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    Quote Originally Posted by tinybobidaho
    We are never going to get anything different in the White House until we start voting different. Our country will continue to go down hill until we muster the courage to change our thinking on this. None of these top candidates are going to change a damned thing. They all have the pretty words they think the people want to hear. Personally, I'm not falling for their BS this time.
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    There you go again with your hyperinflation of other candidate's positions. Where in the name of all that is Holy do you see a candidate saying
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    "get out the jackboots and round um all up"
    ????"


    And yet all I keep hearing is that Romney is way to weak on his
    stated position of enforcement through attrician

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    Quote Originally Posted by usanevada
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    There you go again with your hyperinflation of other candidate's positions. Where in the name of all that is Holy do you see a candidate saying
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    "get out the jackboots and round um all up"
    ????"


    And yet all I keep hearing is that Romney is way to weak on his
    stated position of enforcement through attrician
    Try answering the question. Where do you find ANY candidate saying "Round 'em all up."??

    Romney has had almost a month to clarify his Russert interview and his position, yet he does not. He and his 'handlers' must think it better to leave the question unanswered, or at the least highly ambiguous. Lots of wiggle room there, and I don't trust the man.

    The man needs to eat at the 2 for 1 buffet to feed both of his faces...

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    You obviously didn't see the debates or the Wallace show on Sunday
    where Romney layed out his positions on immigration IN DETAIL

    but I forgive you ,

    To some no explanation will suffice

    You might also want to wiki "metaphor"

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    OK let face reality here, no matter what anyone of these people say where it really matters is in congress, we need to boot out every single person who has spoke or voted for amnesty.


    This is one issue where the president can only sign what comes to his desk, we need people in congress who are willing to stop this crap make sure our laws our enforced and go after the ones who refuse to enforce the laws.

    (Example) right now the trucks are rolling across our border, the head of DOT is doing as she damn well pleases even though it is against the law. We need a congress who will do oversight and see that people like her are removed for ignoring congress and the law.

    We need enough people in congress who are on our side that can keep any bill for amnesty from getting through the congress.

    It is the one sure way. Start with the 1/3 in the Senate and make sure we get rid of the traitor....sort out the House and get rid of the traitors. That is the only sure way.
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    "OK let face reality here, no matter what anyone of these people say where it really matters is in congress, we need to boot out every single person who has spoke or voted for amnesty."


    Probably the smartest thing I"ve seen posted all week

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    We need to concentrate on getting rid of the openly pro illegals candidates and stop fighting about the weak lying sack of crap ones. Only Tommy T and Hunter were and are strong supporters of our moment. I like Dr No for his whole platform he's not as strong as I would like. The rest of the candidates are not for real change they are mostly the same old same old. I know many think Dr No is to radical, consider this he would never an fifty year get his full agenda thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by domack
    We need to concentrate on getting rid of the openly pro illegals candidates and stop fighting about the weak lying sack of crap ones. Only Tommy T and Hunter were and are strong supporters of our moment. I like Dr No for his whole platform he's not as strong as I would like. The rest of the candidates are not for real change they are mostly the same old same old. I know many think Dr No is to radical, consider this he would never an fifty year get his full agenda thought!
    Pro Illegal

    All Dems
    Huck
    Rudi
    McCain

    Anti illegal

    Paul
    Hunter
    Romney

    No matter how you add this up , the choices won't change

    Probable next president

    Rudi
    Romney
    Obama
    Hillary

    JMO , it will be one of those 4

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    Sosad I am with you on congress - I think we should just vote out any incumbent - with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions - everyone else should go.

    But to think the PResident doesn't and won't have great power is something that is being put forward and we know that just isn't true.

    Congress, years ago, gave us bills to fix illegal immigration - regardless of what the ones there now are doing. WE have what we need to fix most of the problems. The PResident is not enforcing them - so in this instance, he has all the power.

    Even if congress voted in some very strigent new immigration bill, this President would not enforce it.

    Don't buy into the 'President has no power' - just look at the devastating changes that have occurred in this country in the past 7 years for which this President and his actions or inactions are responsible.

    Do we really need a bill that says employers need to use e-verify? I don't think so. We have a bill that says they can't hire illegal employees. Don't tell me these employers don't know when they are hiring illegals. A company that hires tens of thousands of hispanics say they don't know they are hiring illegals.

    Yes, they can be prosecuted. I'm not sure what laws specifically are on the books regrading that - but this President is very creative in the use of laws - just look at what they did to Ramos and Campean. They used a law designed to up the punishment for drug dealers against two BP agents.

    Don't tell me they couldn't use 'aiding and abetting' or RICO laws or some other thing against employers.

    Please don't accept 'the president can do nothing' - just look around.
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    If you take those 4...the only choice is Romney and with a good congress we could win in the end on illegal immigration
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