Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

WHAT OTHER EVIDENCE DO WE NEED?

by Sharon Rondeau
Date: Apr. 3, 2010
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/03/ ... -in-kenya/

Obama's wife admits he was born in Kenya by describing it as his "home country." What other evidence would a court or the military need to charge him with fraud and treason?

(Apr. 3, 2010) — While giving a speech on AIDS and health care to a delegation of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender (GLBT) Democrats, Michelle Obama described Kenya as Obama’s “home country.â€

Originally Posted by Sharon Rondeau

WHAT OTHER EVIDENCE DO WE NEED?

Date: Apr. 3, 2010
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/03/ ... -in-kenya/

When does the military step in and as a whole, refuse to take a usurper’s orders? How much longer can Defense Secretary Robert Gates, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General George Casey and others continue to participate in this charade? Our government has been overtaken by a foreign power, and for the last 16 months, Americans have been held hostage to a usurper and a criminal Congress. How much longer can this go on?

No other evidence is needed, only a U.S. District Judge or a military tribunal to demand discovery.

http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RL32458.pdf

[quote="Jonathan Wallace"][size=117] http://www.spectacle.org/yearzero/tribunal.html

In Ex parte Quirin (1942), the Supreme Court unanimously upheld the jurisdiction of Roosevelt’s tribunal (also called “military commissionâ€

This article from The Post & Email reconfirms what we already know about Obama, and I think the question remains - how much more do we need to know before we 'get it' that Obama is an unlawful POTUS and a usurper.

I think Publius Huldah and I are in agreement that we have already been usurped and overthrown in a quiet coup d'état, and no one in government cares a whit about law in this country. We are being controlled by the rule of man - not the rule of law.

Now what?

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Why Obama cannot be a natural born Citizen
A LEGAL ANALYSIS OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP

by Jim Delaney
The Post & Email, April 5, 2010
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/05/ ... n-citizen/

John A. Bingham, author of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which was intended to confer U.S. citizenship to the children of slaves born in the U.S.

(Apr. 5, 2010) — Obama, born in 1961 of a U.S. Citizen mother and a British Citizen (born in Kenya) father, was born a “U.S. Citizenâ€

BEYOND COINCIDENCE

By Lynn Stuter
April 6, 2010
NewsWithViews.com

Let us examine what we already know about the eligibility of Also Known As (AKA) Obama. We know that he claims to have been the child of Ann Dunham Obama and Barack Hussein Obama (Sr), a British subject at the time of AKA's birth. We only know what he claims as we have seen no proof.

We know that while AKA claims his birthplace as Hawaii, we don't know that is really true because, while AKA admits that his birth certificate exists — that is, the one issued at or near the time of his birth — all that anyone has seen are pictures of a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) supposedly issued in 2007, printed on a form established in 2001 and printed with a laser printer. We only know what he claims as no one, of authority, has actually seen, handled, or inspected what AKA contends is his COLB.

The state of Hawaii, while issuing COLB's in lieu of a certified copy of the actual birth document, has categorically refused to authenticate the document AKA claims is his authentic COLB. Likewise, the state of Hawaii has been unable/unwilling to produce any documents that would prove AKA actually requested a COLB, a prerequisite to obtaining a certified COLB.

We also know that the pictures that have turned up on the internet of the document AKA claims is his COLB have been photoshopped. We also know that pictures are not proof of the authenticity of a document; the only proof is in examination of the actual document which has not occurred.

We know that AKA claims he was a dual citizen at birth, of both U.S. and British citizenship which became Kenyan citizenship http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/d ... nship.html when Kenyan became independent of Great Britain. Of course, dual citizenship precludes his eligibility to the office of president of the United States under Article II, Section I, Clause 5, United States constitution, requiring he be "natural born". This clause was used by the Founding Fathers in reference to Vattel's Law of Nations, Part I, Chapter 19, Section 212, which states: http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/vattel/vatt-119.htm

"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."

This clause, of course, makes it clear that if Obama Sr is AKA's father, that AKA was a British subject at birth, then a citizen of Kenya when Kenya became independent of Great Britai, following his father's citizenship. This also comports with the British Nationality Act of 1948, http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm Part II, Section 5; much of which was repealed in 1981 but in force in 1961.

The contention has been made that AKA is a U.S. citizen by virtue of his birth in Hawaii to an American mother. Beyond the fact that if Obama Sr is his father, AKA would have followed the citizenship of his father, we do not know that he was born in Hawaii because we do not know that the COLB is authentic and we do not know that he actually was born in Hawaii. He says he way, but AKA has told so many lies, can we believe this is anything other than another lie?

We do know that under Act 96, http://books.google.com/books?id=0PjvG3BkcBAC Laws of the Territory of Hawaii, Regular Session of 1911, Special Session of 1909 and the Organic Act, in effect from 1911 until repealed in 1972, foreign-born children could be birth registered in Hawaii. We also know that Obama's supposed birth certificate number is out of sequence with babies born in the same time-frame; that his birth certificate number is after the birth certificate numbers of babies born after he was supposedly born. We also know that, if born in Hawaii, his name does not exist in the Hawaii birth index, in 1961, before or after. http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/26/ ... stigation/

All of this, of course, raises the specter of who registered his birth in Hawaii and where was he actually born. We know that no hospital in Hawaii has claimed title to his birth, not even the hospital where he now contends he was born, Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital. Only inspection of the actual birth document, the one that AKA has but refuses to provide for inspection, will reveal the facts.

Then there are the social security numbers that AKA has used; one issued in Connecticut and one issued in Michigan, neither a state he has ever lived in. These two social security numbers are tied to addresses where AKA is known to have lived in Chicago. True to nature, his mother also used social security numbers that were not hers, one belonging to a western Washington woman who is still living. We know that illegal aliens use social security numbers that are not theirs but that law-abiding American citizens don't need to.

Added in is the matter of AKA's adoption by Lolo Soetoro and his subsequent registration, on January 1, 1967, at the Fransiskus Assisi Primary School in Jakarta, Indonesia, as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen of Muslim faith. We know that in the divorce papers http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf of Ann Dunham Soetoro vs. Lolo Soetoro, Barack, then over the age of 18, no longer a minor, was listed as a dependent of Lolo Soetoro for the purposes of education. Since step-children are not the responsibility of a step-father, under divorce proceedings, this points to Barry Soetoro actually having been adopted by Lolo Soetoro, of his being an Indonesian citizen. That Barry was mentioned as a dependent of Lolo Soetoro for the purposes of education raises the specter that such was done so Barry Soetoro could receive aid as a foreign student to attend college or university in the United States. AKA's Occidental College records have been sealed, making it impossible to ascertain whether he received aid as a foreign student while attending there. If he did, it is obvious that he was not an American citizen when he attended there.

Beyond this, there has been no proof presented that Barry Soetoro, if even able to do so, reclaimed American citizenship.

And there seems to be a large discrepancy between AKA's Selective Service registration http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/201 ... Obama.html and support documents and other Selective Service registrations and support documents, also from Hawaii in the same time period. By all appearances, AKA's selective service documents have been altered or forged bringing further into question when those documents were actually submitted, in 1980 or in 2008.

As an American, AKA would have been required to register with the Selective Service in 1980; as a non-resident student going to school in the United States, he would not have been required to register. Further, if an American in 1980, if he did not register for the Selective Service in 1980, such would preclude him from ever holding a public office.

The anomalies in his Selective Service registration indicate one of three things: 1) he was not a citizen in 1980; or 2) he was a citizen in 1980 but did not register; or 3) his Selective Service registration was forged in 2008 to make it appear he was an American in 1980.

Many have questioned what country issued the passport on which AKA traveled, in 1981, to Pakistan. In the spring of 2008, the passport files of AKA, http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/21/ ... index.html Hillary Clinton and John McCain, held by the State Department, were breached. Two contractors were fire and a third disciplined. A key witness in this matter, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... ally-shot/ cooperating with "federal investigators", was found shot to death in his vehicle on April 19, 2008. The shooter has never been found.

Like his Occidental records, his Columbia University records have also been sealed. What we know is that no one, graduating the same year as AKA supposedly graduated from Columbia, can remember him, either in their class or in their classes; nor does he appear anywhere in the Columbia University year books. Reverend David Manning http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=6142 claims that the years AKA claims to have spent at Columbia were actually spent working for the CIA in Afghanistan. That Dr Manning has had his life threatened by "government types," following his voicing of these claims, lends credence to his claims. http://vodpod.com/watch/3315970-cia-vis ... econd-time

Equally so, AKA's years at Harvard are sketchy with no information forthcoming and his records sealed. Even though he was supposedly the first "black" president of the Harvard Law Review, the articles required of him as president of that prestigious publication don't seem to exist.

Then there is the claim that he was a Law Professor teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago. As it turns out, he was not a professor but a lecturer, big difference; that he was not well-liked by others who viewed his presence as politically connected. http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/03 ... title.html

Recently, more evidence has surfaced that brings into question AKA's eligibility. A video has surfaced of a speech given by Michelle Obama on August 26, 2008 at the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender (LGBT) Delegate Luncheon during the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado. Michelle Obama's speech was not "off the cuff." Why this is important is because of what she said.

The speech, approximately sixteen minutes in length, can be listened to, in its entirety, here. Toward the end of her presentation, Michelle Obama made the following remark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpgfrgBg8QU

"He has also spoken out against the stigma surrounding HIV testing, which is still plaguing so many of our communities, which you all know … a lot of that is due to homophobia. Barack has led by example. When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test … for the very point of showing folks in Kenya that there is nothing to be embarrassed about in getting tested." (emphasis added)

This, of course, makes it very apparent that Michelle Obama knows where AKA was born, and that it wasn't in Hawaii or even the United States. She has made similar remarks before. This lends credence to the claim of Obama's paternal step-grandmother, Sarah, that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya; that she was present at his birth.

This also comports with the comments of the Kenyan Ambassador to the United States, Peter Ogego, made to the hosts of the WRIF Mike in the Morning show out of Detroit, Michigan, on November 21, 2008, that AKA was born in Kenya. That conversation was recorded and can be listened to here. (Note: the original website for the Mike in the Morning show and audio transcripts no longer exists.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14

One can understand one or two anomalies or coincidences. Coupled with AKA's absolute refusal to produce his actual birth document, all of these anomalies are just a little too far beyond coincidence.

The Senators and Representatives have a fiduciary responsibility to investigate what American citizens have been turning up since November 4, 2008, in spite of AKA's (and the lamestream media's) attempt to squelch all questions concerning his eligibility; and the Senators and Representatives have a fiduciary responsibility to the people of the United States to remove AKA.

Richard Nixon was forced to resign under circumstances far less serious than being ineligible to the office of president, of being an illegitimate usurper in the Oval Office, occupying the White House.

What does this matter?

If the Constitution of the United States does not matter than neither does your freedom.

If the Constitution of the United States does not matter than neither does the rule of law.

But, if the Constitution of the United States does matter, than whether or not AKA is eligible to the office he holds also matters. If he is not eligible, then it is the duty of Congress to remove him. And if he is not eligible, all that he has done, since sworn into office on January 20, 2009 is null and void. And if he is not eligible, not only has he committed a crime but those who aided and abetted him have committed crimes against the American people.

Considering the AKA makes no bones that he is a Marxist, makes no bones about his intent to steal the freedom of the American people, if the Congress refuses to act, the American people are duty-bound to do so.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter185.htm

Conclusive evidence that Mr. Obama is not an American...

Originally Posted by the AP (?)

Barack Obama, who wore a Chicago White Sox hat while throwing out the first pitch
in Monday's [Washington] Nationals game, couldn't name a single White Sox player.

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[quote="Jim Delaney"][size=117]Obama, born in 1961 of a U.S. Citizen mother and a British Citizen (born in Kenya) father, [b]was born a “U.S. Citizenâ€

Great article Airborne!

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

BEYOND COINCIDENCE

By Lynn Stuter
April 6, 2010
NewsWithViews.com

Let us examine what we already know about the eligibility of Also Known As (AKA) Obama. We know that he claims to have been the child of Ann Dunham Obama and Barack Hussein Obama (Sr), a British subject at the time of AKA's birth. We only know what he claims as we have seen no proof.

We know that while AKA claims his birthplace as Hawaii, we don't know that is really true because, while AKA admits that his birth certificate exists — that is, the one issued at or near the time of his birth — all that anyone has seen are pictures of a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) supposedly issued in 2007, printed on a form established in 2001 and printed with a laser printer. We only know what he claims as no one, of authority, has actually seen, handled, or inspected what AKA contends is his COLB.

The state of Hawaii, while issuing COLB's in lieu of a certified copy of the actual birth document, has categorically refused to authenticate the document AKA claims is his authentic COLB. Likewise, the state of Hawaii has been unable/unwilling to produce any documents that would prove AKA actually requested a COLB, a prerequisite to obtaining a certified COLB.

We also know that the pictures that have turned up on the internet of the document AKA claims is his COLB have been photoshopped. We also know that pictures are not proof of the authenticity of a document; the only proof is in examination of the actual document which has not occurred.

We know that AKA claims he was a dual citizen at birth, of both U.S. and British citizenship which became Kenyan citizenship http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/d ... nship.html when Kenyan became independent of Great Britain. Of course, dual citizenship precludes his eligibility to the office of president of the United States under Article II, Section I, Clause 5, United States constitution, requiring he be "natural born". This clause was used by the Founding Fathers in reference to Vattel's Law of Nations, Part I, Chapter 19, Section 212, which states: http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/vattel/vatt-119.htm

"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."

This clause, of course, makes it clear that if Obama Sr is AKA's father, that AKA was a British subject at birth, then a citizen of Kenya when Kenya became independent of Great Britai, following his father's citizenship. This also comports with the British Nationality Act of 1948, http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm Part II, Section 5; much of which was repealed in 1981 but in force in 1961.

The contention has been made that AKA is a U.S. citizen by virtue of his birth in Hawaii to an American mother. Beyond the fact that if Obama Sr is his father, AKA would have followed the citizenship of his father, we do not know that he was born in Hawaii because we do not know that the COLB is authentic and we do not know that he actually was born in Hawaii. He says he way, but AKA has told so many lies, can we believe this is anything other than another lie?

We do know that under Act 96, http://books.google.com/books?id=0PjvG3BkcBAC Laws of the Territory of Hawaii, Regular Session of 1911, Special Session of 1909 and the Organic Act, in effect from 1911 until repealed in 1972, foreign-born children could be birth registered in Hawaii. We also know that Obama's supposed birth certificate number is out of sequence with babies born in the same time-frame; that his birth certificate number is after the birth certificate numbers of babies born after he was supposedly born. We also know that, if born in Hawaii, his name does not exist in the Hawaii birth index, in 1961, before or after. http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/26/ ... stigation/

All of this, of course, raises the specter of who registered his birth in Hawaii and where was he actually born. We know that no hospital in Hawaii has claimed title to his birth, not even the hospital where he now contends he was born, Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital. Only inspection of the actual birth document, the one that AKA has but refuses to provide for inspection, will reveal the facts.

Then there are the social security numbers that AKA has used; one issued in Connecticut and one issued in Michigan, neither a state he has ever lived in. These two social security numbers are tied to addresses where AKA is known to have lived in Chicago. True to nature, his mother also used social security numbers that were not hers, one belonging to a western Washington woman who is still living. We know that illegal aliens use social security numbers that are not theirs but that law-abiding American citizens don't need to.

Added in is the matter of AKA's adoption by Lolo Soetoro and his subsequent registration, on January 1, 1967, at the Fransiskus Assisi Primary School in Jakarta, Indonesia, as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen of Muslim faith. We know that in the divorce papers http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf of Ann Dunham Soetoro vs. Lolo Soetoro, Barack, then over the age of 18, no longer a minor, was listed as a dependent of Lolo Soetoro for the purposes of education. Since step-children are not the responsibility of a step-father, under divorce proceedings, this points to Barry Soetoro actually having been adopted by Lolo Soetoro, of his being an Indonesian citizen. That Barry was mentioned as a dependent of Lolo Soetoro for the purposes of education raises the specter that such was done so Barry Soetoro could receive aid as a foreign student to attend college or university in the United States. AKA's Occidental College records have been sealed, making it impossible to ascertain whether he received aid as a foreign student while attending there. If he did, it is obvious that he was not an American citizen when he attended there.

Beyond this, there has been no proof presented that Barry Soetoro, if even able to do so, reclaimed American citizenship.

And there seems to be a large discrepancy between AKA's Selective Service registration http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/201 ... Obama.html and support documents and other Selective Service registrations and support documents, also from Hawaii in the same time period. By all appearances, AKA's selective service documents have been altered or forged bringing further into question when those documents were actually submitted, in 1980 or in 2008.

As an American, AKA would have been required to register with the Selective Service in 1980; as a non-resident student going to school in the United States, he would not have been required to register. Further, if an American in 1980, if he did not register for the Selective Service in 1980, such would preclude him from ever holding a public office.

The anomalies in his Selective Service registration indicate one of three things: 1) he was not a citizen in 1980; or 2) he was a citizen in 1980 but did not register; or 3) his Selective Service registration was forged in 2008 to make it appear he was an American in 1980.

Many have questioned what country issued the passport on which AKA traveled, in 1981, to Pakistan. In the spring of 2008, the passport files of AKA, http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/21/ ... index.html Hillary Clinton and John McCain, held by the State Department, were breached. Two contractors were fire and a third disciplined. A key witness in this matter, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... ally-shot/ cooperating with "federal investigators", was found shot to death in his vehicle on April 19, 2008. The shooter has never been found.

Like his Occidental records, his Columbia University records have also been sealed. What we know is that no one, graduating the same year as AKA supposedly graduated from Columbia, can remember him, either in their class or in their classes; nor does he appear anywhere in the Columbia University year books. Reverend David Manning http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=6142 claims that the years AKA claims to have spent at Columbia were actually spent working for the CIA in Afghanistan. That Dr Manning has had his life threatened by "government types," following his voicing of these claims, lends credence to his claims. http://vodpod.com/watch/3315970-cia-vis ... econd-time

Equally so, AKA's years at Harvard are sketchy with no information forthcoming and his records sealed. Even though he was supposedly the first "black" president of the Harvard Law Review, the articles required of him as president of that prestigious publication don't seem to exist.

Then there is the claim that he was a Law Professor teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago. As it turns out, he was not a professor but a lecturer, big difference; that he was not well-liked by others who viewed his presence as politically connected. http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/03 ... title.html

Recently, more evidence has surfaced that brings into question AKA's eligibility. A video has surfaced of a speech given by Michelle Obama on August 26, 2008 at the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender (LGBT) Delegate Luncheon during the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado. Michelle Obama's speech was not "off the cuff." Why this is important is because of what she said.

The speech, approximately sixteen minutes in length, can be listened to, in its entirety, here. Toward the end of her presentation, Michelle Obama made the following remark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpgfrgBg8QU

"He has also spoken out against the stigma surrounding HIV testing, which is still plaguing so many of our communities, which you all know … a lot of that is due to homophobia. Barack has led by example. When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test … for the very point of showing folks in Kenya that there is nothing to be embarrassed about in getting tested." (emphasis added)

This, of course, makes it very apparent that Michelle Obama knows where AKA was born, and that it wasn't in Hawaii or even the United States. She has made similar remarks before. This lends credence to the claim of Obama's paternal step-grandmother, Sarah, that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya; that she was present at his birth.

This also comports with the comments of the Kenyan Ambassador to the United States, Peter Ogego, made to the hosts of the WRIF Mike in the Morning show out of Detroit, Michigan, on November 21, 2008, that AKA was born in Kenya. That conversation was recorded and can be listened to here. (Note: the original website for the Mike in the Morning show and audio transcripts no longer exists.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14

One can understand one or two anomalies or coincidences. Coupled with AKA's absolute refusal to produce his actual birth document, all of these anomalies are just a little too far beyond coincidence.

The Senators and Representatives have a fiduciary responsibility to investigate what American citizens have been turning up since November 4, 2008, in spite of AKA's (and the lamestream media's) attempt to squelch all questions concerning his eligibility; and the Senators and Representatives have a fiduciary responsibility to the people of the United States to remove AKA.

Richard Nixon was forced to resign under circumstances far less serious than being ineligible to the office of president, of being an illegitimate usurper in the Oval Office, occupying the White House.

What does this matter?

If the Constitution of the United States does not matter than neither does your freedom.

If the Constitution of the United States does not matter than neither does the rule of law.

But, if the Constitution of the United States does matter, than whether or not AKA is eligible to the office he holds also matters. If he is not eligible, then it is the duty of Congress to remove him. And if he is not eligible, all that he has done, since sworn into office on January 20, 2009 is null and void. And if he is not eligible, not only has he committed a crime but those who aided and abetted him have committed crimes against the American people.

Considering the AKA makes no bones that he is a Marxist, makes no bones about his intent to steal the freedom of the American people, if the Congress refuses to act, the American people are duty-bound to do so.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter185.htm

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

The original 1952 text, "ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years," is disappearing from the internet and being replaced with the 1994 text, "totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years." It appears that internet records of section 301(a)(7) in the 1952 law may be being scrubbed to match the revised text in the 1994 correction.

Can you find the original section 301(a)(7) from the 1952 act?

Minuteman, I suspect that old law books will reflect the correct 1952 text. Also, I've been corresponding with Prof. Lutz regarding his documents concerned with early citizenship, and here's what he said to me:

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Scattered throughout "Origins of American Constitutionalism" (LSU, 198, I discuss what it takes to become a member of the people.

Sincerely,

Donald Lutz

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Professor Lutz is referring to his book (available on Amazon.com), and there may be some overlap in his book with a Lutz collections document I uploaded to Scribd.com earlier this week:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29396074/Dona ... nstitution

I haven't had time to review and compare the material yet.

A COLB is not a BC and cannot be used as one for ID.

Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist

A COLB is not a BC and cannot be used as one for ID.

hardlineconstitutionalist, thank you for your interest and for your contribution. That sounds right; do you have a reference for it in the U.S. Code?

Take several hours to scan through the preceding 2770 entries. You're bound to learn some amazing facts that you could never have imagined. No one could make this stuff up.

My friend I have been writing about this for 3 years. I have/was working with Orly who would not listen to me in the beginning of all this and got labeled the "birther queen". I told her not to push the BC thing and go after the natural citizen issue. But she did not listen and it killed her politically as a nut case crack pot. Even now she will still call the COLB a birth certificate...I told her that all people hear is "he produced a birth certificate". She is a hard head! Sad really because much of this issue came to light because of her. But anyway... this site has some good stuff on it... the links go on forever now.

http://americangrandjury.org/barrack-ob ... pure-fraud

But if you want to read something that I find REALLYYYY interesting look at this:

http://americangrandjury.org/public/

vid on COLB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLDW4AUDKeM