Thread: For or against Ron Paul?

Originally Posted by usanevada

Tom Tancredo and Sheriff Joe Arpiao are both supporting Romney

Now If someone wants to tell me they are "sell outs " and " globalist cfr supporters"

Go for it

And they also may end up changing their mind. Go Ron Paul.

I will not vote for RON PAUL. I agree with Terry Anderson. He will not vote for Ron Paul or as Terry put it "NO WAY".

Originally Posted by Balboa

Originally Posted by usanevada

Tom Tancredo and Sheriff Joe Arpiao are both supporting Romney

Now If someone wants to tell me they are "sell outs " and " globalist cfr supporters"

Go for it

And they also may end up changing their mind. Go Ron Paul.

They might

Tancredo has conditions for his support , for now he seems happy
that they have been met ,
A light at the end of the tunnel my be spots in a Romney administration for one or both of these guys

Or maybe not

Keep in mind , Tancredo is a good friend of Ron Paul , yet he didn't endorse him , Tancredos stated reason was he didn't feel Paul could win , and Toms contention is we need someone who can win and MIGHT actually work to fix the problem

Originally Posted by kneemow

Those opposed have to dig deep and far back to find anything they consider dergotory.

That's incorrect. The OBL quote was the only old one. The rest came from within the last year, perhaps even the last 6 months. Of course, that was the most ridiculous of the bunch, but the others are pretty wacky too. Unless you agree that illegal immigrants are being scape-goated, that we need them for a strong economy, and that we need a generous work program for them.

Ron Paul has no plans for going after employers

Ron Paul voted against Hunter's border/fence bill

Ron Paul has no plans on how to prevent illegals from continually making/using fraudulent documents

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Originally Posted by kneemow

Those opposed have to dig deep and far back to find anything they consider dergotory.

That's incorrect. The OBL quote was the only old one. The rest came from within the last year, perhaps even the last 6 months. Of course, that was the most ridiculous of the bunch, but the others are pretty wacky too. Unless you agree that illegal immigrants are being scape-goated, that we need them for a strong economy, and that we need a generous work program for them.

I don;t think he ever mentions ILLEGAL immigrants.

Originally Posted by agrneydgrl

I don;t think he ever mentions ILLEGAL immigrants.

Illegal immigration was always the topic at hand.

Originally Posted by AuntB

Look at Paul's record! Some minds are closed to the facts.

Following is the information that Terry Anderson attempted to discuss with the Ron Paul supporter, who refused to hear it either.

Above a Paul fan said Paul is the only one in the race who isn't CFR....Wrong. Duncan Hunter isn't.

Paul for voted for 3 AMNESTIES for visa overstaying aliens and voted against troops on the border.

Ron Paul’s Immigration Record
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Actually the 245(i) was for any illegal - visa overstayers or "entered the US without inspection"
Paul's plan going forward is poor - as Terry said Paul is wrong

Right "Some minds are closed to the facts"

Ron Paul makes more sense than any of the others, imho. Every chance I get, I listen to the man. He was excellent on Russert's the other day.

Don't you all think that the polls are being manipulated and controlled? Obviously Ron Paul has had more individual donations than all of the others, right? I mean, 4 million one day and 6 another?

And people are asking political talk show guests if that's the case, then why are his poll numbers so low. It's because the media, the polls and outcomes are all tarnished and manipulated!

If elites can control and maneuver into place our President, like they've been doing, then surely they're controlling polls so that America thinks Ron Paul doesn't have a chance. Trying to get sheeple not to vote for him because "he doesn't have a chance."

I think they're in for a huge shock real soon, when primaries begin.
ANQ

As far as going after Employer's of Illegal Aliens, I think you will find that states are going to pick up this issue one by one

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Ron Paul on:

Border Security and Immigration Reform
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:

Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.

Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.

Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

Which by the way ALIPAC want's LEGAL IMMIGRATION and fights ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. We need more balance from all over the world.... and not just from the southern hemisphere