Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by Hawk

I would ask the question , what country issued obama a passport to travel to Pakistan in the '80's when travel there was banned by the US ?

According to Snopes, travel to Pakistan by Americans was not banned back then at all, merely the subject of an advisory. They cite publications at the time to show that other Americans were openly visiting that country: http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/trave ... story.html (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp).

Originally Posted by BetsyRoss

Originally Posted by Hawk

I would ask the question , what country issued obama a passport to travel to Pakistan in the '80's when travel there was banned by the US ?

According to Snopes, travel to Pakistan by Americans was not banned back then at all, merely the subject of an advisory. They cite publications at the time to show that other Americans were openly visiting that country: http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/trave ... story.html (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp).

Snopes is in the bag for Obama. They will print anything Obama wants printed.

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Originally Posted by BetsyRoss

Originally Posted by Hawk

I would ask the question , what country issued obama a passport to travel to Pakistan in the '80's when travel there was banned by the US ?

According to Snopes, travel to Pakistan by Americans was not banned back then at all, merely the subject of an advisory. They cite publications at the time to show that other Americans were openly visiting that country: http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/trave ... story.html (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp).

Snopes is in the bag for Obama. They will print anything Obama wants printed.

But what about the sources they cite? Is everything faked? It should be easy to find out whether travel to Pakistan was really illegal for Americans in 1981 or not.

Originally Posted by BetsyRoss

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Originally Posted by BetsyRoss

Originally Posted by Hawk

I would ask the question , what country issued obama a passport to travel to Pakistan in the '80's when travel there was banned by the US ?

According to Snopes, travel to Pakistan by Americans was not banned back then at all, merely the subject of an advisory. They cite publications at the time to show that other Americans were openly visiting that country: http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/trave ... story.html (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp).

Snopes is in the bag for Obama. They will print anything Obama wants printed.

But what about the sources they cite? Is everything faked? It should be easy to find out whether travel to Pakistan was really illegal for Americans in 1981 or not.

Betsy,

Prior to the 2008 election, I had a running gun battle with Snopes regarding facts I knew were accurate, and they would just NOT correct their inaccuracies. Big red flags went off immediately.

I'm certain not everything is faked. Snopes is a mom-and-pop business run out of the San Fernando Valley, and has been reported on here (by FreedomFirst as I recall). For non-political issues, Snopes may be quite accurate.

For anything sensitive to Obama or the Democrats, I would suggest seeking confirming sources, because Snopes just will not represent anything truthful regarding Obama.

I no longer use Snopes as a resource because of their dishonesty - I just don't know what to believe from them.

Originally Posted by Hawk

I would ask the question , what country issued obama a passport to travel to Pakistan in the '80's when travel there was banned by the US ?

It could NOT HAVE BEEN ON A US PASSPORT at that time. So that my friend is the question, what country is Obama really a citizen of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1nmn2zRMc

Mike Castle on PeeBo's Birthcertificate.



Kenyan Ambassador Finally Admits Obama Born in Kenya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SebxDwji__I

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Other interesting viewing:

Kenyan Ambassador Finally Admits Obama Born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SebxDwji ... re=related

What about the New York Times on the subject of travel by Americans to Pakistan in 1981?

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/23/trave ... 981&st=cse

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/trave ... 981&st=cse

See also: http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/148791

What if it turns out there was no ban on Americans travelling to Pakistan at the time Obama admits to having gone there?

I just picked this up from military.com on a forum dedicated to the Major Cook, Orly Taitz court hearing.

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Obama strolled right on past any security checks via the following loophole, described in a radio interview of an FBI agent one year ago:

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This is a conversation between the Special Agent-in-Charge: C. Frank Figliuzzi of the Cleveland FBI and Mike Trivisonno on the Mike Trivisonno Show, WTAM 1100, 7/02/08, Hr. 2.

Caller - Do they perform background checks on candidates and fellows who are in Congress and the Senate and perhaps potential presidential candidates?.

FBI - The short answer is no, no we don’t, but they’re given top secret clearances because they’re members of Congress, or Senators, or even higher ranking officials.

Host - Time out. There are no background checks from the FBI on the people that lead the country, the United States of America?.

FBI - Let me emphasize, elected officials. This is a democracy, the people have elected an official to represent them in Washington, and we do not routinely run background checks on those people.

Host - Even people running for president of the United States of America?.

FBI - That’s correct.

Host - That’s a little weird

FBI - Well, its part of democracy, its part of what the American people want, they want to be able to vote for somebody to represent them in Washington and they don’t want us to get in the way of that and we have no predilection to get in the way of that.

Host - Yeah, but what if they’re voting for a bad person and they don’t know that person is bad, do you follow me?. I’m saying, if the guy’s got a background and maybe he’s involved with some people that he shouldn’t be involved with, shouldn’t we know that as voters?.

FBI - Well, I think you’d agree that the American political process is about as rigorous as you’ll ever see and if there’s dirt back there, probably the opponent is gonna get it out probably before anyone else will.

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Check this out:

EX-FBI AGENTS OUTRAGED AT OBAMA-AYERS TIES
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/fbi_ob ... 40252.html

Bottom line: It's up to private citizens like Stefan Cook and Orly Taitz, to pick up this ball and run with it. It's one of the few ways to bring this issue to light.

--To the flock of obedient militant sheep who (without doing your homework) are so quick to condemn Major Cook, why don't you give us some possible examples of what would be a "domestic violation of the Constitution", if not the highest office of the land being occupied by a charlatan?

--To the flock of obedient race-baiting sheep who think that anyone against Obama is racist, nope, that dog don't hunt. I can think of half a dozen better-qualified afro-americans that I'd rather see as President, than this flim-flam used-car salesman who is so serious about hiding his past. He's a real, genuine scam artist who ALMOST made the big-time.

If it weren't for the Internet, America would be had, plain and simple.

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It would seem the FBI lets any wolf into the hen house - no questions asked. The FBI is trying to stay below the criticism radar I'm sure. Limp excuse from our 'best' internal policing agency, don't you think?