Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Some fear that Mr. Obama will surrender U.S. sovereignty to a global government to be created by the Copenhagen Climate Change treaty this December. Such an act could not be undone even if the election were nullified and he had to resign from office.

IMO, the U.S. Senate will not ratify this treaty with the requisite 2/3 majority vote. As the Christmas angels say, "Fear not."

Originally Posted by PatriotofPast

I watched O'Reilly tonight and he had a couple "FOX" analysts on talking about Orley Taitz fine... 20,000.00!!! He called her a Birther Nut, and the 2 Fem. Lawyers he had on were no better. They both said she should not be "Wasting" the courts time.
Well people, with publicity like that... Hell, we might as well throw in the towel and ask the Soetoro Administration which FEMA Camp we should turn ourselves in to...

I missed this show last night. But, I have a theory. Notice that O'Reilly and the others haven't even BREATHED a word about the birther issue in forever. I am suggesting that this was a roundabout way that Fox is testing the waters on this issue. The fact that he even had Dr. Taitz on the show at all suggests that they are giving the issue some legitimacy, but downplaying it like he did gives them some protection. Catch my drift?

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

On Oct. 21, Dr. Orly Taitz put an intriguing birth document on her Google site. I have no idea about its authenticity.



For the full size image, scroll down three pages to the section,
"Is this Obama's Hawaii Birth Registration applied for by his grandmother showing he was
born in Kenya but registered in Honolulu? Click on photo to enlarge; uploaded Oct 21, 2009)"

Where did or from whom did Dr Taitz get this cert?

"Michelle contradicts Obama nativity story"
By Aaron Klein © 2009 WorldNetDaily October 27, 2009
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=114259

Dear Mr. Klein,

We at ALIPAC have researched this "married or not" issue to death, as I'm sure you are aware, unless our emails haven't reached you.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-137238-days ... c-511.html

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Stanley Ann D. Obama subscribed and swore to the fact that she and Barack Obama Snr. married at Wailuku, Maui, on Feb. 2, 1961. The Hawaii Circuit Judge acted upon that uncontested statement and incorporated it into the divorce decree as the event which was precedent to the divorce.

All parties involved are dead. The court's ruling stands, and has stood for 45 years. I can't imagine any way to get a review of that ruling, much less overturn it; can you? Whether their marriage was fictional or factual in the sight of God, in the sight of the judiciary, it is an established fact. And it is the judiciary with which we have to do here. Conjecture all you like, but for all intents and purposes, that case is closed.

IMHO, unless Barack Obama's mother stated otherwise on the BC application, for birth certificate purposes his parentage depends - in the eyes of the state, at least - upon the record of that marriage held by the state of Hawaii. His ancestry in fact, whether legitimate or bigamous, whether by Malcolm X or Frank Marshall Davis or even Barack Hussein Obama, Snr., does not overrule the marriage record held by the state.

Only a state court decision to annul the divorce record and to revoke the prima facie assumption of a legal marriage between BHO Snr. and Anna Dunham, based upon his existing marriage to Kezia, would overrule the existing marriage record. That hasn't happened, and good luck on making it happen, unless Mr. Obama decides that is in his best interest, which it may be (8 USC 12 §1409) .

Even if the marriage were annulled, in the divorce decree Stanley Ann Obama obviously claimed BHO Snr. as her child's father, which he never contested. Therefore, BHO Snr. would be the father of record on the BC, whether the marriage were legitimate or merely a fabrication for propriety's sake.

Or should we take at face value Michelle Obama's hearsay testimony of what her husband said about a wedding which did or didn't happen six months before he was born? Better that we let sleeping dogs lie, especially ones which could really hurt us.

Sincerely in Christ,

MinutemanCDC_SC

If you have a dissenting opinion to communicate, you can email Aaron Klein at aklein@wnd.com .

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Some fear that Mr. Obama will surrender U.S. sovereignty to a global government to be created by the Copenhagen Climate Change treaty this December. Such an act could not be undone even if the election were nullified and he had to resign from office.

IMO, the U.S. Senate will not ratify this treaty with the requisite 2/3 majority vote. As the Christmas angels say, "Fear not."

I have heard that they are going to try to go around the ratification process by simply passing a law with all of the elements of the Copenhagen treaty included. The good news is that this could be undone as it would not be the actual ratification. The bad news is that they would have time to have the tendrils of this treaty so tightly woven that it would be difficult to completely undo.

Originally Posted by PatriotofPast

I watched O'Reilly tonight and he had a couple "FOX" analysts on talking about Orley Taitz fine... 20,000.00!!! He called her a Birther Nut, and the 2 Fem. Lawyers he had on were no better. They both said she should not be "Wasting" the courts time.
Well people, with publicity like that... Hell, we might as well throw in the towel and ask the Soetoro Administration which FEMA Camp we should turn ourselves in to...

I hope you also noticed that the whole subject was improperly presented. For Orly, this was a no-win situation. The wrong question was asked and the wrong answers were provided.

Fox: minus one point.

youtube video of O'Reilly's 'birther' segment last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGT6qkq9XHY

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Dear Mr. Klein,

We at ALIPAC have researched this "married or not" issue to death, as I'm sure you are aware, unless our emails haven't reached you.

A squeaky wheel sometimes is not far from a crank, and oftentimes they rotate around a shared axis or focus.

I need pointers on how to get the attention of news media anchors, popular columnists, "internet powerhouses" , and the major print media - not so much to get news exposure, although that would be a plus, but to at least give an occasional heads-up to both the useful idiots and the loyal opposition (who really should know better than to drink the Kool-Aidâ„¢).

Good grief, I can't get in touch with Orly Taitz or Leo Donofrio most days, much less "Fair and Balanced" Bill O'Reilly!

So... who will loan me his or her copy of "Speaking the Truth to Power for Pinheads"?

See the link below for more

An issue the elitists did not think they would have to deal with is the question of whether Obama is a citizen or not. They thought they would be able to bamboozle the public.

That question has become a cause celebre. Thus, if the President’s controllers want to dump him it will be easy. They will just make sure it is finally discovered he was born in Kenya. Then it is game over.

The failure of Obama will further force the Elitest to cut back on their plans for a new world order. They will try their best to extend the time frame. The dollar devaluation, rising unemployment that brings social problems, or a breakdown in society will be avoided at all costs.

This means more and bigger injections of money and credit, more monetization, more stimulus and more subsidies.

That means we definitely will have hyperinflation and a falling dollar. That means gold and silver will go higher. That could mean an abandonment of a green policy, and the failure of Cap & Trade, healthcare reform and Copenhagen. We will have to see how things develop.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-970766.html#970766

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

See the link below for more

An issue the elitists did not think they would have to deal with is the question of whether Obama is a citizen or not. They thought they would be able to bamboozle the public.

That question has become a cause celebre. Thus, if the President’s controllers want to dump him it will be easy. They will just make sure it is finally discovered he was born in Kenya. Then it is game over.

The failure of Obama will further force the Elitest to cut back on their plans for a new world order. They will try their best to extend the time frame. The dollar devaluation, rising unemployment that brings social problems, or a breakdown in society will be avoided at all costs.

This means more and bigger injections of money and credit, more monetization, more stimulus and more subsidies.

That means we definitely will have hyperinflation and a falling dollar. That means gold and silver will go higher. That could mean an abandonment of a green policy, and the failure of Cap & Trade, healthcare reform and Copenhagen. We will have to see how things develop.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-970766.html#970766

The Dem's and the powers that be will throw Obama under the bus if it appears that he is becoming a liablity..which he is. I give them until next summer.