists with spelling problems attack?
It is so nice to have someone that is both sincere and helpful as they attack. (sarc)
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07-06-2006, 04:21 PM #166
Personally, I think trolls are very good for our cause. I have NEVER seen a troll help their pro-illegal cause and in fact EVERY SINGLE time they end up strengthening our cause because they force us to reiterate the facts and make our points again. Often times we make those points even more clearly than before. It only makes sense that the more practice we have the better we get at "stating the facts and the truth" more clearly.
THAT CAN ONLY BE GOOD FOR US.
The only thing I do believe they accomplish doing is "wasting our time" and that's not good. That's when I choose to ignore them. Usually they get aggravated start breaking the rules to "get our attention" (the Kim Jung Il tactic) and then they are banned, it's over until a week or so later and we start the cycle over with a new troll.
Usually an onslaught of trolls indicates the opposition is in a state of distress and desparate. This is an important observation I've made about trolls and a very positive sign.
Forgive me for being rude, Observer. Welcome to ALIPAC.
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07-06-2006, 04:28 PM #167
ALIPAC
Oh, yes, that is another positive effect that trolls have on US. They teach us how to choose our words carefully and to phrase our comments in a very clear and precise manner so as to be sure that our message to America and to our elected officials is CLEAR. That's good. Yes. That helps us very much. Thank you, for pointing that out.Regardless of what you meant or what you really feel about things an Open Borders advocate like Observer will come along and use your words as a weapon claiming that all you care about is negated because you did not think about how your words could be twisted or interpreted.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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07-06-2006, 04:29 PM #168
Your right Legal.
Welcome to ALIPAC DD. Sometimes we play with our trolls before we eat them. You have to remember that this is a fight and we are all here to fight your pro amnesty open borders side.
We should remain polite, but you have to realize that the people here are fighters and they have been and continue to be wronged by what your people are doing.
It's hard for even me not to use foul language when I have to deal with someone that encourages the Brown Berets to move into position on the streets against Americans.
Sometimes we have a little fun with things and play with our opposition.
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07-06-2006, 04:37 PM #169
Since when has a political opponent been either sincere or intentionally helpful to their opposition?
- ALIPAC
I did offer my guidance to ncm. Haven’t you been paying attention?
Do you actually believe these things when you type them or do you just hope others will have a lapse of all common sense when they read them?
-ALIPAC
Well judging from a few of the posts I have read here, I do not have to “hope for a lapse of all common sense.”
Yes, we forgot that on top of picking on spelling and making false charged accusations of racism
-ALIPAC
Apparently you consider asking for clarification of legal status of an immigrant to be tantamount to “charging” one with racism in discussion over illegal immigration. Amazing!
Everyone, we have discussed this a million times. Yes, always qualify your statements when making any comment regarding race or ethnicity.
-ALIPAC
This paragraph is unclear. What are trying to convey, exactly?
Happy now Observer?
-ALIPAC
Oh jes, just as I was prior to reading your question. How about you, are you happy?
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Forgive me for being rude, Observer.
-LegalUSCitizen
Sure, you are forgiven.
It's hard for even me not to use foul language when I have to deal with someone that encourages the Brown Berets to move into position on the streets against Americans.
-ALIPAC
Well, we all here can thank our lucky stars that you have managed to arrest your violent tendencies.
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07-06-2006, 05:37 PM #170
So Observer, besides being pedantic and pointing out how a poster here forgot to put an apostrophe where he or she should have, picking some other nit, or making ad hominem attacks, perhaps you'd like to share with us why you support people breaking the immigration laws of our nation and why you think we should have no borders?
All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke


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