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06-13-2018, 08:54 PM #161
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But you are pushing it in any thread you can work it in, sort of like "product placement" in movies and TV shows.
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06-13-2018, 09:15 PM #163A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
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06-13-2018, 09:36 PM #164
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06-13-2018, 09:52 PM #165
Sigh. Is it true that I'm the only one who knows the story of the corporate excise tax of 1909 that Johnwk continues to wail about? Wow. I must say, I'm impressive.
Twiddle Dee. Twiddle Dum.
Rebates. Refunds.
Deductions. Reductions.
Corporate Excise. Corporate Income.
Twiddle Dee, Twiddle Dum.
No More Ho Hum.
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06-14-2018, 01:03 AM #167
Twiddle Dee. Twiddle Dum.
Rebates. Refunds.
Deductions. Reductions.
Corporate Excise. Corporate Income.
Twiddle Dee, Twiddle Dum.
No More Ho Hum.
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06-14-2018, 07:27 AM #168
Yes, Judy, according to the Court’s written opinion, the 16th Amendment seems to have made no material change to Congress’ taxing powers. The Amendment merely confirms Congress may lay and collect taxes on “incomes” without having to apportion the tax ___ a power apparently possessed by Congress from the beginning. But note, the Amendment does not say Congress may lay and collect “direct” taxes on incomes without having to apportion them. The Flint case, which I provided a link to, explains in detail how Congress’ was able to lay and collect a tax on incomes, prior to the adoption of the 16th Amendment, without having to apportion the tax. The tax in Flint turns out to be an indirect tax on a privilege granted by government and did not have to be apportioned, while the amount of tax to be paid is calculated from profits and gains realized under the privilege.
Under the alleged fairtax, Congress gets to impose a 23 percent tax on articles of consumption; gets to impose a 23 percent tax on the sale of labor; and maintains its power to lay and collect excise taxes calculated from profits and gains which ___ as in the Corporate Excise Tax of 1909 ___ turns out to be an income based tax.
The ugly truth is, the alleged “FairTax” does not eliminate income based taxes. But it does create two new taxes and two new government agencies to be used to tighten the iron fist of our federal government around the necks of the American people and their businesses.
Why do you support such tax tyranny?
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06-14-2018, 02:48 PM #169
The corporate excise tax of 1909 was replaced with the corporate income tax in 1913 and hasn't existed in the US for 105 years.
The FairTax repeals the federal corporate income tax and all other federal income based taxes that are part of the Internal Revenue Act of 1986 and replaces that revenue with a 23% national retail sales tax on new goods and services, offers a Rebate for necessities for those citizens and legal residents who want to sign up for it, pays retailers to collect the tax from the consumer at the final point of sale and pays states who want to sign on to collect from the retailers.
I do not see it as tyranny. I see the income tax as tyranny. I also just prefer this very simple non-intrusive method of collecting revenue to fund the federal government. I see it as more efficient, more prompt, and better for the economy. I see it as helpful to fixing our trade deficits and curbing illegal immigration because it gives advantages to US producers over foreign-producers and American Workers over illegal aliens. It also discourages urban sprawl which promotes land conservation by encouraging redevelopment of existing homes and structures because it exempts used goods including homes and condos. It preserves if not increases the value of other used goods as well, such as vehicles and helps those who want a new car to retain higher trade in or resell value on their existing vehicle they want to trade in or sell so they can buy a new one, which encourages earlier turn over, more new car sales, and more lower mileage used vehicles in better condition for people who need to buy a used vehicle because they can't afford a new one. It also shuts down all these phony 501 C 3 "charity" frauds because under the FairTax, they're they're treated the same as any other business. And it robustly funds SS and Medicare to rebuild and maintain the Social Security Trust Fund for retired workers.
The FairTax is without question the single most important economic development legislation of our lifetimes, with or without the Rebate, with or without a repeal of the 16th Amendment, or whether it's called the FairTax or a National Retail Sales Tax or Consumption Tax.
I don't understand or agree with people who see it differently. That's just the way it is. I've been on this issue since I was a young girl in college and nothing I've seen, heard, read or experienced has changed my mind one bit about the urgent need to convert our tax system to a national retail sales tax. 70,000 lost factories, $800 billion a year in lost trade in goods, $22 trillion in national debt, 30 million illegal aliens roaming our land proves that beyond any doubt at all.Last edited by Judy; 06-14-2018 at 03:18 PM.
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06-14-2018, 07:22 PM #170
Judy wrote (excerpt):
The FairTax is without question the single most important economic development legislation of our lifetimes, with or without the Rebate, with or without a repeal of the 16th Amendment, or whether it's called the FairTax or a National Retail Sales Tax or Consumption Tax.Last edited by MW; 06-14-2018 at 10:43 PM.
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