Thread: Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama?

Originally Posted by noyoucannot

Until Islam gets its extremist problem under control, I'd be uncomfortable with a Muslim president.

We have not got our extremist problem under control and we expect Islam to get it's extremist problem under control?
We want Islam to condenm extremist actions and there are many, too many American citizens that do not condemn 9-11. Some believe it was an inside job and the Bush administration were the perpetrators because of their dealings with Saudi Arabia and 19 of the terrorist were Arabs. We did not attack countries that harbored terrorist and still don’t believe Bush is serious about his war on terrorism. Many Americans call the victims of 9-11 “collateral damage” brought on by U.S. policies and presence in the Middle East. “Jihad” is the right of Muslims to protect their religion and their land against aggressors and feel their attack on 9-11 was justified. This is the belief of many Americans.Osama is still out there and we know where he is and the borders are still open with 1 million illegally crossing a year and many are terrorist.
Most of us are not posting an opinion but what we hear on the news. Don’t respect me because I’ve been posting on this site a long time. We should respect all opinions no matter how long we’ve been here. We all have a right to an opinion and have the right to disagree.

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Thanks for that quote. Should we now sit down and watch some Leni Riefenstahl films to determine whether National Socialism was good or bad?

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No, but it is by choice and who are we to say what is good or bad for a country. In many ways, National Socialism is practice by our governmental leaders. Democracy is hard to see any more.

Sometimes we don't want contrition, we want blood. Sometimes there is just not enough not matter, we want more. We need to be careful not to want too much or expect too much or we get nothing.
Peace out, I do not think I can contribute anymore to this post. It is beginning to get augmentative.


As Shakespeare would say, "methinks thou doest protest too much. ...

I don't think expecting American citizens to be loyal to the Constitution and country is too much to ask.

This is what I don't like, that we're somehow expected to accept less than full allegiance from Muslims.

You want Sharia Law, move to Saudi Arabia.

Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys

I don't think expecting American citizens to be loyal to the Constitution and country is too much to ask.

This is what I don't like, that we're somehow expected to accept less than full allegiance from Muslims.

You want Sharia Law, move to Saudi Arabia.

Simply put, PINE.......and right down to the point.

The Constitution is the issue - not religion.

DYE
you are exactly right.......we are fighting Socialism within our own Government. Another reason why we must be extremely careful and not allow others who don't hold our Constitution in the highest of esteem near any elected office. We've got our hands full with our own traitors.

Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

Thanx DARLENE

been attempting to explain several of those points. Appreciate your pulling the article.

FYI: for anyone who wants to dig into information re: this subject
Little Green Footballs has been spending some years collecting it.

Also........take a gander at CAIR and be prepared to glue your hair on and your eyeballs in. They also get FEDERAL MONEY to spew their anti-Americanism around the world and are connected everywhere.

Ain't we in a fine kettle of soup?

I checked it out, and you are right. Thanks for the information. Please excuse me, I must go put my eyes back into my head now.

Originally Posted by Neese

Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

Thanx DARLENE

been attempting to explain several of those points. Appreciate your pulling the article.

FYI: for anyone who wants to dig into information re: this subject
Little Green Footballs has been spending some years collecting it.

Also........take a gander at CAIR and be prepared to glue your hair on and your eyeballs in. They also get FEDERAL MONEY to spew their anti-Americanism around the world and are connected everywhere.

Ain't we in a fine kettle of soup?

I checked it out, and you are right. Thanks for the information. Please excuse me, I must go put my eyes back into my head now.

Ain't that a heart attack?

Gluing your hair on too, NEESE?

And that's only the TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

Yes, the Jack Ellis story is especially infuriating.

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Barack Obama’s mother’s background.

Everyone is so concerned about the effect his father, being a Muslim had on him when he was two years old. I am more concerned about the people who raised him. There is nothing about their background. His mother was all over the place and had an attraction for men of color. I am more concerned about the people in his life that may have had an effect on him. There is nothing on the internet, beside their names. This really concerns me. Just because a ten year old was in a school that taught a class in Islam, does not make him a Muslim. I went to a Catholic school when I was a child, but I was never a Catholic.We are in a very sad place when we do a background check and go back to when a person was a two and ten year old child.
This is all we know about the DUNHAM family who raised him.
6. Stanley Armour DUNHAM was born on 23 March 1918 in Kansas and died 8 February 1992 in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is buried in Punchbowl National Cemetery, Honolulu, Hawaii.
7. Madelyn Lee PAYNE was born about 1922 in Wichita, Kansas. She currently lives in Oahu, Hawaii.
Stanley Armour DUNHAM and Madelyn Lee PAYNE were married on 5 May 1940, and had the following children:
3. Shirley Ann DUNHAM
Siaya District, Kenya.
1. 3. Shirley Ann DUNHAM was born on 27 November 1942 in Wichita, Kansas and died in 1995 of ovarian cancer.
Barack Hussein OBAMA Sr. and Shirley Ann DUNHAM were married in 1960 in Hawaii and had the following children:
1 i. Barack Hussein OBAMA, Jr.