Thread: Is Obama our best hope for fighting illegal immigration?

Originally Posted by ourcountrynottheirs

I was once a supporter of Obama until he started insulting American citizens who are against illegal immigration. If elected, I believe he will do everything in his power to further the OBL cause.

I heard Juan William of NPR and Newt Gingrich bring up some very interesting questions about his speech. Juan was very disturb that he used his grandmother as some analogy to equate her comments to racists and lies that the Rev. Wright has used. As a black man he was appalled.

Here he goes again with his flip flopping. First he said he was not at church when Wright said these things. Well Wright says them all the time. Now it is said he was in church, but does not agree with all that is said -OK I can buy that.

But he has for 20 years attended this hate mongering church. Wright has been his personal spiritual advisor. This church supports Muslims of questionable loyalties and holds them up like saviors and role models. Fairy Con and Malcolm X are not the kind of "heroes" I find positive and useful. This church is a divisive political machine.

Is he white or black or biracial. I don't care except He uses the one that is convenient at the time. He makes excuses on why blacks can talk with hate rhetoric, while cleverly still putting the blame on white America, but in the next breath says move "ahead". He is a race baiter, when it suits him.


His business dealings and political pandering with Chicago Thugs is disturbing.

His legislation hurts Americans at home and their individual rights, while supporting and giving money to Muslim Extremist countries. Did his muslim loving church give him this idea? Where is the money going to come from??


He is going to grant amnesty and encourage more illegals the minute he gets a chance. This is not what America needs at this time. Enough are already here. Americans need jobs. Americans need the benefits illegals are taking. We can't afford any more crime connected with illegals. We can't afford medical care for illegals.

The guy is out of touch with middle class America, and will bury us further with his special brand of Socialism.

HE HAS NOT SHOWN ONE BIT OF SENATORIAL EXPERIENCE, CAREER EXPERIENCE or LIFE EXPERIENCE that qualifies him to be President of the USA. Not a bit. And he did nothing with his Foreign relations committee and voted "PRESENT" just a little too much for my taste.

I don't care about his race, his books on his Daddy (I think he has some major mental issues on this topic) and his Wife who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth.

Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

The way I see it is,, The immigration debate is falling to a State level now.
But either way, and all of the Canadates now this, that if amnesty even comes into question there will be riots nation wide. Even worse, if amnesty is approved silently we would have to come up with a different word besides riot. Like "Civil WarII"
Do you think any of them would want this on their conscience?

Intersting you'd mention this. I was on the phone with my Dad who is in his early 60's and he said that he thinks he will see an internal uprising because of illegal immigration in his lifetime. I told him I wouldn't be surprised.....

I just talked to my aunt who is 60 on the phone today and we had a long conversation about the illegal immigrants and the effect it is having on our country. She just cant believe how our politicians dont do a damn thing to stop these illegal aliens from coming here. She is convenced that we are on our way to "Civil War II" also.
IMO, this WILL HAPPEN in my lifetime. Americans are fed up and we arent going to take it anymore.

Having a sinus headache I spent most of the day watching and listening to tv. I came away with a great sadness. We are now told this kind of hate speach is common in most black churches.

We that marched side by side with blacks in the civil rights movement are still hated by blacks.

If you just happen to be white every bad thing that has ever happened in history is your fault.

I saw a new spin coming out of this; Obama should be president because he is the only one that can solve this and unite us. Just watch this become his platform.

Don't lose site of the forest for the trees. There are MANY more factors that need to be considered in the election...yes, illegal immigration is on the top of the list. But, consider this...Obama is about as far left as one can get! Far left president means far left senators, far left representatives, far left judges, far left everything! And as we know, far lefties basically want:

1. The borders open
2. IA's given drivers licences, citizenship
3. More jobs exported overseas
4. More foreign workers imported
5. Redistribution of wealth
6. More taxes
7. Retreat from the terrorists
8. More welfare
9. Bigger government
10. Liberal education of our children..

etc, etc, etc. Need I go on???

Soooo, if one thinks McCain is bad for the country, you ain't seen nothin' yet if Obama or Hillary gets into the Whitehouse!

Just keep your eyes on the prize and we can win our cause, even with McCain!

Originally Posted by evangelinot

Here he goes again with his flip flopping. First he said he was not at church when Wright said these things. Well Wright says them all the time. Now it is said he was in church, but does not agree with all that is said -OK I can buy that.

But he has for 20 years attended this hate mongering church. Wright has been his personal spiritual advisor. This church supports Muslims of questionable loyalties and holds them up like saviors and role models. Fairy Con and Malcolm X are not the kind of "heroes" I find positive and useful. This church is a divisive political machine.

Is he white or black or biracial. I don't care except He uses the one that is convenient at the time. He makes excuses on why blacks can talk with hate rhetoric, while cleverly still putting the blame on white America, but in the next breath says move "ahead". He is a race baiter, when it suits him.


His business dealings and political pandering with Chicago Thugs is disturbing.

His legislation hurts Americans at home and their individual rights, while supporting and giving money to Muslim Extremist countries. Did his muslim loving church give him this idea? Where is the money going to come from??


He is going to grant amnesty and encourage more illegals the minute he gets a chance. This is not what America needs at this time. Enough are already here. Americans need jobs. Americans need the benefits illegals are taking. We can't afford any more crime connected with illegals. We can't afford medical care for illegals.

The guy is out of touch with middle class America, and will bury us further with his special brand of Socialism.

HE HAS NOT SHOWN ONE BIT OF SENATORIAL EXPERIENCE, CAREER EXPERIENCE or LIFE EXPERIENCE that qualifies him to be President of the USA. Not a bit. And he did nothing with his Foreign relations committee and voted "PRESENT" just a little too much for my taste.

I don't care about his race, his books on his Daddy (I think he has some major mental issues on this topic) and his Wife who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth.

"Here he goes again with his flip flopping. First he said he was not at church when Wright said these things. Well Wright says them all the time. Now it is said he was in church, but does not agree with all that is said."

This is because he was watching Fox News----the network that has been giving this issue the most attention. The night before the speech----someone said........"The biggest mistake he made was saying that he was never in the church when the reverand was giving those types of sermons----because he does not know if a video of him in the church during one of the sermons is going to surface."

If the smoking gun surfaces-----a video of him in that church during one of the fiery sermons -----Hussein Obama is done.

The "Reverand" was part of Hussein Obamas campaign staff----as a spiritual advisor-----until last week!!!



4/27/07 ABC News.

"In an interview with ABC News Wednesday afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., called for the firing of talk radio host Don Imus

'I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,' Obama told ABC News,'but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.'"

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/stor ... 317&page=1

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

McCain, Hillary, and Obama are all equally bad on the issue of illegal immigration.

As far as pre-election rhetoric, you are absolutely correct.

But after Obama becomes President, I think he will drop much of that rhetoric and yield to the demands of blacks to oppose the Hispanic illegals who are at war with black America. . . both in and out of the prison system.

Obama says some things I like about trade, jobs, etc. But I have no idea if he really believes them or not. He is basically an ultra-liberal, so I can help but doubt him on immigration, bilingualism, etc.

It's a no win situation with all three of them. They know that their are too many of them to turn against and still sustain elections. WE! need to speak louder and more visibly.