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    I know, Digger, but the point is Jose made that comment and years later, he was rewarded by La Raza with that stupid macho award when they fully knew his background. They supported his racist views by giving him that award.
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    When we were in the Navy, Viet Nam Era, we couldn't get clearances if we belonged to certain organizations, the John Birch Society being one of them. We didn't know anything about them. The word was that they were racist. Since I started researching the NAU, they've cropped up and I don't see racism, I see a fight against the NAU from the beginning. So I guess the John Birch Society was right all along.

    Well, I can't see the post now... maybe it was jamessw69 or something like that. I like your letter. Do you mind if I use it also to send to congressmen?
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    It was jamesw62. Sorry.
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    The John Birch Society is anti-totalitarian, particularly anti-Socialist, anti-Communist, anti-Fascist and ultra-Libertarian. It strenuously defends what it sees as the original intention of the U.S. Constitution, rooted in Judeo-Christian principles. It idealizes the Founding Fathers as patriots anti-Communists. The John Birch Society opposes what it describes as collectivism, which in its view includes wealth redistribution, economic interventionism, Socialism, Communism, and Fascism. The John Birch Society believes that cabals and conspiracies throughout the world have significantly shaped history, and it seeks to expose and eliminate their claimed control in government in the modern era. It has subsequently been labeled "conspiracist" and has become isolated from many other conservative groups.[citation needed]

    During the 1960s, The John Birch Society opposed aspects of the Civil Rights Movement because of concerns that the movement had a number of Communists in important positions and because of the the fact that it was backed and supported by the American Communist Party. The John Birch Society opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act in the belief that it was in violation of the 10th Amendment to the United States Constitution and overstepped the rights of individual states to make laws regarding Civil Rights.[citation needed]

    Finally, The John Birch Society is against a unified world government and has an illegal immigration reduction view on immigration reform. It has been a major opponent of the United Nations, NAFTA, CAFTA, and the FTAA, and other free-trade agreements with other nations, believing them to be destructive to American principles, the economy, freedom and national sovereignty.[citation needed]

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    I've always known that the John Birth Society was an anti-communist organization, but wasn't sure how to expalin it. Here are their "core values" as listed by wikipedia.

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    zeezil and CitizenJustice, thanks for your research! Awesome reading.

    I am not a member of the JBS, but I support their illegal immigration position.
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    Thanks zeezil. These same three latino activists also all accused me of being a racist for opposing illegal immigration, amnesty etc. They were active in the immigrant's rights movement (read illegal immigrant's rights) in Long Beach, CA (another place I don't miss living in).

    I wasn't accusing the John Birch society of being racist, I was just curious as to why they have been labelled as such.

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    I've heard the John Birch society is racist -- at least according to some latino activists
    I think the key phrase here is "according to some latino activists"
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    The John Birch Society has a biweekly publication called The New American. It is a great magazine. I have learned lot from reading it especially about the Constitution. Which my public school education did a poor job of doing. I regret that my parents did not make enough money to put my siblings and myself in a good private school. So now it is up to me to educate myself in the things that the public school failed in. My teenage sons know so much more than I did at their age. And no they do not go to public school.

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    Ok - Done!
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    Okay, Here is a reply from my other Senator, and the man who wants to be president Obama;
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    From: senator_obama@obama.senate.gov
    Subject: Message from Senator Barack Obama
    Date: Sep 12 2007 12:35p
    To: <xxxxx@xxxx.com>


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    Dear Xxxxxxx:

    Thank you for writing to express your opposition to the Hope Fund Act of 2007 (H.R. 1999). I appreciate hearing from you about this issue.

    H.R. 1999 would authorize funding for the National Council of La Raza for community development and affordable housing projects. Local non-profit organizations would conduct this work in low-income or moderate-income areas. This bill has not been introduced in the Senate, but you may be certain that I will keep your views in mind should the Senate have the opportunity to consider similar legislation.

    With regard to the broader debate on immigration reform, unchecked unauthorized immigration unquestionably is having significant adverse effects on American workers and on some of our communities’ health and education infrastructure. The challenge facing President Bush and Congress is how to stop the flow of immigrants coming illegally across our borders and deal with those who are already living and working in this country illegally.Â

    The Senate is currently considering immigration reform legislation authored by Senators Kennedy (D-MA) and Kyl (R-AZ) and supported by President Bush. This bill would tighten border security, increase enforcement against employers who hire illegal workers, and establish a process by which undocumented workers and their families can earn citizenship after paying fines and learning English. This latter provision is for those who may have entered the United States illegally but are now contributing and responsible members of society. Furthermore the bill would create a temporary program for foreign workers who must return to their homeland after a specified period of time.

    The Senate is expected to debate the Kennedy/Kyl immigration reform bill through early June. Many amendments to the bill will be considered, and the underlying legislation could change dramatically. I will be following these deliberations closely.

    The most controversial elements of the Kennedy/Kyl bill is its path to citizenship and the new point system it proposes for future immigration. I understand the strong feeling within Illinois that undocumented immigrants should not be rewarded for flouting U.S. law. And I appreciate that many Americans feel we should just seal our borders and deport undocumented workers currently living in the country. However, it is significant that the Department of Homeland Security recognizes that identifying and deporting 12 million undocumented workers currently working in this country would be both difficult logistically and disruptive to the American economy. Further, I am concerned with the proposed change under a new points system to reduce the emphasis we place on uniting families in our immigration system. Â

    I concur with President Bush's statement:


    Some in this country argue that the solution is to deport every illegal immigrant, and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise, nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border. There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant, and a program of mass deportation. That middle ground recognizes there are differences between an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently, and someone who has worked here for many years, and has a home, a family, and an otherwise clean record.

    Again, thank you for contacting me.

    Sincerely,

    Barack Obama
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    Done - but the senators and reps from CA seem to respond only to those with hispanic surnames...
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