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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    do you have any idea how many Americans are killed by an ILLEGAL ALIEN'S on a DAILY basis (25)... thats 25 people that were killed by someone that shouldnt even be here in this country... no my friend ...you are trying to mix apples and oranges and I think your post is going to get thumped on when people read into what you are trying to say
    I am not defending illegal alien criminals. I am simply saying that we are human, legal or illegal. There are Americans killing Americans out there. It's a HUMAN problem, not with status.

    On my initial post, I am talking about the non-criminal illegal aliens. Let me say this again: YES! DEPORT THE CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS who kill, deal drugs, and hurt other people. I'm all for that. But what about the good people who have never hurted anybody?

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    You have to realize that not all illegals are criminals who kill and do bad things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    do you have any idea how many Americans are killed by an ILLEGAL ALIEN'S on a DAILY basis (25)... thats 25 people that were killed by someone that shouldnt even be here in this country... no my friend ...you are trying to mix apples and oranges and I think your post is going to get thumped on when people read into what you are trying to say
    Point is... people shouldn't be killing people at all. Legals and illegals alike. It doesn't make it valid for a legal person to kill another person. If we find illegal murderers, try them as you would a legal resident.

    As fellow Christians, I'd like to share with you Matt 18:22-35, Parable of the Unforgiving Servant. I know that none of us could forgive a lot of things people do to us, but that doesn't mean we should put all illegals in the same category. Some of them are good people, and some of them deserve to be given a shot at staying here.

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    this country was built on Judao christian beliefs... it was also built on laws; if it were not for the laws we would have had anarchy a long time ago like many other nations have endured.

    Not only do I believe that the church has over stepped it's bounds I think any churches making a political statement on this matter should lose it's tax exempt status.

    I think you may want to wait for the next person to come along for some sympathy, you will not get it here.... As a matter of fact; our political leaders are walking on egg shells and will probibly be in the un-employment line working for depressed wages as well

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    We've given MORE THAN ENOUGH to the illegals.
    Now go back to Mexico or wherever you came from.

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    You're still not addressing the points I have made. Please move away from the politics and focus on what I've said in the first post! Politics=how PEOPLE solve problems. Now let's talk about what God's Word says. I would like to hear all the Christians' viewpoints on this. I wanna know what other Christian brethren think about the points I have made.

    I know all your arguments for being hostile to illegals, but let's get pass that for one moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    this country was built on Judao christian beliefs... it was also built on laws; if it were not for the laws we would have had anarchy a long time ago like many other nations have endured.
    That is exactly why people from other nations are coming here. Because they are powerless to change the oppressive governments, so they seek sanctuary here. Not everybody does this, but a lot do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro
    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    this country was built on Judao christian beliefs... it was also built on laws; if it were not for the laws we would have had anarchy a long time ago like many other nations have endured.
    That is exactly why people from other nations are coming here. Because they are powerless to change the oppressive governments, so they seek sanctuary here. Not everybody does this, but a lot do.
    So, we should do our part in keeeping the opressive oligarchs in power?
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

    See you at the signing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    this country was built on Judao christian beliefs... it was also built on laws; if it were not for the laws we would have had anarchy a long time ago like many other nations have endured.
    That is exactly why people from other nations are coming here. Because they are powerless to change the oppressive governments, so they seek sanctuary here. Not everybody does this, but a lot do.
    So, we should do our part in keeeping the opressive oligarchs in power?
    No, not your part. Some things in the world can't change, that's why people resort to coming over illegally. In my opinion, I'd like to see the US conquer every single country so that we are united under one planet, one country. This is a great country, and I think the illegals (the good ones) should be given a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro
    No, not your part. Some things in the world can't change, that's why people resort to coming over illegally. In my opinion, I'd like to see the US conquer every single country so that we are united under one planet, one country. This is a great country, and I think the illegals (the good ones) should be given a chance.
    Why is it, in your opinion, that Calderon, Fox before him, and ALL of the oligarchs in Mexico favor open borders?
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

    See you at the signing!!

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