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    Great points William. There's a whole lot to consider in this election. .
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    Wow William, that's a lot of speculation. Some of which I strongly disagree with.

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**

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    Definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

    Its also the definition of STUPIDITY.

    And by voting for McCain or Obama means that you're a traitor to this country.
    Just lie down with your feet up in the air and play dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC
    2. If McCain wins the national message will be "A Republican can screw over the base on immigration and still win! No need to ever revisit this issue!"

    6. McCain is more likely to get an amnesty through Congress than Obama is.

    7. McCain lied to everyone in the Primary and talked tough on borders and then 180'd as soon as he had won.


    11. If Obama wins, the true conservative base in America will immediately rally against him.

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    I agree with the above points. If we hold our noses, vote and reward McCain, it will be a long, long time before we get a real conservative in the Oval Office. And it will be easier to rally Repubs on amnesty against Obama than against an empowered and vindictive Amnesty John. McCain would likely pick off Repubs who already waffle on illegal immigration, such as Coleman or Hutchison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC
    2. If McCain wins the national message will be "A Republican can screw over the base on immigration and still win! No need to ever revisit this issue!"

    6. McCain is more likely to get an amnesty through Congress than Obama is.

    7. McCain lied to everyone in the Primary and talked tough on borders and then 180'd as soon as he had won.


    11. If Obama wins, the true conservative base in America will immediately rally against him.
    As a conservatives against illegal immigration and amnesty in any way, shape or form...we're screwed either way.

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    I agree with the above points. If we hold our noses, vote and reward McCain, it will be a long, long time before we get a real conservative in the Oval Office. And it will be easier to rally Repubs on amnesty against Obama than against an empowered and vindictive Amnesty John. McCain would likely pick off Repubs who already waffle on illegal immigration, such as Coleman or Hutchison.
    As conservatives against illegal immigration and amnesty in any way, shape, or form...we're screwed either way.
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    ..that's the short version..

    <<Here is my pov I don't agree with McCain on his Immigration stance, and to me I feel that it is crucial that we stop this!!

    Chuck Baldwin, doesn't have a chance, good guy but maybe next time.

    Anything is better than Obama with a fully controlled liberal filibuster congress and judicial system period!

    What makes anyone here think that these party's consider a vote for them justification of their immigration stance? It makes no sense, they wont even bring up the issue!!!!!

    They don't care they even want Illegal's to vote!

    I think that if we have any chance of avoiding an amnesty I would rather take my chances with McCain. Palin should set him straight I hope, or at least be able to stand up to a dem congress.

    And I know at least we can keep judicial and executive branch republican.

    Obama will not stand up to the middle east or Korea or Russia.

    He will eliminate this country to a political correct state making it to the point to where what we are doing right now will be a crime.

    I know that people hate having to choose between the two evils, and I do too. But I think that if you give your vote to a 3rd party now you might as well vote for Obama and socialism, because without every republication voting republican Obama will win.

    Your choice though But I will not help Obama and regardless of what I feel should be done about Illegal Immigration I would vote for a veteran any day than a (MOD EDIT)>>
    No need for &lsquo;mass roundups&rsquo;, simply ENFORCE EXISTING law*& MANDATE the worker ID, ..but SEVEN amnesties? Hmm, WHO cried wolf?!

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    I prefer the enemy I know rather than the enemy I dont. Obama is a loose cannon that can destroy America. My vote has to go McCain. I will not throw a vote away which in its self will help Obama win....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    I fear Obama....want the border patrol dismantled? So I gotta hold my nose and vote McCain.
    I'm sure Obama will also stop the raids and will probably cut way back on enforcement.
    MW, you're a union member. How can you vote for McCain? I spent my careet finding work for people and it's scary to see jobs go overseas at the speed that they are heading. No matter who wins, we aren't going to win on the amnesty issue with the president and will havet o focus on congress but we can still win on the trade issue.

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    bettsie wrote:

    MW, you're a union member. How can you vote for McCain? I spent my careet finding work for people and it's scary to see jobs go overseas at the speed that they are heading. No matter who wins, we aren't going to win on the amnesty issue with the president and will havet o focus on congress but we can still win on the trade issue.
    You have me confused with someone else because I'm not, and have never been, in a union.

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