Thread: ALIPAC Calls for Arrest of Candidate Meg Whitman, Nicky Diaz

Immigrant is mystery figure in Cal governor's race



(10-01) 15:58 PDT Los Angeles, CA (AP) --

She is the mystery in the middle of the California governor's race.

Three days after Republican Meg Whitman's former maid accused her of knowing for years she was an illegal immigrant from Mexico, almost nothing is known about her.

Nicky Diaz Santillan — a 39-year-old mother of three — hasn't spoken a word in public since. She's left behind a trail of questions about her story and how she ended up as the client of a high-powered Los Angeles lawyer with Democratic ties.

Diaz Santillan hasn't answered a single question from reporters. No one answered the door Wednesday at an address listed for Diaz Santillan in a San Francisco suburb, and a phone number listed for the family has been disconnected.

Whitman denies the allegation




[color=darkblue][b]Attorney Gloria Allred, left, escorts Nicandra Diaz Santillan after a news conference at Allred's office in which she said Meg Whitman's former housekeeper was “exploited, disrespected, humiliated and emotionally and financially abused.â€

WOW!! Looks like Nicky really is 4 foot 5 inches tall, Allred who is petit towers over her!!

Originally Posted by imblest

Originally Posted by JackMcIntosh

If Whitman did in fact comply with the law and did not know that this woman was illegal because she had been given false documentation then she has not committed a crime...period.
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Sorry to insist that proper procedure be followed, but I believe in the law...NOT LYNCH MOBS!

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Maybe I'm wrong and it's not intentional, but your extremist reaction is introducing prejudice into this that will without a doubt be to the benefit of Jerry Brown and his bid for the Governorship...can you honestly tell me that you're not aware of that.

Enforce the law yes, but follow the proper legal procedure while you're doing it and frankly, you're position ignores the investigation and jumps straight to the arrest and destroys any claims of impartiality or moral superiority you might try to make.

If you really believe in the law, then you should trust the process...that is the most glaring weakness in your opinion.

As an employer, Whitman has an obligation and responsibility to do her due diligence in hiring an employee, or in deciding what agency to use to do her hiring for her. If she were any other employer found with illegals in her employ, she would already be in very deep trouble!

I never heard any call to LYNCH anyone--that is inflammatory language! ALIPAC is calling for the government to do what they would normally do. It's obvious that the illegal was in Whitman's employ, and there whould be a deep investigation into that fact. If that requires an arrest to get that kind of investigation, then so be it. The fact remains that anyone NOT in power would already be arrested or, at the least, would be undergoing intensive grilling by the authorities. It's high time that our elected officials and the wealthy powerful in our society answered for their actions like the rest of us would be required to do. If she's exonerated, then fine, but that may be best decided be a jury and a court!

I'm sure William is perfectly aware of how this may affect the gubernatorial race in CA, BUT ALIPAC MUST BE CONSISTENT. If we are calling for the arrest of illegal immigrant law breakers, then we must also call for the arrest of America law breakers.

We as a nation have to realize that we MUST hold our politicians accountable, no matter what party they happen to belong to. CA has unethical, liberal candidates for governor because this is what they have tolerated for so long. It's up to the citizens of CA to get in there and FIGHT for good candidates. It takes a long time to turn the huge ship of state around, but it can be done!

As for trusting the process, how's that working out for us in the illegal immigration fight? Not so hot, as far as I can see. I believe we must often push our officials to do the right thing, just as we are trying to get them to enforce our immigration laws. It's a matter of being consistent in asking for laws to be enforced. Either our laws matter, or they don't. Which is it?

Okay, so "William" is aware of how this will impact the Governors race..I never doubted that for a second and I'm sure grabbing some attention and getting his name out there in the middle of this was never even a consideration

Holding politicians accountable and calling for the arrest of a candidate for Governor at this late date in the race are two different things.

You don't trust the process, that's fine, but what does that leave us...hot heads spouting off when it's convenient for their cause and demanding that someone be arrested even before there is evidence to support an arrest?

Like I said...lynch mob.

The Real Housekeeper of California

Look, she's never been a beloved candidate. Even Meg Whitman's supporters have never really been able to get excited about her. For most of them she may simply be the only ideological game in town. The rest are likely more blinded by the endless array of ads bought with her personal fortune than they are dazzled with her promise as a leader. What's truly astonishing is that this woman is literally trying to purchase an election and the best she can get is layaway. Up against Jerry Brown, a septuagenarian fixture in California politics, she casts herself as the fresh face in this race and she's not only significantly behind him in the polls, but she actually comes across as the stodgy, self-entitled insider to his scrappy, fighter-for-the-people.

That was all before the remarkable events of the past two days. This is a woman who has campaigned heavily on getting tough with employers who hire undocumented workers and then yesterday, incredibly, we learn that she was one of them! She had an undocumented immigrant working in her house for nine years.

It's not like Meg Whitman's problems with hypocrisy are new. Since the beginning of her campaign, she's been forced to answer questions about the uncomfortable fact that when she casts a vote for herself in a few weeks it'll be the very first time she sets foot in a voting booth! She wants Californians to come to the polls on her behalf and yet she's never deigned to go and vote herself?

Whitman has an ad in which she says that other politicians don't realize how serious the unemployment situation is because "they don't see it every day." However, she declares, "I see it every day." Sure, Whitman sees unemployment every day. That's because she shipped 40% of eBay's jobs overseas! The California Labor Federation called her a "serial outsourcer."

I love California. I've been here for twenty years and I won't ever live anywhere else. The state is as vast as it is varied, but there is a common theme that this is a place where anything is possible. Even if you spend $120 million dollars of your own money, you can still lose.

I came across an interesting older article.

Is There an “Evilâ€

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Originally Posted by JackMcIntosh

Originally Posted by lccat

JackMcIntosh wrote:

"BTW...I could care less who wins in California. I've been an active democrat for a couple of decades, but I find myself at odds with the current party leadership and the policies of the current administration. "

Are they not progressive enough for you or are they not moving fast enough?

As far as I'm concerned the current democratic leadership has made the word "progressive" a slur.

To me a "progressive" is an extremist more concerned about an agenda than our constitution or our personal liberties.

They've fallen into the trap of "group think" and ideological conformity that they used to accuse the conservatives of.

I live in Indiana...what passes for a "liberal" here is generally considered way too conservative by today's democratic party.

I'm liberal on some issues, very conservative on others and because of it...usually not welcome in either camp for long.

Yea right Jack. Asking the authorities to put these violations in court to accurately determine guilt and innocence is a "lynch mob" tactic.

I try to be respectful to everyone, but your outlandish claims that our call for Whitman and Diaz to be arrested is comparable to some vigilante crowd ready to hang an innocent black man from a tree is the exact kind of disgusting hyperbole that has made people sick of Democrats and liberals.

There are many great Democrats in America that side with us on immigration enforcement, but the tactics you are trying to use here wreak of the lowest political denominators.

Your pretenses that you understand the system and values we are discussing are destroyed and your hypocrisy is clear for all to see.

How dare you compare me, anyone here, or any fine American that simply disagrees with you on an issue to a murderous mob ready to hang someone with a rope from a tree.

Get out of here Jack. You have nothing to offer us or this debate. Go crawl back under whatever troll rock you were under before you decided to disgrace this honorable forum with your filth.

You are nothing but a childish name caller that thinks if you insult others they will back down. You will find that using those stunts here will get you more of what you don't want Jack.

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Uhmmm...William...take a deep breath and exhale slowly...

You're the big guy on this block and you're obviously not used to anyone standing up to your bullying tactics, but you don't have a monopoly on patriotism and despite you cries of righteous indignation...you don't have a clue what you're talking about either.

I support enforcing our immigration laws too, but unlike you I do believe due process has its place.

If an investigation reveals evidence that Whitman should be charged with a crime then she should be charged...if and when...not before.

That's the way it works. I'm sorry, but I didn't make the rules...I just like to see them followed.

If you had your way (which you won't) simply being accussed would result in incarceration and that's not what America is all about...at least not the America that the rest of us live in.

I admit that I am confrontational. I think your position is infintile and self serving and I don't believe in "playing nice".

You're wrong on this one and attacking me isn't going to change that.

If Whitman was never the least bit suspicious within that 9 year period...............she's either senile or just plain stupid!

With that, it would be best if she was kept clear of the Governor seat...or any public office seat for that matter.

JackMcIntosh wrote,

Holding politicians accountable and calling for the arrest of a candidate for Governor at this late date in the race are two different things.

What does the "late date" have to do with anything?

I do not care if it is Nutmeg, Wonder Boy, or Joe Blow from Idaho, until I can get a card to put in my wallet that allows me to speed up and down the highway and get a free pass, I would hope for equal justice...........no matter what the "date" happens to be.

Why make such a big deal out of a woman (Not a very smart one at that. Just look at the "late date." JMO) that happens to be a billionaire, ex-CEO of a major corporation, not just any corporation mind you, a technology corporation, thus vulnerable in many areas of her life, and she does not have a thorough background done on a employee so close to her family, business and self, and running for office and you just think all is honky-dory?

Jack you sound like you are POed and looking for "Change"...........in all the wrong places.

Chill out Dude. It does not matter what idiot wins out there,......I am willing to bet you will still get your constellation prize.

Time to hold their feet to the fire Jack. You hold her feet, I'll get the torch.

mkfarnum wrote,

If Whitman was never the least bit suspicious with in that 9 year period..

Yup. That about sums it up. Either incompetent or a liar.

I feel for you folks out there in California. No choice in 2008, and now you end up with Dunder and Blunder to choose from after a Kindergartner Cop.

"JackMcIntosh" wrote:
Uhmmm...William...take a deep breath and exhale slowly...

You're the big guy on this block and you're obviously not used to anyone standing up to your bullying tactics, but you don't have a monopoly on patriotism and despite you cries of righteous indignation...you don't have a clue what you're talking about either.

I support enforcing our immigration laws too, but unlike you I do believe due process has its place.

If an investigation reveals evidence that Whitman should be charged with a crime then she should be charged...if and when...not before.

That's the way it works. I'm sorry, but I didn't make the rules...I just like to see them followed.

If you had your way (which you won't) simply being accussed would result in incarceration and that's not what America is all about...at least not the America that the rest of us live in.

I admit that I am confrontational. I think your position is infintile and self serving and I don't believe in "playing nice".

You're wrong on this one and attacking me isn't going to change that.

As a former SoCal resident, I understand your situation about being caught between a rock and a hard place. They are so many pro-illegal State and local Represnatives
, it's something that can't be avoided.

Let's say that Whitman won the election and then it was proven in court that she did break the US immigration Law by having clear knowlege that Diaz was in this country illegally when hired.

What would you do or say and how would you feel?
Would you regret that you voted for a person that supports illegal immigration?