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    From Leo's "Barnett v. Obama: Important Discovery Is Available Now According To Judge Carter’s Order of Sept. 17, 2009." we had this post:

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    Harry Says:
    September 23, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Following is a Letter to the Editor of The Daily Interlake, Kalispell, Montana, which was sent in 3 weeks ago and has yet to be published. We had a fund raiser for Representative Denny Rehberg (R-MT) in August during which I approached him about the natural born citizen issue. Following is a copy of my letter with Representative Rehberg’s “explanationâ€
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    The Dual Cititzen POTUS Disqualification Issue Stands Alone

    So that we all understand that the birth certificate issue and the dual citizenship disqualification issues are two separate issues, Leo has discussed the dual citizenship disqualification issue here:

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    The Dual Cititzen POTUS Disqualification Issue Stands Alone

    Posted in Uncategorized on August 29, 2009 by naturalborncitizen
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    The following is excerpted from the complete forum and comments found on wordpress.com:

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    Today I received the following question from a reader:

    QUESTION FROM READER:

    [i]“Yesterday (Aug. 28 ) Orly Taitz filed suit in federal court in Texas on behalf of one Captain Connie Rhodes, M.D., in which Orly seems to have used wording that would be acceptable to Leo Donofrio:

    “(24) However, Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as the president has to spend only one minute of his time to sign a consent form for release of his vital records, showing that he is a Natural Born Citizen, meaning one born in the country to two US citizen parents.â€
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    Someone refresh my memory on this...
    For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063 STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.

    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.

    Grant the obvious, that
    • 1) Dr. Chiyome Fukino violated the law by looking at Barack Hussein Obama's original vital records;
      2) "the original vital records" (plural) may refer to one birth record (singular), which may or may not be a long form Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth; and
      3) no director of any state department of health is legally competent to ascertain natural born citizen status.

    Nevertheless, the Director of the Hawai'i State Dept. of Health is on record stating that Mr. Obama's original vital records verify that he was born in Hawai'i. What discredits that statement, and how does the testimony of a discredited con man, an ex-con who has done time for forgery, stack up against the testimony of the Director of the Hawai'i State Dept. of Health?
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    Are Persons Born Within the United States Ipso Facto Citizen

    Part of the Undead Revolution's research includes an article by Gorge D. Collins which appeared in The America Law Review, Sep/Oct 1884. Because the article was bit-mapped when created, I don't have ready access to copying the text here, but the link to the Scribd PDF document is here: http://tinyurl.com/yeac7kx

    This is an interesting read, and I can understand Leo's interest in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
    Someone refresh my memory on this...
    For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063 STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.

    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.

    Grant the obvious, that
    • 1) Dr. Chiyome Fukino violated the law by looking at Barack Hussein Obama's original vital records;
      2) "the original vital records" (plural) may refer to one birth record (singular), which may or may not be a long form Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth; and
      3) no director of any state department of health is legally competent to ascertain natural born citizen status.

    Nevertheless, the Director of the Hawai'i State Dept. of Health is on record stating that Mr. Obama's original vital records verify that he was born in Hawai'i. What discredits that statement, and how does the testimony of a discredited con man, an ex-con who has done time for forgery, stack up against the testimony of the Director of the Hawai'i State Dept. of Health?
    HJ: There's an interesting tidbit floating around out there in Internet Land which is that the Hawaii Attorney General's office may have written up a legal opinion which "informed" what the DOH issued as its statement with its "legal conclusion" of nbc. In that case - MmmWAAhahahaha -- the AG opinion letter should be discoverable (not protected from Open Records requests) and open up a whole lotta stuff. It might require a ruling about information it has to "redact" so as not to prevent violation of privacy laws but that's opening up a whole other can of worms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFirst
    MmmWAAhahahaha -- the AG opinion letter should be discoverable (not protected from Open Records requests) and open up a whole lotta stuff.
    "MmmWAAhahahaha"? Would you give us a translation from the Hawai'ian, FreedomFirst? Or is that a Navajo tonal word? Time out while I check the selection of Polynesian languages on Babelfish.
    Quote Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
    Nevertheless, the Director of the Hawai'i State Dept. of Health is on record stating that Mr. Obama's original vital records verify that he was born in Hawai'i. What discredits that statement, and how does the testimony of a discredited con man, an ex-con who has done time for forgery, stack up against the testimony of the Director of the Hawai'i State Dept. of Health?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFirst
    HJ: There's an interesting tidbit floating around out there in Internet Land which is that the Hawaii Attorney General's office may have written up a legal opinion which "informed" what the DOH issued as its statement with its "legal conclusion" of nbc. In that case - MmmWAAhahahaha -- the AG opinion letter should be discoverable (not protected from Open Records requests) and open up a whole lotta stuff. It might require a ruling about information it has to "redact" so as not to prevent violation of privacy laws but that's opening up a whole other can of worms.
    This sounds like something Leo would pursue in his current action with Terri K (and "Miss Tickly" on the old TexasDarlin blog). Do you think he is aware of the rumor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFirst
    HJ: There's an interesting tidbit floating around out there in Internet Land which is that the Hawaii Attorney General's office may have written up a legal opinion which "informed" what the DOH issued as its statement with its "legal conclusion" of nbc. In that case - MmmWAAhahahaha -- the AG opinion letter should be discoverable (not protected from Open Records requests) and open up a whole lotta stuff. It might require a ruling about information it has to "redact" so as not to prevent violation of privacy laws but that's opening up a whole other can of worms.
    This sounds like something Leo would pursue in his current action with Terri K (and "Miss Tickly" on the old TexasDarlin blog). Do you think he is aware of the rumor?
    Since it appears Tickly posted a summary of the info on Freepers' board and now has turned over everything to LD, I'd say that LD is not only aware of any rumor about the matter, but he could very well be sitting on a communication showing that the office of AG rendered an opinion. Here's a link to the exchange that reflects what's in his possession.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ... ment-11556

    R. McGeddon Says:
    September 22, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    I’m not sure I understand how Hawaii’s Health Director, a physician, deems herself qualified to render an assessment of Obama’s citizenship status (i.e. a natural born citizen). I mean, wouldn’t you really need to be an attorney to render such an opinion in any court of law in these United States? Hello! Am I missing something here?

    [Ed. We are all missing something. We have correspondence proving it was on the advice of the AG... this will be part of the judicial appeal.]
    If there's a formal AG opinion, it would be interesting to see how it "connects the dots" in arriving at a conclusion of NBC.

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009 ... -question/

    I keep circling back to the missing -- or at least, never revealed -- marriage license. If it never existed, then there's not even a fiction of a marriage. (Bigamous or not.)

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