Thread: Whether or not you like Paul this is huge!!!

UsPatriot says:

The night of the NH vote a member of a Ron Paul focus group was complaining there were over 600 people in her group yet only 300 people supposedly voted for RP in the whole co..They were trying to stay positive and not blame it on his votes not being counted but they were stymied as to what was going on.Guess now we know.

What town was this in?

Rush says that Hillary called out the "flying monkeys" and had first time voters bussed in to vote!

Personally I think it was the New Hampshire Pity Party, she shed a phony tear and they fell for it. That is pathetic much as that calculated tear was. Tsk, tsk.

Isn't that going to be nice in the white house with all those radical whack jobs trying to kill us, what will she do, sit there and sniffle?

Give me a break!

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

UsPatriot says:

The night of the NH vote a member of a Ron Paul focus group was complaining there were over 600 people in her group yet only 300 people supposedly voted for RP in the whole co..They were trying to stay positive and not blame it on his votes not being counted but they were stymied as to what was going on.Guess now we know.

What town was this in?

Tinybob I don't remember but it was at dailypaul forum that I read it.Should be easy enough to track at the forum.

USPatriot wrote:

Bear Flag I respect your opinion but who else running says they will end Birthright Citizenship other then RON PAUL.

I don't believe it's accurate to state that Ron Paul says he will end birthright citizenship. If he has made such a statement, he's being overly ambitious and a little disingenuous. To his credit he is calling for the end of birthright citizenship. However, I don't believe he has made a campaign promise to actually end it.

I'm a little disappointed that he didn't sign on to Rep. Deal's bill that would end birthright citizenship. The bill currently has somehwere around 96 cosponsors, but unfortunately Paul's name is conspicuously missing from the list.

H.R. 1940: Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007

To amend section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify those classes of individuals born in the United States who are nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.

Overview Summary Other Info

Bill Status
Sponsor: Rep. Nathan Deal [R-GA]show cosponsors (96)
Cosponsors [as of 2007-12-10]

Rep. Robert Aderholt [R-AL]
Rep. Todd Akin [R-MO]
Rep. Rodney Alexander [R-LA]
Rep. Spencer Bachus [R-AL]
Rep. Richard Baker [R-LA]
Rep. James Barrett [R-SC]
Rep. Roscoe Bartlett [R-MD]
Rep. Brian Bilbray [R-CA]
Rep. Gus Bilirakis [R-FL]
Rep. Jo Bonner [R-AL]
Rep. John Boozman [R-AR]
Rep. Kevin Brady [R-TX]
Rep. Paul Broun [R-GA]
Rep. Henry Brown [R-SC]
Rep. Michael Burgess [R-TX]
Rep. Dan Burton [R-IN]
Rep. Ken Calvert [R-CA]
Rep. John Campbell [R-CA]
Rep. John Carter [R-TX]
Rep. Howard Coble [R-NC]
Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX]
Rep. Barbara Cubin [R-WY]
Rep. John Culberson [R-TX]
Rep. David Davis [R-TN]
Rep. Geoff Davis [R-KY]
Rep. Jo Ann Davis [R-VA]
Rep. Thelma Drake [R-VA]
Rep. John Duncan [R-TN]
Rep. Terry Everett [R-AL]
Rep. Tom Feeney [R-FL]
Rep. James Forbes [R-VA]
Rep. Jeffrey Fortenberry [R-NE]
Rep. Virginia Foxx [R-NC]
Rep. Elton Gallegly [R-CA]
Rep. Scott Garrett [R-NJ]
Rep. John Gingrey [R-GA]
Rep. Louis Gohmert [R-TX]
Rep. Virgil Goode [R-VA]
Rep. Robert Goodlatte [R-VA]
Rep. Ralph Hall [R-TX]
Rep. Robin Hayes [R-NC]
Rep. Dean Heller [R-NV]
Rep. Jeb Hensarling [R-TX]
Rep. Walter Herger [R-CA]
Rep. Peter Hoekstra [R-MI]
Rep. Duncan Hunter [R-CA]
Rep. Darrell Issa [R-CA]
Rep. Samuel Johnson [R-TX]
Rep. Walter Jones [R-NC]
Rep. Jim Jordan [R-OH]
Rep. Steve King [R-IA]
Rep. Jack Kingston [R-GA]
Rep. John Kline [R-MN]
Rep. John Kuhl [R-NY]
Rep. John Linder [R-GA]
Rep. Daniel Lungren [R-CA]
Rep. Donald Manzullo [R-IL]
Rep. Kenny Marchant [R-TX]
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter [R-MI]
Rep. John McHugh [R-NY]
Rep. Howard McKeon [R-CA]
Rep. John Mica [R-FL]
Rep. Gary Miller [R-CA]
Rep. Jeff Miller [R-FL]
Rep. Tim Murphy [R-PA]
Rep. Marilyn Musgrave [R-CO]
Rep. Sue Myrick [R-NC]
Rep. Randy Neugebauer [R-TX]
Rep. Mike Pence [R-IN]
Rep. Collin Peterson [D-MN]
Rep. Joseph Pitts [R-PA]
Rep. Todd Platts [R-PA]
Rep. Ted Poe [R-TX]
Rep. Tom Price [R-GA]
Rep. Michael Rogers [R-AL]
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher [R-CA]
Rep. Peter Roskam [R-IL]
Rep. Edward Royce [R-CA]
Rep. Jean Schmidt [R-OH]
Rep. Peter Sessions [R-TX]
Rep. John Shadegg [R-AZ]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. William Shuster [R-PA]
Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]
Rep. Mark Souder [R-IN]
Rep. Clifford Stearns [R-FL]
Rep. John Sullivan [R-OK]
Rep. Thomas Tancredo [R-CO]
Rep. Gene Taylor [D-MS]
Rep. Greg Walden [R-OR]
Rep. Zach Wamp [R-TN]
Rep. David Weldon [R-FL]
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland [R-GA]
Rep. Edward Whitfield [R-KY]
Rep. Roger Wicker [R-MS]
Rep. Addison Wilson [R-SC]

Cosponsorship information sometimes is out of date. Why?
Bill Text: Summaries (CRS)
Full Text
Status: Introduced Apr 19, 2007
Scheduled for Debate -
Voted on in House -
Voted on in Senate -
Signed by President -

This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills go first to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills never make it out of committee. Keep in mind that sometimes the text of one bill is incorporated into another bill, and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned. [Last Updated: Dec 9, 2007]

Last Action: May 4, 2007: Referred to the Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law.
Show All Related Votes

Committee Assignments
This bill is in the first stage of the legislative process where the bill is considered in committee and may undergo significant changes in markup sessions. The bill has been referred to the following committees:

House Judiciary
House Judiciary, Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1940

MW,

I believe that is because he has his OWN bill trying to do the same thing...

This does not surprise me at all, it is only the beginning. Wait until we get to Calif. Texas New Mexico etc.

what do you think the intentions of a state are that would allow anybody from anywhere pick our canidates who will make it to the presidential election.

Let me tell you something else if this was Idaho I would be screaming so loud someones ears would be hurting and I do believe it would be Governor Otters.

Where are the people of NH? Wake up Americans you damn fools you are about to be run over by Corporate America and you are going to stand right in front of the "BIG RED TRUCK" and let it happen.

And anybody not pissed about this no matter which canidate, well I don't know what to say execpt this is about us, all of us, and our constitutional right to vote, have it counted and "We the people " pick our chosen President. not people bused in, not illegals. all of this is just crap. Now we have 3rd world elections. Thats what you should be mad about!

And that should be the only conversation in this thread! Try to stay on topic!

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Originally Posted by MW

USPatriot wrote:

Bear Flag I respect your opinion but who else running says they will end Birthright Citizenship other then RON PAUL.

I don't believe it's accurate to state that Ron Paul says he will end birthright citizenship. If he has made such a statement, he's being overly ambitious and a little disingenuous. To his credit he is calling for the end of birthright citizenship. However, I don't believe he has made a campaign promise to actually end it.

I'm a little disappointed that he didn't sign on to Rep. Deal's bill that would end birthright citizenship. The bill currently has somehwere around 96 cosponsors, but unfortunately Paul's name is conspicuously missing from the list.

[quote:3ujreltn]H.R. 1940: Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007

To amend section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify those classes of individuals born in the United States who are nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.

Overview Summary Other Info

Bill Status
Sponsor: Rep. Nathan Deal [R-GA]show cosponsors (96)
Cosponsors [as of 2007-12-10]

Rep. Robert Aderholt [R-AL]
Rep. Todd Akin [R-MO]
Rep. Rodney Alexander [R-LA]
Rep. Spencer Bachus [R-AL]
Rep. Richard Baker [R-LA]
Rep. James Barrett [R-SC]
Rep. Roscoe Bartlett [R-MD]
Rep. Brian Bilbray [R-CA]
Rep. Gus Bilirakis [R-FL]
Rep. Jo Bonner [R-AL]
Rep. John Boozman [R-AR]
Rep. Kevin Brady [R-TX]
Rep. Paul Broun [R-GA]
Rep. Henry Brown [R-SC]
Rep. Michael Burgess [R-TX]
Rep. Dan Burton [R-IN]
Rep. Ken Calvert [R-CA]
Rep. John Campbell [R-CA]
Rep. John Carter [R-TX]
Rep. Howard Coble [R-NC]
Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX]
Rep. Barbara Cubin [R-WY]
Rep. John Culberson [R-TX]
Rep. David Davis [R-TN]
Rep. Geoff Davis [R-KY]
Rep. Jo Ann Davis [R-VA]
Rep. Thelma Drake [R-VA]
Rep. John Duncan [R-TN]
Rep. Terry Everett [R-AL]
Rep. Tom Feeney [R-FL]
Rep. James Forbes [R-VA]
Rep. Jeffrey Fortenberry [R-NE]
Rep. Virginia Foxx [R-NC]
Rep. Elton Gallegly [R-CA]
Rep. Scott Garrett [R-NJ]
Rep. John Gingrey [R-GA]
Rep. Louis Gohmert [R-TX]
Rep. Virgil Goode [R-VA]
Rep. Robert Goodlatte [R-VA]
Rep. Ralph Hall [R-TX]
Rep. Robin Hayes [R-NC]
Rep. Dean Heller [R-NV]
Rep. Jeb Hensarling [R-TX]
Rep. Walter Herger [R-CA]
Rep. Peter Hoekstra [R-MI]
Rep. Duncan Hunter [R-CA]
Rep. Darrell Issa [R-CA]
Rep. Samuel Johnson [R-TX]
Rep. Walter Jones [R-NC]
Rep. Jim Jordan [R-OH]
Rep. Steve King [R-IA]
Rep. Jack Kingston [R-GA]
Rep. John Kline [R-MN]
Rep. John Kuhl [R-NY]
Rep. John Linder [R-GA]
Rep. Daniel Lungren [R-CA]
Rep. Donald Manzullo [R-IL]
Rep. Kenny Marchant [R-TX]
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter [R-MI]
Rep. John McHugh [R-NY]
Rep. Howard McKeon [R-CA]
Rep. John Mica [R-FL]
Rep. Gary Miller [R-CA]
Rep. Jeff Miller [R-FL]
Rep. Tim Murphy [R-PA]
Rep. Marilyn Musgrave [R-CO]
Rep. Sue Myrick [R-NC]
Rep. Randy Neugebauer [R-TX]
Rep. Mike Pence [R-IN]
Rep. Collin Peterson [D-MN]
Rep. Joseph Pitts [R-PA]
Rep. Todd Platts [R-PA]
Rep. Ted Poe [R-TX]
Rep. Tom Price [R-GA]
Rep. Michael Rogers [R-AL]
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher [R-CA]
Rep. Peter Roskam [R-IL]
Rep. Edward Royce [R-CA]
Rep. Jean Schmidt [R-OH]
Rep. Peter Sessions [R-TX]
Rep. John Shadegg [R-AZ]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. William Shuster [R-PA]
Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]
Rep. Mark Souder [R-IN]
Rep. Clifford Stearns [R-FL]
Rep. John Sullivan [R-OK]
Rep. Thomas Tancredo [R-CO]
Rep. Gene Taylor [D-MS]
Rep. Greg Walden [R-OR]
Rep. Zach Wamp [R-TN]
Rep. David Weldon [R-FL]
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland [R-GA]
Rep. Edward Whitfield [R-KY]
Rep. Roger Wicker [R-MS]
Rep. Addison Wilson [R-SC]

Cosponsorship information sometimes is out of date. Why?
Bill Text: Summaries (CRS)
Full Text
Status: Introduced Apr 19, 2007
Scheduled for Debate -
Voted on in House -
Voted on in Senate -
Signed by President -

This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills go first to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills never make it out of committee. Keep in mind that sometimes the text of one bill is incorporated into another bill, and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned. [Last Updated: Dec 9, 2007]

Last Action: May 4, 2007: Referred to the Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law.
Show All Related Votes

Committee Assignments
This bill is in the first stage of the legislative process where the bill is considered in committee and may undergo significant changes in markup sessions. The bill has been referred to the following committees:

House Judiciary
House Judiciary, Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1940[/quote:3ujreltn]

MW I thought this was Tancredos Bill ? Ron Paul has one too he just has a different approach he wants to amend our constitution.

Yes he said in a TV Ad he wants to end Birthright Citizenship and why are you critizing that ? I feel the only way we will get the Birthright Citizenship stopped is if we have a President who will really push it through.I don't believe,unless we really change who is in congress,we will ever get a Birthright Bill signed.IMHO

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

Personally I think it was the New Hampshire Pity Party, she shed a phony tear and they fell for it. That is pathetic much as that calculated tear was. Tsk, tsk.

You could be right but I believe it was the Democratic Machine ("flying monkeysâ€