Thread: William Gheen on Air with Lou Dobbs Shortly

Maybe somebody should remind Lou how he used to feel about amnesty.

Dobbs: Voters won't tolerate 'axis of amnesty'
POSTED: 8:20 a.m. EDT, September 7, 2006
By Lou Dobbs
CNN

Editor's note: Lou Dobbs' commentary appears every Wednesday on CNN.com.

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Hang on, the political thrill ride is about to begin. Are you ready? I know I am. And it's gonna be a hoot.

Our midterm elections are now two months away, and congressional, senatorial and gubernatorial campaigns are about to shift into high gear. After five weeks at home with their constituents, or at least some of them, our elected representatives are now back in session in Washington and fully armed with an understanding of the will of the people, ready to do the people's business.

Their first order of business? Why, to announce there will be no business done in this session of Congress on the critically important issues of border security and immigration reform. Can you feel the excitement?

Congressional and Senate Republicans have discovered that Karl Rove and his friend, President George W. Bush, not only don't have a clue when it comes to their favored "comprehensive immigration reform" plans, but also that Rove and Bush's alliance with open borders Democrats represents an axis of amnesty that their constituents simply won't tolerate.

Our do-nothing Congress and our do-nothing-right president aren't exactly wildly popular to begin with. And the Congressional Republican leadership has figured out that in closely contested races, any legislation approximating amnesty for as many as 20 million illegal aliens in this country will amount to wholesale defeat at the polls on November 7.

Even the pro-illegal alien and open borders lobby has finally arrived at the conclusion that the American people won't tolerate an illegal alien population demanding the same rights as American citizens. And the in-your-face enthusiasm of illegal aliens and their amnesty-advocate supporters has waned as the public understanding of the facts has risen.

This weekend, according to the AP, a pro-illegal alien rally in Los Angeles, California, drew fewer than 1,000 people, several hundred-thousand fewer than the rally held there just four months ago. In Phoenix, Arizona, where more than 100,000 illegal aliens and their supporters took to the streets in the spring, AP quoted organizers who estimated 5,000 showed up for a so-called labor solidarity march.

This trend was apparent all across the country this Labor Day weekend: AP reported only 3,000 people gathered in Chicago, Illinois. In San Francisco and Oakland the San Jose Mercury News reported crowds of only 3,000 and 2,500 respectively. And in Dallas, Texas, the AP reports only 500 people assembled for their demonstration. That's not exactly an overwhelming turnout.

But public knowledge of the costs of illegal immigration is overwhelming the propagandists of corporate America, ethnocentric special interests, the White House and President Bush's Democratic amnesty partners in the U.S. Senate.

The leaders of the nation's principal labor unions are obviously confused. They're now caught between trying to bolster their membership rolls by backing the Rove-Bush-Reid-McCain-Kennedy amnesty legislation and explaining to their existing members what they're doing to preserve the jobs and wage levels of American citizens. Add national labor leaders to the list of those simply out of touch with the will of the American people.

Labor leaders, Bush and Rove join Cardinal Roger Mahoney, the head of the Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles, who all apparently believe the interests of the illegal alien population transcend the law of the land and the interest of the American people.

Mahoney is enjoying precisely the same success as his fellow elitists: The illegal alien lobby that had been declaring "Today we march, tomorrow we vote" at every rally has not produced a tangible increase in new voter registration anywhere in the country.

The open borders lobby and amnesty advocates had hoped to form a new voter bloc to sway elections, but the Associated Press reports there's no indication of a new voter boom in Los Angeles; Chicago; Denver, Colorado; Houston, Texas, or any other city that held large pro-illegal alien rallies only months ago. This weekend's fizzled marches not only failed to energize significant numbers of people to register to vote, but they also didn't even persuade them to show up.

The leadership of this do-nothing Congress is right to do nothing in support of "comprehensive immigration reform," which are simply code words for illegal alien amnesty, open borders and the national interest be damned.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/05/dobbs. ... index.html

Originally Posted by Bowman

Originally Posted by vortex

Unfortunately, we have too large of a problem to even consider reaching out to make the felons (those here illegally) and their proponents.

Here's a solution I would embrace. All those who support giving illegal aliens a new path to US citizenship can trade their Passport and Citizenship with the illegal alien of their choice, with no dual citizenship allowed.

You can go first Lou.

Great Idea!

I am late getting back to the board this evening and have just read the comments on the podcast between William and Lou Dobbs.


I was one of the ones who posted that I would like to wait for clarification about what he had said with "the one who spoke for all Latinos"
It was so hard to believe that he is now saying he wants a Pathway to Citizenship, after all the years of him talking against Illegal immigration.
I am saddened that he has disappointed all of us who supported him here at ALIPAC and all across the country.

I still believe William and all of ALIPAC took the high ground by waiting a couple of days to have William speak with Mr. Dobbs. I perfectly understood everyone's dissapointment, shock and anger.
I see on the boards that you did a Fantastic job W. I'll be waiting to have a chance to hear the podcast and what William had to say to him.
After that I do not care to listen to anything else Mr. Dobbs has to say!
Absolutely NO Pathway to Citizenship. NO Amnesty of any sort.
That is what I believed when I joined ALIPAC and my convictions are even stronger now.
Time to take down the Pledge Page!

Where's the link to the podcast? I'd like to hear William and Lou.

Originally Posted by JBParrothead

Where's the link to the podcast? I'd like to hear William and Lou.

The only way to listen to the podcast is to be a paying member of Lou's radio show. But even then, I don't know if it could be transferred on here. This is new on his site. It used to be free to listen to the podcasts in the archives. W is probably working on a way to get a copy.

Originally Posted by Shad

I am late getting back to the board this evening and have just read the comments on the podcast between William and Lou Dobbs.


I was one of the ones who posted that I would like to wait for clarification about what he had said with "the one who spoke for all Latinos"
It was so hard to believe that he is now saying he wants a Pathway to Citizenship, after all the years of him talking against Illegal immigration.
I am saddened that he has disappointed all of us who supported him here at ALIPAC and all across the country.

I still believe William and all of ALIPAC took the high ground by waiting a couple of days to have William speak with Mr. Dobbs. I perfectly understood everyone's dissapointment, shock and anger.
I see on the boards that you did a Fantastic job W. I'll be waiting to have a chance to hear the podcast and what William had to say to him.
After that I do not care to listen to anything else Mr. Dobbs has to say!
Absolutely NO Pathway to Citizenship. NO Amnesty of any sort.
That is what I believed when I joined ALIPAC and my convictions are even stronger now.
Time to take down the Pledge Page!

Yes, I was also one who wanted to give Lou a chance to clarify, and he did, he supports amnesty which means he's not fit to hold public office in the United States, not even Dog Catcher.

Buh Bye, Lou.

W held our ground well.

Dobbs was predictable...defending himself and offering no real answers. I did not follow him much before as I am a "radio person" for news, but we need to move on from this now. We have one year and three years to keep working. Those who want to follow Dobbs...go ahead. The rest need to keep pushing ahead.

LOL!!!!!!!!

Judy, I agree 100%

I have never been so shocked by someone I had listened to and believed in for so many years.

Time to write Lou Dobbs off and do what ALIPAC does best without groveling Politicians.

Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal

W held our ground well.

Dobbs was predictable...defending himself and offering no real answers. I did not follow him much before as I am a "radio person" for news, but we need to move on from this now. We have one year and three years to keep working. Those who want to follow Dobbs...go ahead. The rest need to keep pushing ahead.

Absolutely. We need to push on at the local and state level, start asking our Sheriffs and Police Chiefs and State Troopers to enforce US immigration law as is their duty under USC Title 8, Chapter 12 ... Section 1324, and start arresting and deporting. We need to deputize about 2,500,000 unemployed, underemployed and even employed Americans to assist them and working together get these people who aren't supposed to be here out of here. We have 3,140 Sheriffs Departments and over 19,000 Municipal Police Departments plus 50 State Highway Patrols. Together we can get this done, get it done pronto and by 2012, there won't be any illegal aliens left in the United States drying up these Traitors Amnesty For Votes like a raisin on the roof in July.

We'll also need legalize/regulate/tax under the FairTax the illegal drug trade and that "flow" over the borders will dry up like water hole in the Sahara in August and illegal immigration will become just a bad memory having been replaced with the good memory of how this generation of Americans took their country back. Then in 2012 we'll throw all these traitors out of office and send them to a Soup Line with a Traitors Pink Slip clipped to their collars where they can grovel for some soup and a biscuit. And you know what? Those Soup Kitchens may not want to serve them either, since they're the ones who used illegal immigration and free trade treason to put millions of Good Americans in those Soup Lines to begin with.

Originally Posted by JBParrothead

Where's the link to the podcast? I'd like to hear William and Lou.

I just listened to it at:
http://www.loudobbs.com/programhighlights

Don't know how long it will be there but W came on almost half way through the broadcast.

Lou is talking compromise now so guess he's being groomed well to be a future politican who talks out of both sides of their mouth.