Thread: Ron Paul on the Issues

Not a Snowballs Chance in Hell will we vote for another fake Plastic man ... for whatever reason America is Brain Washed from the 24 hour Corporate Media of a FALSE Left / Right Fase Paradigm that doesnt exist

This is Corporate Mafia; nothing more; nothing less

and this time ....

America is going to get EXACTLY what it deserves ... why... because you have been repeatedly warned

there is a differance this time from past elections

you are not going to get a chance and say I voted for the wrong person

This time; we are getting away from the Lunatics on the left and the right and there will be a major price for your mistake at the poll

Those that vote for these frauds that play the Shell Games; the 3 Card Monty... the WACKO's that say one thing and do the opposite; perform a head fake then throw America off into a Paranoid State of fear for a bigger power grab.... you deserve all that is coming

I and others REFUSE to pay for mistakes that others make; year after year after year after year

We have been fighting "Some of us for 10+ years of government" LUNACY

No More .... YOU ARE OFFICIALLY ON YOUR OWN

after this election... there is a price to pay; so be prepared to anti up

If you dont get it by now you never will

Bush is Obama; Obama is Bush; Romney is Obama; Obama is Romney ... heads the globalists win / Tails you lose

the only differance is the New Globalist Master will crack down harder than the one before .. Tyranny is being given to you in doses ... like a frog slowly being boiled .. you dont notice

so ... expect Romney to save you if you wish; the reality will catch up to you not long after the election and the New Boss will actually be worse than the old Boss

thats how Tyranny works

For Paul's true believers, a study in American optimism

By Dan Merica, CNN
updated 9:28 AM EDT, Thu April 26, 2012



Supporters of Rep. Ron Paul's third White House bid have remained loyal dispite his dwindling chances for the nomination.

Philadelphia (CNN) -- Darryl Williams and Benjamin Kline were shivering before the speech even started, their black umbrella no match for the steady rain and brisk Philadelphia wind. Even as water hit their faces, though, they were smiling, excited at the thought of seeing Ron Paul.
Williams and Kline are true believers. They are two men who in spite of political reality and weather still come out to support their "ideal candidate." They don't care that many have crowned Mitt Romney the presumptive nominee or that it is now mathematically impossible for Paul to win the Republican nomination before the convention. They just know who they support.
"We believe he is the best candidate," Williams said.
Not everyone agrees, though, and the electoral math is against the 12-term congressman from Texas. On Tuesday, Romney swept Paul in all five states that voted. And even if Paul were to win every single delegate from now until the convention he wouldn't be able to win the nomination, according to analysis by CNN Political Research Director Rob Yoon.
CNN Election Center: Ron Paul's vote totals
To Paul's most passionate followers, though, it doesn't matter that Paul has earned only an estimated 76 delegates (although his supporters challenge that number), compared with Romney's 841. It doesn't matter that Paul has yet to win a single state.
It doesn't matter, said Kline, "with or without [Paul], the movement is going to carry on."
Kline and Williams are just two of the hundreds of thousands of Ron Paul supporters across the country -- hairstylists, chiropractors, sailors and students -- who have been energized by the congressman from Texas' third run for the White House. Now, as his chances have all but evaporated -- he is still hoping to challenge the presumptive nominee Romney at the GOP convention in Tampa this summer, but party rules may not even allow his name on the ballot -- a core of fans continue to turn out at rallies, flood internet comment boards and gather in big cities and small towns, to keep the movement alive.
They still believe.
Paul has already announced that he is retiring from the House this year. If he fails to win the presidency, his political career, a career that started in the late 70s, is over. That has left his followers grappling with their unabashed support for the 76-year old doctor and their commitment to the movement.
Once a Democrat, now a Paul fan
Standing under an awning at the Philadelphia rally is Kathy Cahalan, a woman from Clearwater, Florida who for 33 years voted as a Democrat but was so moved by Paul that she re-registered as a Republican so she could vote for him this year. Though she voted for then-candidate Barack Obama in 2008, she said she regrets it now.
Cahalan one of a few people who follows the Paul campaign around the country, going to different events in different primary states.
Dave Wilcox, a 22-year veteran of the Navy, had met Cahalan earlier in the campaign. As they talk, a young group of supporters walk by chanting "End the Fed," a slogan that has become a staple at a Paul event.
To Wilcox and Cahalan, Paul has become the conduit for a message. Do they respect and admire him? Absolutely. But both say that the movement is bigger than him and will continue when he bows out of politics.
"We are trying to educate the GOP. That is the main message. Once we get back to the Constitution, it doesn't matter who the banner carrier is," Wilcox said, gesturing to the chanting students. "It could be anybody, as long as they hear this message."
Borderline hero worshipers
That attitude contrasts with the eager exuberance of Anastasios Hatzakos, a chiropractor from Easton, Penn.
Listening to Hatzakos talk about where he agrees with Paul is like listening to the candidate's greatest hits album. Ending the Fed, cutting the deficit, no foreign entanglements, repealing the National Defense Authorization Act -- Hatzakos mentioned all of them. He went on to say there is not one policy that he disagrees with Paul on.
Should he not make the ballot, Hatzakos said, "I would write him in. I would never vote for anyone else, because they are all the same."
While Paul's base is a wide spectrum of support, there are a number of people who would fall into the category of hero worshipers.
In an interview with CNN, Paul says that sort of support makes him uncomfortable.
"I think they over-praise me at times," Paul said. "I keep saying maybe they have been over starved because I don't see my qualifications quite the way they do. They over-praise. It makes me uncomfortable, but obviously it pleases me."
Though many see Paul as the figurehead attached to the movement, Paul says he sees his role in a lesser light.
"I am sort of like a spokesman for them," Paul said. "I don't call them followers. I call them partners in this because they understand the same thing that I understand."
The 'movement' will go on
And Paul believes it is a good thing that the future of the movement is open ended. He says that while he may have truly awakened the movement in 2008, it has been stirred decades ago.
"I don't think anyone knows where it is going and it is good that I don't know that," Paul said. He added that while the movement's future may be unknown, he feels validated by the fact that he draws large, politically diverse crowds in most places he goes.
"It verifies what I believe in, and I am convinced of, that freedom brings people together," Paul said. "How we use our freedom, your personal lifestyle may be different, but freedom brings us together."
Like other presidential candidates who have sparked intense passions before him -- Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, Barry Goldwater -- Paul supporters often take what he says as gospel.
Walking around a Paul campaign event is somewhat like a lesson in American political constituencies. Though Paul is a Republican with Libertarian ideals, many of his followers do not fit that mold. There are common Republicans and Democrats who find Paul engaging and of course you find Independents and Libertarians. But you also find a large group of people who identify as members of the Constitution Party, the Green Party and many with no party affiliation.
He has appealed to actor Vince Vaughn -- "his principles are based in fact and logic which is rooted in the foundation of America," said Vaughn -- and singer Kelly Clarkson -- "I love Ron Paul," tweeted Clarkson. Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura, an independent, said, "I want somebody that will shock the status quo, and Ron Paul will do that."
As the primary season rolls on and Paul is still looking for his first contest win, the odds of a Paul presidency look bleak. Paul is also up against an RNC rule, Rule 40, that states a candidate must have received a plurality of votes in five states in order to even be considered at the convention. Paul has yet to receive a plurality in one state.
If not Ron Paul, then who?
Last time around, on June 12, 2008, Paul dropped out of the 2008 presidential race, leaving his supporters to find another candidate. Though Paul went on to support the Rev. Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party, his followers dispersed -- some voting for Obama, some for McCain and some not at all.
Looking to the general election, Paul's supporters are skeptical of whom to vote for if Paul doesn't win the nomination.
"If tomorrow Ron Paul says, 'I changed my mind and let's go with Mitt Romney,' I will not do that," said David Chen, a hairstylist from Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
"I really can't say right now," said Daniel Osoreo, a graduate student at New York University. "It is a very difficult choice because I am very loyal to Dr. Paul."
Back near the stage, Williams and Kline are even more soaked than they were before. When asked about the political diversity in a Paul crowd -- his campaign enthusiastically estimated about 4,300 people were at the Philadelphia rally, but on the scene, it appeared the real number was about half that -- Williams says that is the point of Paul's appeal.
"We are too focused on dividing ourselves into little pockets," Williams said. "We are all hyphenated Americans rather than being just Americans. We focus too much on what makes us different."
In George Washington's farewell address, the first president touched upon a trend he was observing in American politics -- the formation of political parties. He saw America dividing into factions, so he warned against it.
"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissention, which in different ages & countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism," Washington said.
In the eyes of his supporters, Paul is now playing that role of checking the domination by one party over another.
"I think the fire he has ignited is still going to keep burning in the hearts of people who love liberty and this country and are really tired of both sides of the political spectrum behaving in such an extreme fashion," Williams concluded.
Even though the odds are long, the rain is hard and the nomination process is becoming a slog, Paul supporters have their candidate. They may vote for someone else if he drops out, but while Paul remains a presidential hopeful, hope will spring eternal.

For Paul's true believers, a study in American optimism - CNN.com

News: All Texas Speeches-Tonight: Austin-Friday: Houston

Submitted by John P. Slevin on Wed, 04/25/2012 - 08:09
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Texas

Vids/Pics/Articles on ALL Texas Cities at bottom of this post
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Speech Ended-7:45pm CST/RonPaulRadio estimates 5,500-6,000 easy!
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El Paso
AP has a short article before El Paso Speech
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El Paso SlideShow - Some great pics HERE
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El Paso Times-FANTASTIC SLIDESHOW from Daily Paul user "newsbuster"
Video: Short clip, enthusiastic crowd!
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Austin
Local article, before Paul's speech-Good Quote by Jesse Benton
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Houston

News: All Texas Speeches-Tonight: Austin-Friday: Houston | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

Ron Paul Wins Washington!

Submitted by Prescott4RonPaul on Thu, 04/26/2012 - 19:08
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Arizona

"Ron Paul's 2012 campaign has won the majority of Washington's delegates to the Republican National Convention, and a number of other states are expected to follow suit, pointing to a hectic convention in which Mitt Romney's path to the nomination may face a major insurgent opponent."

Ron Paul 2012 Wins Majority Of Washington Delegates To Convention, Other States Expected To Follow - International Business Times

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We're doing it people! May the flames of liberty ignite the true spirit of America in us all!

Ron Paul Wins Washington! | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

Freedom is Popular. Hypocrites are Hated. Socialism is Slavery

Ron Paul about to win Louisiana (but we need help)

Submitted by Matt Collins on Thu, 04/26/2012 - 16:29

The Louisiana State Director just called me to ask for me to get the Ron Paul NetRoots moving on this ASAP - we have less than 48 hours.
He told me we are about to win Louisiana, but that it could very well be a situation like Maine, where only a few dozen or couple of hundred votes make the difference. The Party down there is doing everything they can to stop us from winning the caucuses this Saturday. Things are stacked in our favor at the moment but we need an overwhelming victory to ensure that it will be impossible to be taken from us.

There are 2 things you can do specifically to help out:
1- If you know any Ron Paul supporters in Louisiana please tells us who they are. You can do that by going to www.RonPaulLA.com and submitting their information to the form titled "Submit A Supporter".

2- If someone needs to know the details of their caucus, time, location, etc, then they need to visit www.LouisianaVoter.com where they can get the needed information

3- Everyone in Louisiana needs to "vote for slate #7".

Remember the Republican Party STOLE the election in Louisiana from Ron Paul last time, let's make history and not let that happen again!

Ron Paul about to win Louisiana (but we need help) | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

Star Ledger: A Brit offer an analysis of the neocons vs. Ron Paul

Published: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 5:40 PM

By Paul Mulshine/The Star Ledger The Star-Ledger

(John O'Boyle/The Star-Ledger)Ron Paul campaigns with state Senator Mike Doherty in Trenton


H.L. Mencken long ago observed that the daily press in the United States is far inferior to that of other countries.

We certainly see that in the failure by just about every major media outlet to realize the difference between genuine conservatives and the adherents of that liberal internationalist philosophy known as "neo" conservatism.
Fortunately, the Brits can handle such obvious distinctions.

Here's an article in which writer Tim Stanley notes the obvious about the latest great neocon hope, Marco Rubio:

Rubio’s target is obvious: Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and those elements of the Tea Party Right that dissented on Libya. Given that it barely scraped 20 percent in most primaries, it’s amazing how much the Paulite revolt seems to have upset the Republican establishment. In fact, Rubio’s entire speech (and it’s a long one) reads like a step-by-step rebuttal of the Paulite critique of neoconservative foreign policy – the belief that America has a moral duty and a strategic interest to promote global democracy.

And this:

Nevertheless, it’s hard not to be troubled by Rubio’s all-encompassing vision of American hegemony. Especially if you’re not American. Another quote: “What happens all over the world is our business. Every aspect of [our] lives is directly impacted by global events. The security of our cities is connected to the security of small hamlets in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.”

Apparently, if some goatherd in the mountains of Afghanistan loses one of his flock to a landmine, the consequences for Topeka, Kansas could be terrible. The absurdity of the theory that literally every security problem in the world is a direct threat to the United States is but one example of Rubio’s naïveté. In his vision, America never makes mistakes and everyone loves it. Small nations regard the US as their protector against bigger nations, whose wickedness is irrational: “Other countries look apprehensively on the growing influence of newly emerging powers in their midst, and look to the U.S. to counterbalance them.”

That's a polite way of saying what is obvious to anyone paying attention: Rubio is an idiot, plain and simple. He seems to not have learned a thing from the fisacos in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And he is the worst sort of idiot, the type who poses as if personally courageous while proposing to lay the actual risk on others.

Aside from that, of course, there is the sheer mathematics of the situation. The reason the Republican establishment so fears Ron Paul is they know he's right. Even if we follow his advice and stop trying to run the world we won't be able to balance the budget in the foreseeable future under their projections.

They all claim they want to cut taxes. Yet they also claim they want to police every corner of the planet, as per Rubio. The two goals are irreconcilable.
Mitt Romney joins in the neocon rhetoric, but I suspect he's smart enough to know that it's just rhetoric. The next Republican president will have to adopt a foreign policy much more like Ron Paul's than Marco Rubio's.

Read the entire article to get a good glimpse of the lines of argument here - and how badly the talking heads of mainstream media fare at comprehending them. The exception of course is Pat Buchanan. As you can see, the writer has recently published a biography of Buchanan. I suspect that's where he got the comprehension of American history totally lacking among the neocons and the media.

A Brit offer an analysis of the neocons vs. Ron Paul | NJ.com

Ron Paul 2012 Wins Majority Of Washington Delegates To Convention, Other States Expected To Follow

Submitted by Henry Shivley on Thu, 04/26/2012 - 17:56
Delegates

Ron Paul's 2012 campaign has won the majority of Washington's delegates to the Republican National Convention, and a number of other states are expected to follow suit, pointing to a hectic convention in which Mitt Romney's path to the nomination may face a major insurgent opponent.

Washington is now the third state, after Iowa and Minnesota, in which Ron Paul has locked up at least half of the state's nominating delegates. In order to be officially entered in nomination at the Tampa, Fla., convention, he needs to secure half or more of the delegates in five states, and as of Thursday, he looks poised to grab a majority of delegates in other states like North Dakota and Maine in coming weeks.

Ron Paul's 2012 campaign has taken an unorthodox tack, hoping to draw state delegates to his camp rather than simply winning the popular vote. As such, he is stacking up delegates who once backed Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum and other fallen candidates.

And the strategy is not unprecedented. Warren G. Harding pulled off a surprise win at the 1920 Republican convention, where he eventually won the nomination despite heading in with the fewest delegates of any remaining candidate. And Harding went on to sweep into the White House.

Even Fox News said this week that Paul's presence on the ballot at the 2012 Republican National Convention in Tampa "looks inevitable at this point."
And if he makes it onto the ballot, Ron Paul's 2012 campaign has the chance to throw a wrench in the nominating process, proving all the critics wrong by having a huge impact on the Republican race instead of just fizzling out as has long been predicted.

Even if he doesn't end up with the GOP nod, Paul may be able to influence the proceedings in Tampa by changing the conversation and revamping the strategy in order to target Paulites and others who don't agree with Romney's policies.

The libertarian Texas congressman could also continue to remain relevant by running on a third-party ticket, an option he has not ruled out.

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/articles/...convention.htm

Ron Paul 2012 Wins Majority Of Washington Delegates To Convention, Other States Expected To Follow | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

Ron Paul University of Texas at El Paso 4/25/2012 (Full video)

Introduction:




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Huff Po article claims Ron Paul only raised $13,104 in March

Submitted by tamtamfreedom on Thu, 04/26/2012 - 19:04
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Ohio

This article is absolutely infuriating, complete and total BS, LIES, LIES, and more LIES. Pulling numbers out of thin air. It also talks about how Stephen Colbert's Super Pac has more money than Liberty Pac, blah, blah....please go here and set them straight.

I've already posted his totals for March at $2.6 million.

Stephen Colbert Super PAC Has More Money Than Ron Paul Super PAC

Huff Po article claims Ron Paul only raised $13,104 in March | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012