Thread: Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama?

[MOD EDIT] We are at war with radical Muslims and with Mexico a drug war, a war against an illegal invasion. Illegal aliens are a threat to the physical, socially and economically well being of the American people. They should be rounded up and deported to their countries.
Corporations will not collapse and neither will the economy. If it does, we deserve it for depending on illegal cheap work force. The American people will not suffer if every illegals is deported. Corporation and the government that depend on donations from corporations will suffer and they should.
Jobs will be lost, but they will be jobs held by illegals. Mom and Pop store and business will come back and they will be supported by the neighborhoods.
There are Mexican owned businesses and they are supported by Mexicans and they cater to Mexicans. I say Mexicans because they are overwhelmingly the owners.
This is America for its people and no one else matters, because when things turn bad, and they will, illegals can return to their own country.

Originally Posted by Neese

Somebody needs to tell Obama that we are a Christian Nation. We are kind enough to allow people into our country if they are happy with the way things are, but we have no intention of changing. Barack seems influenced by his family, how could Islam not affected him? I have a lot of concern that Oprah is backing this guy. She has a lot of pull with her Oprah zombies.

A christian nation? Not true anymore. I personally know of 20 different religions in America. RELIGIONS OF AMERICA; published in 1952 by Leo Rosten. There have been many more added since then.

How was he influenced by his "white" family that raised him. He could hardly been influence by a muslim father that was no part of his life from the age of two and two years spent in a school that taught classes in Islam. I believe this is more about his being black than Muslim. "You can run from the facts, but you cannot hide." Racism alway show it's evil head.
Oprah zombies are predominately white women.

Isn't anyone the least curious about the family who actually raised him and make have had an effect of him.\?

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

DYHARD

Not sure but I think you might have taken what has been said here in the wrong way.

it doesn't have to do with religion, per se, it has everything to do with the fact that islamic law supercedes all laws.

There is no, and would never be, loyalty to the U.S. Constitution.

Why would an American vote for anyone who's loyalty lies in another direction. We've already been doing that for generations and that's why our country is in the condition that it is in.

Proof is sitting in the White House and Congress.

Exactly. While Christians, for example, are exhorted to obey the civil authorities (1 Peter 2:13,14; Romans 13:1-5), while Muslims are taught to reject any law beyond the Koran.

If this really was the case, there would not have been a large number of Jews and Christians in Iraq where Islams law is law and they intermarried and lived together in peace until our invasion when Muslims, Jews and Christians left Iraq.
Al Muslims in Iraq did not practice Islam the same way. There were Iraqi and Arab Shia, Summi, Kurds, Armenians and Turks and they all differ in practice. Even Saddam, a Sunni, had no problem the the different religious factions, including Jews and Christians.

DYE

Have you every been to Israel?
Have you any experience in the Middle East?

I have.

Originally Posted by cvangel

I

would hope NO Muslim could become President! But sometimes I wonder how foolish people are when we look at some of the people in office. Here's a related blog post:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...al_reason.html

January 26, 2007
The Real Reason Obama is Hiding Muslim Background

By Debbie Schlussel

[quote:3mpw35sn]Why is Barack Hussein Obama running, hiding, concealing, and denying when it comes to his Muslim background?

Various polls on Presidential elections indicate that he'd lose more than half the American people off the bat. Why can't he openly admit his background--that he was a Muslim at one time in his life, even though he claims to be a Christian now?

Various polls show us the answer.

Gallup, Pew, the Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg and FOX News frequently do polls on the one thing--the one bugaboo--that would keep the average American from voting for a Presidential candidate, even if the candidate was ideal in every other category.
islamiccrescent.jpgbarackobama.jpg

Americans are not stupid. They see the way Muslims around the world--and in America, too--act in the name of their religion. And more than half of them won't vote for a Muslim for President.

In June, a nationwide LA Times/Bloomberg poll showed these results:

Would Not Vote for a Presidential Candidate who is

Mormon--37%
Jew--15%
Evangelical Christian-21%
Muslim--54%
Catholic--10%

A December FOX News Poll shows these results:

Less likely to vote for a presidential candidate if the candidate is:

A Protestant--6%
Roman Catholic--10%
Jewish--10%
A Member of the Christian Coalition--24%
A Mormon--32%
A Muslim--45%
An Athiest--50%
A Scientologist--53%

In 2004, a Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life survey found that 38% of Americans would not vote for a Muslim for President.

Here are the numbers from Gallup in 1999:

Percentage of Americans who won't vote for a Presidential candidate who is . . .

Catholic: 4% (1937: 30%)
Black: 5% (1958: 63%, 1987: 21%)
Jewish: 6% (1937: 47%)
Baptist: 6%
Woman: 8%
Mormon: 17%
Muslim: 38%
Gay: 37% (1978: 74%)
Atheist: 48%

The proof is in the numbers. A Muslim candidate cannot become President at this point in time. And Barack Hussein Obama does not want Americans to know that, at the very least, at one point in his life, he was a Muslim. And is still very sypathetic to their viewpoint.

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Debbie Schlussel is a known rasict and she does not hide the fact. Obama is not a Muslim.

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

Originally Posted by dyehard39

"Where there is ignorance, there is often fear, even though the vast majority of Muslims in America are interested in being good neighbors, enjoying the freedoms our Cohntstitution provides, and being helpful contributors to American society. many Americans unfortunately equate being Arab or Muslim with an inclination toward violence and terrorism, and they are deeply concerned about the growth of Islam and the teaching of the Koran in the United States and the spread of ideas that come out of the Koran."

qoute;
"Understanding the Koran;
Mateen Elass

Thanks for that quote. Should we now sit down and watch some Leni Riefenstahl films to determine whether National Socialism was good or bad?

Has nothing to do with Barack Obama.

Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

DYE

Have you every been to Israel?
Have you any experience in the Middle East?

I have.

To do not have to go to these places to know the people and the religion. There is plenty of information out there.

I do understand where you're coming from, DYE, as I've been there myself. It took many years for me to accept the truth.

Personally, I'll put my experiences over the disinformation that is placed into our airwaves for mass consumption. I know what I've seen with my own eyes and I know a bit of history.

It's amazing, to me, that it's landed on our shores but, alas, it has and turning our backs on truth is destructive.

Again, it is beneficial to inspect CAIR for a great deal of the truth.
Look at the results in europe.
Look at the happenings right here in the U.S.
Look at how the muslims are using our Constitution to, in effect, destroy it.

Eventually, eyes open and the truth is the truth.
No different than the ILLEGALS............who are being used by the islamic maniacs now as another way to infiltrate and do their dirty deeds.

Originally Posted by dyehard39

Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

DYE

Have you every been to Israel?
Have you any experience in the Middle East?

I have.

To do not have to go to these places to know the people and the religion. There is plenty of information out there.

Specifically, how do you know the people and the religion?

Debbie Schlussel is a known rasict and she does not hide the fact.

Whoa! You want to prove that?