Thread: The New Definition of a Racist

Originally Posted by thelmahopkins

the plaque on the statue of liberty is from a poetry contest made long after the statue was given to the us.

Nonsense. The poem, "New Colossus," from which the "Give me your tired..." excerpt comes from was written in 1883 ... and the Statue of Liberty wasn't even finished until 1886. In fact, the poem was sold at an auction to raise funds to complete construction of the statue's pedestal. The "bronze plaque" commemorating the poem went on display in 1903 ... but the poem itself was written 20 years earlier.

Originally Posted by thelmahopkins

it is bad poetry. it is not United states law. some wierd woman wrote it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (grin). I always liked it, myself. And, I know it's not the "law" ... but I do appreciate the sentiments.

Originally Posted by thelmahopkins

shouldnt you be calling you're senators?

Thelma, I contact Wyden/Smith so often they probably know me on a first name basis ... and not just about immigration reform.

Originally Posted by thelmahopkins

Did you read the bill and see that it not only legalizes the 20 million illegals but allows for 25 million more people . ?????????

What makes you think I support either figure? I support ZERO illegals and the current quota (roughly 700,000) for legals. No more, no less.

Originally Posted by thelmahopkins

I think you are new and need to do some reading.

I think you are presumptuous and have no idea how much I read.

Originally Posted by thelmahopkins

ps Kenyans ie africans - did you know that they rip off the genitals of their female children when they reach puberty and then sew them up so they are in pain the rest of thier life?

They??? Which they ... all Kenyans or some Kenyans? Maybe you need to do some reading.

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We harbor no disrespect toward immigrants, rather we believe that it is the quantity of immigration to America and Oregon which is straining our environmental, fiscal, and social structures. Oregonians For Immigration Reform is committed to working toward the establishment of lower immigration numbers.

I'd agree with that statement only if it read this way:
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We harbor no disrespect toward immigrants, rather we believe that it is the quantity of illegal immigration to America and Oregon which is straining our environmental, fiscal, and social structures. Oregonians For Immigration Reform is committed to working toward the establishment of lower illegal immigration numbers.

I am inclined to agree with the mission statement of the site. Right now, the immigration laws are so skewed that they are part of the reason there are so many illegals here. I'd say we should definitely not INCREASE the number of immigrants who will be allowed to come here and, until we get the illegals out, perhaps we should DECREASE it.

Originally Posted by JuniusJnr

I am inclined to agree with the mission statement of the site. Right now, the immigration laws are so skewed that they are part of the reason there are so many illegals here. I'd say we should definitely not INCREASE the number of immigrants who will be allowed to come here and, until we get the illegals out, perhaps we should DECREASE it.

I think we're fundamentally in agreement. Immigration laws ARE skewed and, yes, that's part of the reason there are so many illegals here. What we need is an ironclad and uniform law that spells things out in black and white - with no ifs, buts, or maybes in tow. In addition, we'd need the will and the funding to enforce it. And, I think I'd agree to a decrease in legal immigration that equals the percentage of our national legal population increase. In fact, if such a decrease was legislatable (is that a word, hehe), I'd like to see it continue until, say, we reached our 1921 quota level (roughly 500,000).

But the larger issue of population will have to be addressed somehow. Every strata of human society is procreating ... not just immigrants in the USA. Stopping ALL immigration merely avoids the larger issue that will someday have to be addressed (and I'm at a loss to figure out how it could be addressed "legally") ... unless we did what China does. In the US, having more kids means getting an "extra tax deduction." In China, it means getting an "extra tax liability."

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Answerman you must be great at trivial pursuit and a damned good speller to boot. Point is the poem inscribed on the big statue given to us by the French is Victorian era babble. Not law. It has no more meaning for me than the rules posted at the entrance of the matterhorn ride at Disneyland. It's certainly not justification for us to voluntarily join the 3rd world. If your liberal/conservative sensitivities are stirred by my grammar or spelling keep it to your moderate self.

Originally Posted by andyt

Answerman you must be great at trivial pursuit and a damned good speller to boot. Point is the poem inscribed on the big statue given to us by the French is Victorian era babble. Not law. It has no more meaning for me than the rules posted at the entrance of the matterhorn ride at Disneyland.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I like the poem.

Originally Posted by andyt

It's certainly not justification for us to voluntarily join the 3rd world. If your liberal/conservative sensitivities are stirred by my grammar or spelling keep it to your moderate self.

Nah, I think I'll keep my opinions public. Whether you like them or not is OK by me either way. By the way, the name of this PAC is:

Americans For Legal Immigration

...not...

Americans For No Immigration

Are you sure you belong to the right PAC?

My problem with the poem on the statue is that some use it in their arguments for open borders.
As for your last question I'm starting to wonder myself.
By the way why is your logo a penguin? Are you such a tight a--ed pedant that you waddle when you walk.
No reply necessary. I'm not that interested.

by the way- answerman ) I spoke with the leader of the oregon for immigration reform group for about 30 minutes on sunday night. Jim Ludwick retired early so he could fight this cause - for his grandchildren. He came across as sane - intelligent and very dedicated. This is why I took issue with your dismissal of an organization simply because one word in their mission statement bothered you.
TO come on board on a week that is this pivotal and argue about the merits of immigration - dismissing two major groups : www.numbersusa.com and oregonir.org is hardly a good manner in which to introduce yourself to the board.
and advocating Kenyans as outworking mexicans et all.. welll- golly gee whiz let's bring back slavery - if all an immigrant has to do to come here is to work themselves to death.
I kinda thought the United States was created for freedom of thought and liberty-