Thread: Hillary! I don't think so.

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

Oh! cassie I forgot to mention,

If you are against the word "God" and the "Pledge of Ledgence" being banned from schools,
And if you believe in "God"
Obama does`nt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,He`s Atheist.

Huh?

Well MK.......this little bugger has been everything from soup to nuts.
Muslim, Christian and now athiest?

And I've got a wonderful bridge for sale for anyone who's buying that, lol.

He's worked awfully hard to throw a smoke screen up over his muslimness.

I just heard about what has become the best selling bumper sticker ever. It says, RUN HILLARY RUN!.

Democrats have been buying them in large numbers to put on their back bumpers. Republicans have been buying them in even larger numbers to put on their front bumpers.

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

Oh! cassie I forgot to mention,

If you are against the word "God" and the "Pledge of Ledgence" being banned from schools,
And if you believe in "God"
Obama does`nt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,He`s Atheist.

I’m not against the word GOD. I never said that.
Just live and let live, if I want to curse using god’s name is up to me, not that I’ll do that, but neither will I accept a person telling me I can’t do that.

Originally Posted by April

Cassie wrote:

I want to pay the Republicans back by voting the most liberal Democrat in the primaries.

Cassie, I understand your anger , as you know I am very angry at Bush as well, however, I hope you really study your choice of presidential candidate as all of us should, because if your vote is entirely for revenge it could backfire. Because you are not looking at the whole picture, just at getting even. There are many Republicans that do not agree with Bush, so paying them back is not really fair.

Both parties support amnesty, so this issue will not be decisive when I cast my vote.

There’re several reasons why I vote Democrat.

1 – Revenge for Republican lies, war, etc is 60% of the reason
2 - I’m just a liberal on many issues and the Dems represent me better 40% of the reason

If the wrong president is put in office we all pay. Bush is an example of that. I could never vote for Hillary NOT because she is a Democrat, but because of her affilation with La Raza. I do not believe we can have a president that panders to the illegals. That would be a HUGE KNOCK against our cause here on Alipac and a devastating blow to America. Bush is already causing so much devastation in this area, a huge change needs to happen. Hillary with her La Raza agenda is not going to keep those illegals out of your neighborhood. She will give them tuitions and do more to help them feel at home, as she stated in the article I sent you. That would be VERY bad for America.

I’ve a problem too that Hillary made a speech for La Raza, that’s a racist organization. But Kerry also embraces Antionio Viraigosa, mayor of LA. Nobody has a clean record, but I do want to see Hillary to take distance from La Raza. Ok, tel me one presidential candidate that has a chance to win that is against amnesty and illegal immigration. Just name me 1.

I believe in voting for an individual and not a party. I am not attacking you or Hillary, just explaining why so many here are having a very adverse reaction to Hillary. We have all investigated indepth and cannot vote for Hillarys agenda.

Hillary is not perfect, has her short comings, must openly take a distance from La Raza, but is still the least of all evils.

I will be watching Tom Tancredo to see how he does on all issues. So far he is looking good to me. But it always good to reevaluate several times before making a final decision on any candidate. I admire your spirit, you seem to have alot of determination, you will be a good addition to the minutemen.

Tancredo has no chance of winning the GOP nomination. He’s a one issue person, this is not going to work. Try to support Guiliani, he’s moderate pro illegal, and no totally pro illegal as I could read out of noyoucannot posts

Originally Posted by Dixie

Originally Posted by cassie

...what are you up so late ?

Working to defeat illegal immigration.

Originally Posted by cassie

Originally Posted by Dixie

Bush is a lame, lame... lame duck. Sure he is all for guestworkers, no new news there. What you are failing to realize is that he is way off the Republican base and is more inline with the Democratic platform.

This is not true what you say. John McCain is a Republican, and he also supports a guest worker's program. And what is Colin Powel's stance ?? Jeb Bush ??

It's not! McCain is a fine example of a RINO. Look at his voting record. Also, since this fell into my lap today, this really explains McCain.
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=52930
As for Powel and Jeb...I don't care. They don't count because they are just voters.

Originally Posted by cassie

80% of Americans oppose illegal immigration, this is both Democrat & Republican voters, telling that Bush and his guest worker's program is inline with the Democratic platform and her voters is an insult to all the Democrats I know that oppose illegal aliens too.

It's not an insult but it's something the Democrats need to change within their party. Not my fault they are not doing what you think they should.

Originally Posted by cassie

Originally Posted by Dixie

Rhino. E V E R Y O N E on this forum realizes what Bush is and what he thinks. We also know he is not a very good representitive of the people or his party.

Bush is not a good representative of this nation, he's an idiot.

We know.

Originally Posted by cassie

Originally Posted by Dixie

In essence, the Democrats will be supporting amnesty and the Republicans will not.

They will both support amnesty, we know it from our history that Reps & Dems have given amnesty. Wasn't reagan a Republican ?? Who gave the 1986 amnesty ?? I'll give you a hint: " It was not a Democrat "

Ronald Regan said that was the worst mistake he ever made. Why are the Congressional Democrats following that act? Nope, not a Democrat but he was an OBL.

Learning something?

Dixie

You were on line 3 am Texas time to defeat illegal immigration ???? You need to get some rest too, Dixie. There’s no issue that may consume you in any way possible. I’m not going to sleep less or be up at 3 am just because I think illegal immigration should be defeated. Powell and Jeb are just voters, but they still have a lot of influence in the GOP. If McCain is elected president and Jeb + Powell sells his amnesty to the public, we might listen. The Democrats are wrong on illegal immigration, so are the Republicans. So the issue of illegal immigration is neutral when it comes to casting my vote. Both parties betray us. Now, when I start looking on other issues I know the dems will win 10 – 1 on issues for me, and that’s why I vote the Democrats.

Originally Posted by had_enuf

Originally Posted by cassie

This is not true what you say. John McCain is a Republican, and he also supports a guest worker's program.

Boy does he ever! But then so does Ted Kennedy. What about the infamous McCain/Kennedy amnesty bill s-2611? Is it still lurking around somewhere?

Seems to me about 38 democrats (90%)voted for it while 4 (10%) against it; 23 republicans (42%) for and 32 against (58%).

Originally Posted by cassie

Bush is not a good representative of this nation, he's an idiot.

Man did you ever nail that one.

Originally Posted by cassie

Who gave the 1986 amnesty ?? I'll give you a hint: " It was not a Democrat "

Yeap, Reagan was pres. Nobody in the house/senate but republicans? I seem to remember Teddy bear voting for amnesty then as well.

Originally Posted by cassie

I'm usually not this picky and don't take it personal, but your grammar and spelling is bad. Is English you primary language ??
I make spelling errors, but this is terrible !

We're here to fight illegal immigration, cassie, not to correct spelling and punctuation.

McCain/Kennedy bill ??? All I can say is that it can be expected from a liberal like Kennedy, but not a conservative as McCain to support an amnesty bill. Reagan proposed that amnesty and he was a very popular president at that time, the Dems could nothing more do then just follow. Same with the situation after 911. many Americans supported Bush to do what ever necessary and that gave him unfortunately a blank check. I only want to help Matthew with his grammar, aren’t we here to help each other too ??

Originally Posted by Matthewcloseborders

Sorry for the Grammar problems. But what should of Bush did after 9-11-2001? Really should he of done what Clinton did for 8 years and bombed a pill factory. Or maybe nothing at all in allow for more attacks on our country. Clinton set in did nothing for years and was offered Bin laden twice. In yet he did notihng. You want to go back to that?

No big deal my friend. I just wanted to help you, that’s all. My e – mail is in my profile, if you want me to correct your grammar, and explain it to me, feel free to drop me a line. I thought it was a pharmacy factory and not a pill factory, but I’m not sure, not that it really matters, it was stupid to bomb that factory. Clinton made 2 big mistakes:

Letting Osama go, Sudan offered to extradite Osama, but Bill thought it was not necessary. And the other mistake was that Bill naturalized 1,045 million people prior to the 1996 elections. Bill made some other mistakes, but as a Democrat I will not discuss this or try to bring him down, he is still better than any other Republican.

What needs to be understood of Islam, and how it wants to take over the world. Islam means "submit", it is not peaceful or going to stop intill we are all islamic. It started in the 6th century Ad in forced and killed its way through the middle east. They are not stupid and can wait to slowly over take us through more children. That is what they are doing over in the EU. France has on norm a total of over 50 to 80 cars a night burnt. Police can't go into a large area around Paris France. In 50 years Europe will be Islamic. I know you won't agree with me, but it doe's not look good at all.

In every religion there will be moderates and conservatives. Here in the US we have some people ( KKK ) that claim to be Christian too, and they do not represent the true Christians that will surely take a distance from the KKK. Religious right here in the US is the base for the GOP, and this scares me. The laws must be made based on reality and what’s right, not because some people thing that God or Allah wants it that way. Europe has its own problems, own made, they’d be smart not to allow Turkey to join the EU.

Iraq maybe or maybe not was the best idea, but at least we are taking out thousands of islamics that wish us harm. Many of them are the same people that flown those planes into our buildings. Iran is a big part of the problem,the bombs to blow our troops up mostly been coming from there. Also we have found a few of their guard helping with this. Is that a act of war? Sure is. It is not us that is doing it. But yet you will say I'm wrong for thinking this way. The president of Iran even threaten that we will die.

It’s never right to kill other persons because they may be a danger to you, if this is the case, we can start killing all our own criminals and radicals, gangs etc here in the US. The bombs the insurgents use are Iranian made ?? Please show me your source ?? most radical Muslims know how to make their own bombs, they don’t need Iran to help them. The president of Iran says we should die ? A Chinese general threatened to nuke hundreds of our cities with their new ICBM’s, are we invading china right now ?? Is there any discussion of invading China ?? No ?? Why not ?? Because GOP only wants to take control the middle east for Halliburton

I don't think Bush is a good president, but he is not all wrong on this issue. In fact he is a total tradior on the iligal and NAU problems. But I understand that islam is also a threat. I can't wait to put a American into office in 08.

You don’t think Bush is a good president ?? BUSH IS AN IDIOT !!!
Hillary is a true American, believe me, I’ve never lied to anyone.

The Eu is 27 nations that gave up for a unelected group of leaders. They did not defend their rights or nation when it was most needed. I think I will stick by America which respects freedom to a point any more. Even so some leaders of this country don't understand what that stands for any more.

I'm not trying to be harsh or anything, but hopefully we will stand as a nation against the threats we face. Also could you read this?

Yes, I could read this, I could read your previous post to, don’t worry. The EU is not a bad idea, they want to compete with NAFTA, China, etc. They need each other more than we need Canada or Mexico. The EU is 27 now ?? Did Romania and Bulgaria already joined them ??? Just asking, I may have missed that.

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

I just heard about what has become the best selling bumper sticker ever. It says, RUN HILLARY RUN!.

Democrats have been buying them in large numbers to put on their back bumpers. Republicans have been buying them in even larger numbers to put on their front bumpers.

Ah-ha!! That is a good one. I might just buy one myself.

Originally Posted by Neese

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

I just heard about what has become the best selling bumper sticker ever. It says, RUN HILLARY RUN!.

Democrats have been buying them in large numbers to put on their back bumpers. Republicans have been buying them in even larger numbers to put on their front bumpers.

Ah-ha!! That is a good one. I might just buy one myself.

It's an old " joke " that one about Hillary.
We Democrats will make the Republicans run !!!
My prediction is that we get over 300 electoral votes in the next presidential election of 2008.

Originally Posted by cassie

Originally Posted by Neese

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

I just heard about what has become the best selling bumper sticker ever. It says, RUN HILLARY RUN!.

Democrats have been buying them in large numbers to put on their back bumpers. Republicans have been buying them in even larger numbers to put on their front bumpers.

Ah-ha!! That is a good one. I might just buy one myself.

It's an old " joke " that one about Hillary.
We Democrats will make the Republicans run !!!
My prediction is that we get over 300 electoral votes in the next presidential election of 2008.

Coming from a scholar such as yourself, I guess we had better take that possibility seriously.