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08-05-2007, 03:19 PM #31Originally Posted by RockfishJoin our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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08-05-2007, 03:43 PM #32
This will be the only event that will wake up the citizens of the US to the dangers/problems of unrestricted, illegal immigration. I hope it happens, the sooner, the better. I'm ready.
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08-05-2007, 04:01 PM #33
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08-05-2007, 04:12 PM #34
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Originally Posted by Rattler
They are already getting more aggressive.
Actually, the woman have always been very agressive and abusive.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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08-05-2007, 04:22 PM #35
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A major concern will be how the msm, academia and judges decide to hide, spin and conceal the issue. For a great length of time now, the LA media has buried the issue violence committed by illegal aliens against Black Americans. This onslaught has been continuing under the radar and a sign of things to come as the "moviemento" picks up their machetes.
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08-05-2007, 07:45 PM #36
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Originally Posted by Chosen
Illegal immigration just has not existed until just a couple of years ago - at least according to the media and elected officials.
Although, they were there in plain sight - doing whatever - it just wasn't an issue.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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08-05-2007, 08:16 PM #37
Okay...here's my take on this (for anybody who cares).
I don't think we have anything to fear with regard to the illegals becoming violent. Now, let me clarify this. I DO believe there is a threat of violence from some of the MS-13 gangs, and maybe other rogue young Hispanic men; however, I don't think the general mass of illegals here in this country would be so STUPID as to bite the hands that feed them.
No matter what they do, no matter what they say, the illegals KNOW they need the American people and the American government if they are to thrive in the United States. If they rebel against us, especially to the extent that they become violent....what will it achieve? The illegals' are banking on the American people's compassion, guilt and sense of mercy. Without Americans who pity them, or even worse...who wish to use and exploit them for financial gain, they're doomed. So if they're attacking us, how much compassion and mercy are they going to get?
They can't get what they want (amnesty and open borders) if they turn against us and become violent. They know that they need to lay low and play the downtrodden pathetic victims. Their ONLY HOPE is to garner enough pity from enough Americans that they will eventually be granted amnesty.
They're nothing without us. And most of them know it. The few who are stupid enough to think that kniving us or throwing rocks at us, or even shooting at us, will somehow advance their cause...well, they're just plain insane. If they go to that extent, they'll turn just about every American against them.Calderon was absolutely right when he said...."Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico".
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08-05-2007, 08:28 PM #38
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Some good points - and you could be right.
I just think we should have gotten a clue from the marches. That was their attitude toward America and Americans.
Yes, some of them will be calm and law abiding. I am afraid, however, that due to the media blackout on this subject, we don't really have any idea of the huge numbers of criminals that have been sent to this country by Mexico.
Also due to the blackout of the media, I don't think any of us have any idea of the overall violence that is and has occurred in this country. The ones we hear about are just the tip of the iceberg. If not for the internet, much of these news would just be a local happening - if they even reported it.
But, again, our government may be agitating these people in order to bring about the police state.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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08-05-2007, 08:43 PM #39
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AG,
I would say that is the message given them by consultants, just with a spin on the "nothing without americans" part. They know that in order for them to be able to acheive a political victory (in a country that isn't theirs) they have to remain in the spotlight. What you just illuminated is the spin which would be imposed on acts of violence being reported upon in the msm. In other words, no thats not "us" those are just gangs.
I take slight offense to your classification, because you have, almost instantly, smothered the memories of the tens of thousands of victims of illegal alien violent crime. 99% of which were not committed by illegal alien gang members, but illegal aliens who came here as "workers." I don't know if that was your intention, but that is what your classification does.
I do find your comments slightly interesting tho', if merely as an example of the new marketing push by the RNC: "Refer to illegal aliens that commit overt crimes as criminal aliens and refer to everyone else as immigrants." As if, illegal immigration wasn't a crime or something. You can get a good less than pedantic example of this on O'Really. Semantics and the need to "reframe" the issue aside, still one major conundrum remains, illegal aliens (global crops, rhinos, leftists, collectivists) desire to rejuvenate the amnesty push. We will see more of the semantic games, as well as a drive to give wild manners of classification to illegals, the more "types" of illegals, the more dilluted the argument. However, in the end it is still about the rule of law. So this reframing is really nothing more than a marketing push. I shall call it Coke2 or New Coke.
Actually, illegals have no consideration or understanding of any symbiotic relationship with Americans. Whether it is your hypothesis (as per) or a quantifiable one, their behavior is directly related to what they want and simply put what they expect to acheive. I would wager that violence is part of their movement and it has been suspended to acheive a certain perception. But anyone who has been to the southwest knows much different. The hate that comes from the pro illegal hispanic community in general, illegal especially, is now the accepted rhetoric. When historians ook back to this era and analyze it they will point directly to it as indicative of a nationalist-socialist style uprising, a subversive cultural displacement funded by global coprs and collectivists.
Really, how can anyone who wears a Che shirt be seen as anything other than militant. Besides, the M in machismo doesn't stand for moderate.
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08-05-2007, 08:46 PM #40
Chosen wrote:
I take slight offense to your classification, because you have, almost instantly, smothered the memories of the tens of thousands of victims of illegal alien violent crime. 99% of which were not committed by illegal alien gang members, but illegal aliens who came here as "workers." I don't know if that was your intention, but that is what your classification does.Calderon was absolutely right when he said...."Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico".
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