Thread: We have lost.

First thing Monday morning; Go to your 401k administrator or HR department and reallocate 100% of your 401k withholdings into, money market funds and precious metals funds.

Originally Posted by Bowman

Originally Posted by sherbug

Keep writing and emailing your Congressman and Senators and let them know you mean business.

I am past writing and calling.

All I want to do now is march in the streets.

I want billboards pointing out the traitors.

I will pass out flyers door to door for any candidate that supports enforcing the laws and no amnesty, even if it is a third party candidate.

I think this is what it will take.

Anybody here with me?

I think both efforts are important.

After another round of contacting Congresscritters on this and that for about one year on illegal alien matters, this is the first time the majority have: (a) record numbers of hold/wait times to speak to a staff member (up to five minutes at least; (b) the most times once they hear my opening sentence that I'm opposed to any guest worker program/ amnesty for illegal aliens that I'm cut off and immediately connected to a voice mail message system; and (c) Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton I could never get through to. Kennedy's DC number I let ring for a very long time. Nobody ever answered. Clinton's DC number after many rings a voice mail answered saying a staffer would be with me shortly. When an actual human being answered I didn't have a chance to deliver my message because I was then redirected to another line I suppose where I heard the phone ring for a very long time, then the line was disconnected I think with a busy signal.

It took several tries before I could even get through to Frist's and McCain's offices, as well as some others since I contacted numerous Congresscritters.

I think this is a great sign that Senators are being overwhelmed with calls from an angry American public.

Yes, marches are important too and other public events against illegal immigration and I've attended at least four since and including last January in my State of NC. So far, any of the public events I've attended met with zero or minimal opposition. Even if they had met with angry opposition, I still would have attended if it could have been known in advance.

Those calls, faxes and emails are really getting through to Senators I believe.

Handing out flyers is important too as well as letting everyone you know, know about this issue.

We have to win this with more than one tactic. Still, those communications (and especially the phone calls) to Congress are very important.

Originally Posted by americansunite

People we have lost. The senate is going to pass their bill and like Lou said today what idiot would admit that they have been here less than 2 years. In the next 10 years we will have more than 30 million and after that the next 10 years we will have 50 million. Then I guess after it's too late they will try to do something after making over half the population of Mexico American citizens. They have billboards in Spanish and we the poor people of America will have to assimilate and learn Spanish whether or not we like it. We have lost because Americans don't care until it's too late. And in 20 years it will be too late.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ! We have not LOST ! That's defeatist talk. We will not allow ourselves to feel hopeless. Instead we will get stronger and more determined. Our founding fathers' blood still runs in our veins. Most of us still remember AMERICA and not even unethical politicians will sway us from our resolve. We will just continue to chip away, bit by bit, letter by letter. Thomas Jefferson said "One man with courage is a majority." I'm sure he meant "One woman" as well.

The illegal opposition is running scared and making loud noises. They know we have the home team advantage. The rest of the country may still be snoozing, but once they come out of their comfortable cocoons there will be an immense shout across the land to drown out all the "si, se puede" and "viva la raza" racket. In the meantime take it one day at a time, one skirmish, one protest, one letter, one phone call. It may not seem like much but it's all cumulative. And it all counts.

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds "- Samuel Adams

Originally Posted by nittygritty

Mamie, as far as I am concerned you can quote that "the Crisis" as many times as you want to, it galvanizes me!

thank you, when I get discouraged I always give it a look -- I should have it memorized by now!

Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth

I am going to go out on a limb here. I personally believe in God and I do not know how many here share that belief, I'm not asking people to do something they do not want to, but for those people who do, make a commitment to pray each day(eastern time 12 noon, central time 1pm, mountain time 2pm and pacific time 3pm).

Obviously what I am saying is to pray for a miracle and for our leaders to stand up for what Americans want, our laws enforced, borders secured and employers breaking the laws fined. It can happen, if we who choose to are consistent.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm in this fight because this is exactly where God put me and I had to go over some rough ground to get here ...

This battle for America is by no means over. It hasn't even really gotten going yet. Monday the Prez will be speaking to the country, so here are some things to keep in mind:

Is the speech on "immigration?" We got his attention!

Is the speech in English? We're still in control!

Does he try to make concession like "Troops on the Border?" We made some progress!

Does he still insist on amnesty and guest workers? We still have to fight!

JustSayNo is correct: remember our forefathers, when the going got tough -- the tough got going!! LET'S ROLL!!!!!

It aint over yet. Bush is a lame duck, whatever he says on monday is meaningless. He cannot be trusted, he is givivg away our country while brave Americans fight & sacrifice in IRAQ.

sickening.

Hello Sonar, welcome!! You got that right, his speech will be meaningless, more BS to try to keep us in line. Someone must have told him to go out there and give a speech on illegal immigration. Maybe Vincente Fox told him to do it!!!

KICK.......you hit on it

Think about the coordination here:

1. Fox in Idaho
2. Bush speach Monday
3. Protest in DC
4. numerous lawsuits from communist/socialist organs at local governments
and...............the best yet........
5. TROOP ON THE BORDERS appeasement

Hey.......think that adds up to PLANNED?

I personally believe in God and I do not know how many here share that belief, I'm not asking people to do something they do not want to, but for those people who do, make a commitment to pray each day(eastern time 12 noon, central time 1pm, mountain time 2pm and pacific time 3pm).

I'm with you on this AmericanElizabeth. Will it help? Sure can't hurt and like you say, it's a great stress reliever.

I'd just like to add my 2 cents here. I see people feeling discouraged so I feel like I should tell you what I am seeing here in the "Barrio". An illegal aquaintance told me he's buying a ticket to return to Mexico for good. WHY? Because he feels its going to get harder and harder here. When I asked about the bill in the Senate they are supposed to pass - he told me it was "just like a telenovela" - that they are just keeping us all on the edge of our seats waiting to see what will happen next. He doesn't believe they will pass anything to allow illegals to stay here.

He also pointed out how few illegals are out in the streets now. He said people are scared to come out much. The "Bailes" the dances are not full like they usually are. He said a family he knows is selling their house so they can go home to Mexico ASAP.

There seem to be some who are seeing the move to troops on the border and the tougher enforcement all over the country as very discouraging developments.