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06-11-2018, 12:02 AM #61
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Under the alleged fairtax, a monthly check is sent to every qualified household which may be used by the household as it pleases. The necessities of life are not exempt from the alleged "fairtax". By contrast, our founders intended that the necessities of life would not be taxed.
The FairTax eliminates the burden of reporting income, the invasion of disclosing all your personal life to the government, the cost of compliance, the cost of returns, the risks of making mistakes, the cost of the mandated tax itself, the reduction in earnings, the loss to expendable income siphoned off the top and sucked into the government before it even gets to work and multiply in our economy, the enormous cost to businesses, the double taxation, the mandates of being forced by the government to pay tax when they want you to pay it, sometimes even when you don't have it to pay, it's called phantom income, income on paper that's taxable but no cash to write a check on to pay it. The income tax is evil. The FairTax is not. The FairTax is as perfect a tax plan as I've ever seen, absolutely brilliant, but there may be things that people want to change before it passes Congress, and I'll probably have no problem with those, but I wouldn't mess too much with it, because it solves or helps to solve all types of problems including trade and immigration issues.
I started this thread about the FairTax and Trade because it would solve so many of our trade deficit issues without any squabbles or confrontations with foreign governments over the deficits. They might still squabble about unfair tariffs and intellectual property theft, dumping and currency manipulation, but meanwhile, our manufacturers would be roaring back home, building new plants and expanding existing ones, with the most competitively priced products on the world market and our trade deficits would disappear very quickly in due course without conflicts, with or without a Rebate. The Rebate is irrelevant to the issue of FairTax and Trade. The Rebate is relevant to the issue of the FairTax and Illegal Immigration. I'll start a thread on that one later next week after the Summit.A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
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06-11-2018, 02:51 AM #62
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If it doesn't have anything to do with them, how can they function? Generally, qualifications for such programs are bases in documented income. Since the FairTax does away with income tax, their is nothing to use for qualification.
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06-11-2018, 02:54 AM #63
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06-11-2018, 03:34 AM #64
Income tax returns aren't used to verify income for welfare, not even food stamps. Tax returns are a year old by the time they're filed and only apply to the previous year, not the present when you apply for welfare. Maybe you're confusing mortgage applications that usually ask for income tax returns, but they don't ask for those to verify income, they ask for them to verify tax compliance so the IRS won't steal the house after they put a mortgage on it for unpaid taxes.
There are very few "embedded" federal taxes outside of federal income tax. Some tariffs, imposts and duties, and a few excise taxes, all very small potatoes in the scheme of federal revenues.
We're not talking about state, municipal or county taxes. The federal government has no finger in those pies, but that's such the typical Anti-FairTax Lobby argument, calling people liars when they're talking about federal taxes and you want to chat about state and local taxes, as if Americans are so stupid they don't know the difference. Americans know the difference between federal income tax, gas tax and state and local taxes. In FACT, under the FairTax, it will all be on the same receipt when they make a purchase, federal, state and local sales tax, all broken down for them every time they buy something.
I can see you're in love with your evil federal income tax. You've lived blind-folded on that DemoQuack biotch for so long you're hooked on it harder than a Heroin Addict on Oxy. That's makes you part of the problem, not part of the solution.Last edited by Judy; 06-11-2018 at 03:39 AM.
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06-11-2018, 07:15 AM #65
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I'll start a thread on that one later next week after the Summit."The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**
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06-11-2018, 07:30 AM #66
Judy, why are you misrepresenting the alleged "fairtax"?
Judy,
What you say above is not true. You are misrepresenting the alleged "fairtax".
Under the alleged "fairtax", a 23 percent tax is added to the cost of food, clothing, medical needs, etc., and everyone who purchases these products when they go to the store pay the tax, and that includes poor working people. To alleviate the devastating increase in the cost of the necessities of life for poor working people, which the alleged fairtax adds to these products, qualified families are entitled to a monthly government check which can be used to pay the outrageous 23 percent tax on a rationed supply of necessities. This of course not only creates a new entitlement, but also makes poor working folks dependent upon government for a monthly check which can be used to pay the outrageous 23 percent tax on a rationed supply of necessities.
Under our Constitution's original tax plan, the necessities of life were not intended to be taxed, nor was there any monthly government check sent to the poor to be used to purchase the necessities of life.
Tell us, Judy, under the alleged fairtax and its family consumption entitlement, how many more “poor working people” would have a vested interest in voting for progressives, socialists and communists during election time who would promise to work to increase the family consumption entitlement? Is this not how Fifth Column members of Congress stay in power in our nation’s poorest voting districts ____ by offering their constituency free government cheese?
Tell us Judy, why are you so eager to create another entitlement, which would help our Fifth Column members in Congress to remain in power by promising our nation’s poor during each election time to alter the fairtax and enlarge the family consumption entitlement?
JWK
There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country.
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06-11-2018, 10:48 AM #67
Johnwk wrote:
Under the alleged "fairtax", a 23 percent tax is added to the cost of food, clothing, medical needs, etc., and everyone who purchases these products when they go to the store pay the tax, and that includes poor working people. To alleviate the devastating increase in the cost of the necessities of life for poor working people, which the alleged fairtax adds to these products, qualified families are entitled to a monthly government check which can be used to pay the outrageous 23 percent tax on a rationed supply of necessities. This of course not only creates a new entitlement, but also makes poor working folks dependent upon government for a monthly check which can be used to pay the outrageous 23 percent tax on a rationed supply of necessities.A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
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06-11-2018, 10:49 AM #68A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
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06-11-2018, 11:21 AM #69"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**
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06-11-2018, 11:50 AM #70
MW, you offend a lot of Republicans with your rude attacks on me and the FairTax. Personally, I don't think that's wise.
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