Thread: Is Obama our best hope for fighting illegal immigration?

Originally Posted by Shad

What we need in November is.

None of the Above....on the ballots!
We don't have a real choice between these three. They are all the same.

I second that!!!!!!

Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama instead of Hillary so do I need to say more ?

USPatriot, You just hit the nail right on the head! Ofcourse that nail was the last nail on the lid of the coffin, right?

Florgal its interesting that you mention the out-sourcing to be the death of middle Americans. Newt Gingrich just stated in a new workshop video how Detroit Michigan has changed. It was out-sourcing and the reason for the out-sourcing. Very interesting. He gave information on how it works because of the corporate taxes on American businesses.

Originally Posted by Gogo

Florgal its interesting that you mention the out-sourcing to be the death of middle Americans. Newt Gingrich just stated in a new workshop video how Detroit Michigan has changed. It was out-sourcing and the reason for the out-sourcing. Very interesting. He gave information on how it works because of the corporate taxes on American businesses.

Corporate taxation is a major part of it, for sure. We can also add environmental standards to the list of reasons/excuses for outsourcing. China, for instance, has an extremely high pollution rate. The air is so bad there that many who would have participated in the Olympics won't be doing so because they can't breathe there! And we've all heard about the water nightmare, the contamination, rationing, etc... Yes, a lot of the problem is overpopulation, but a major contributiong factor is industry. Much of that industry USED to be located in the United States and under more strict environmental standards. Of course the ultra cheap labor in China, Mexico and other parts of the world is a bonus for corporate 'not- so- America', too.

I think we can all understand the actions of corporate America and outsourcing from the 'PROFIT' standpoint. It's all win-win for big business. But a moral line was crossed. At the onset, foresight was lacking, non-existent or completely ignored by big business and those who allowed, in fact promoted, the outsourcing of American jobs to foreign nations. I find it hard to believe that any one of 'them' took into account the severity of damage their actions would cause this country, our people. There comes a time when one should ask ones self, "Is this the RIGHT thing to do? Should profit and greed supercede patriotism and sovreignty?"

Obama promised the Latino groups here in Iowa that he would guarantee amnesty within the first 120 days. Clinton was booed when she would only promise to do her best. This has been reported many times. He repeated the promise in Cali and Nevada. How could anyone consider Obama as an option based on immigration?

The other reasons not to vote Obama are obvious as well.

This thread was a joke right??

Obama does NOT want any type of fence.

No way. Obama is a extreme liberal who wants to raise taxes, keep the borders open and will procede to divide the United States.

An extreme left liberal. NO.

I was surprised to see a post with this title at ALIPAC.

Obama has the worst stances and record on illegal immigration out of the three candidates.

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Originally Posted by 1_paint

Obama promised the Latino groups here in Iowa that he would guarantee amnesty within the first 120 days. Clinton was booed when she would only promise to do her best. This has been reported many times. He repeated the promise in Cali and Nevada. How could anyone consider Obama as an option based on immigration?

The other reasons not to vote Obama are obvious as well.

How can he make that kind of a promise when it must pass Congress first? At least Clinton is being more honest. All either of them can do is try.