Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, DrBloodMoney

The Dentist did not get a case on the docket because no Justice wanted to hear it.

Chief Justice John Roberts, in front of 800 people at the Univ. of Idaho, graciously told Atty. Orly Taitz that he would read the two boxes of documentation she brought.

Associate Justice Antonin Scalia told Dr. Taitz, "You have to have four," meaning four justices calling for the case to be heard before the Supreme Court.

Rep. Jose Serrano (D-NY) asked Associate Justice Clarence Thomas about the Supreme Court hearing Obama eligibility cases. Justice Thomas, a conservative who is NO fan of Mr. Obama, said, "We're evading that one. We're giving you another option." Presumably, he was referring to the House possibly impeaching Mr. Obama if the 2010 elections bring about a tide change.

If Associate Justice Samuel Alito signs on now with the other three conservatives on the Supreme Court, Atty. Orly Taitz and Atty. Mario Apuzzo et al might still be defeated 5-4. If such a decision were to include - God forbid - an ill-begotten ruling in favor of Mr. Obama's eligibility, there would be no further opportunity for another trial.

But, after Nov. 2nd, if Justice Alito wisely waits for Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy to show some indication that he is willing to truly consider an eligibility case, Kerchner, for example, on the merits, the time will be right for it to be brought for a hearing before the full Supreme Court.

If there is a more plausible reason for Justice Alito's tarrying and delaying a call for an oral hearing, I'd like to hear it.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

I'm puzzled about why freedom1776flag started his otherwise factual YouTube compilation with
the 30 second spoof clip of Mr. Obama's words, edited to say that he is not an American, he is a Kenyan.

Not Natural Born -- TRUTH MATTERS

Of the clips comparing Mr. Obama to the Antichrist, this is the most accurate I have seen.

Is OBAMA the ANTICHRIST? 12 of 19 characteristics are met!

It closes with, "Is Barack Hussein Obama the Antichrist? It is too early to tell. But it certainly bears watching."

This one is good too....

AMERICA! MEET YOUR PRESIDENT (The Real Barack Hussein Obama)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_4Oy9Dn ... ature=fvwp





Kathyet

We are in so much deep !@$# with this guy! He makes me ill watching and listening to him.

CDR Charles Kerchner (USNR ret.) posted this as a possible explanation for the disappearance of
Anna Dunham's 1965 passport application. But supposedly it was purged in the '80's... maybe not.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogs...ther-lolo.html

Some of Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama Soetoro's Passport
Application Records Are Released due to Strunk FOIA Filing

Some Stanley Ann Dunham passport file documents were finally released after over a year and a half of Mr. Strunk requesting, and then suing, to get the information released, in the Strunk vs Dept of State FOIA case. This information should have been been released long ago per his initial FOIA request. But as with everything with Mr. Obama and his early life, the cover up is maintained as long as possible, and then when the files are released, things that should be there are missing. It required a federal lawsuit to even get them to release even these documents.

The passport services official says in the cover letter that some earlier passport application records noted in subsequent filings could not be found. Any possible 1960/1961 passport application paper work information that has been postulated by researchers studying Obama's early life narrative is missing from this released information. The link to any earlier passport application filed in the early '60s would have been shown in the passport application filed in 1965. But conveniently, the 1965 passport application paper work for a known passport issued on July 19, 1965 is missing. How convenient that key pieces of information about Obama and his family's early life always turns up missing! This reminds me of the missing page in the Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama 1964 divorce file.

Why I believe the July 19, 1965, issued passport was issued pursuant to a RENEWAL application filed in 1965 and was not the first passport that Stanley Ann Dunham had. The issue date in July 19, 1965, is four months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965. If she had applied for her first passport in the late spring or early summer of 1965, she would have had to legally apply for it in her married name, Stanley Ann Soetoro. The July 19, 1965, issued passport was not in her married name, since she had to AMEND it in 1967 and show her marriage license to get her married name put on her passport at that time. That is what the 1967 document states. And secondly, I believe it was a renewal application in 1965, because Obama's family in Kenya says Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama was there when Obama was born, and government officials in Kenya state Obama was born there. Stanley Ann would have needed a passport in 1961 to get to Kenya and back to the USA. Since the 1965 passport was not in her 2nd marriage name when it was issued 4 months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro, it is obvious to me she simply renewed her previously issued circa early 1961 original passport, which was in either her maiden name or in the name of her first marriage name of Stanley Ann Obama, if issued after Feb 1961, when she is said to have married Barack Hussein Obama, Sr..

The copies of documents in what was released per the FOIA request are numbered, but not in chronological order. This makes reading the file and the flow of events over time more difficult, unless one prints out the file and rearranges the docs in chronological order, which I did.

There is a document numbered P3, which is an application for amendment of her existing passport. This amendment request was apparently done in 1967 (per a handwritten clerk's name and date note on it, since the date is not filled in below Stanley Ann's signature on the form). This handwritten annotated note and date was apparently done by a clerk [looking at] a marriage license, in order to process the request to amend a passport issued on July 19, 1965. But the copy of that 1965 passport application is not provided in this FOIA request. The passport officials say it could not be found. Why? That 1965 passport was issued several months after she married Lolo Soetoro. She filed the amendment, apparently in 1967, allegedly to have it reflect her married name, due to her name change after marrying Lolo Soetoro at Molokai, Hawaii, on March 15, 1965, per page marked P3 of the released documents. Thus the conveniently missing application records for this 1965 passport implies to me that that there was something indicated in it that the powers [that] be did not want the public to see, i.e., that she had a passport prior to 1965, and the 1965 records indicated it was a Renewal application. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear. The carefully worded cover letter with the FOIA release implies to me that earlier years' records have been purged by someone at sometime for some reason, since they could not find a record that should be there based on records they did find. Was the 1965 passport issued per a renewal request for a [previously] issued passport? As to the implication in the cover letter that early year data may have been cleaned out due to some records retention cut off date[:] I don't buy that. Since passport records are filed in files by name and not in boxes or files by year, this does not make sense. I was under the impression that passport records kept and filed by name were kept virtually forever. [To CDR Kerchner: the passport applications were not required to be kept for 100 years. Bit it is peculiar that only that one critical record is missing.] That wording sounded to me like bureaucratic obfuscation. It sounds to me like HI officials (or whoever controls them) are now instructing the U.S. Passport Office [on] how to obfuscate and parse sentences in cover letters to allow them to not provide what one asks for and yet not be lying. In my opinion, there was probably a passport issued to Stanley Ann ([by] whatever name she used to get it) prior to 1965. The 1965 passport application record pointed to that. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear.

Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro-Passport Application File-Strunk v Dept of State-FOIA Release-FINAL-7-29-10. This file indicates, via the 1967 passport amendment application (document marked P3), that Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama had a passport for certain issued to her [in] 1965, and she was applying to amend it. Thus she had one for sure in 1965. Since a passport was good for 5 years, that means, if the 1965 issued passport was a renewal, that she likely got her first passport possibly as early as late 1960 or early 1961. How does that fit the narrative to explain the information coming out of Kenya, that Obama was born there? Why did she need a passport at age 18? She would not need it to have a baby in Hawaii [or Vancouver, Canada,] or to go to college in Seattle, Washington. What was the real reason this pregnant teenager got a passport in late 1960 or early in 1961? I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there, where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised by the paternal family in Kenya. She was to then return to re-start her life as a young teenager going to college in Seattle, Washington. And then when Stanley Ann did not follow the plan because maternal instincts kicked in [or paternal family kicked Barack II out], and she returned to college in Seattle WITH the new baby, grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there in Hawaii, with no witnesses, to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961. Listen to the Bill Cunningham Radio Show for how it was likely done: [continued...]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ

Anna Dunham may well have applied for a passport in early 1961, to give birth to Barack II in Kenya, so he could be adopted there by the Obama family. But as CDR Kerchner admits, that scenario is only "likely" and not a proven fact. The glove fits, but with the 1965 passport (renewal?) application missing, there is nothing in the remaining applications to prove or even hint that Anna Dunham applied for a passport in 1961. Perhaps there is a 1961 passport for Anna Dunham in the State Dept. confidential files.

In February of 2008, two contract workers, employees of John Brennan's The Analysis Company (TAC), illegally accessed Barack Obama II's passport file on the State Dept. computer database. If they cauterized that file, they also may well have removed any 1961 passport record from Anna Dunham's passport file on the State Dept. computer database (not the hardcopy).

Democrats had supermajorities in both houses of Congress and
a young, previously little-known president who had defeated
an aging war hero by a decisive margin. They realized that
the legislation they passed that year would raise some hackles,
but they expressed confidence that voters would accept it
when it was properly explained to them.

They didn't.

The year was 1854. Voters reduced the number of Democratic
House members from 159 to 83, nearly eliminating the party
in much of the North. Democrats didn't win a House majority
for the next 20 years.

(adapted from http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polit ... 90894.html)

Originally Posted by Atty. Leo Donofrio

Oral Argument Canceled – Appeal Dismissed in SDNY

On August 30, 2010, Judge Hellerstein suddenly dismissed the Chrysler Dealers’ appeal in the Southern District of New York thereby also canceling, for the second time, the oral argument that he ordered sua sponte. Judge Hellerstein’s opinion contains legal and factual errors. Steve and I will be entering an appeal in the 2d Circuit.

Leo Donofrio

Pidgeon & Donofrio GP

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ... d-in-sdny/

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Treason charge against Obama has never been answered
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SO HOW CAN OBAMA COURT-MARTIAL ANYONE?

by Sharon Rondeau

There are many reports that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is not a "natural born Citizen."

(Sept. 9, 2010) — On March 17, 2010, a criminal complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Tennessee against Barack Hussein Obama for Treason.

While the complaint called Obama an “imposter president,â€

[quote="kathyet"]
One congressional candidate stated that there could be as many as 10,000 people within the government deserving of jail time, and “probably 100 should be facing capital punishment.â€

In our efforts to understand Obama more, there is a very interesting and profound article in an upcoming issue of Forbes that is worth a read.

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How Obama Thinks
Author: Dinesh D'Souza,
Date: 09.27.10, 12:00 AM ET
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/ ... print.html

From the article:

...

Theories abound to explain the President's goals and actions. Critics in the business community -- including some Obama voters who now have buyer's remorse -- tend to focus on two main themes. The first is that Obama is clueless about business. The second is that Obama is a socialist -- not an out-and-out Marxist, but something of a European-style socialist, with a penchant for leveling and government redistribution.

These theories aren't wrong so much as they are inadequate. Even if they could account for Obama's domestic policy, they cannot explain his foreign policy. The real problem with Obama is worse -- much worse. But we have been blinded to his real agenda because, across the political spectrum, we all seek to fit him into some version of American history. In the process, we ignore Obama's own history. Here is a man who spent his formative years -- the first 17 years of his life -- off the American mainland, in Hawaii, Indonesia and Pakistan, with multiple subsequent journeys to Africa.

...

Clearly the anticolonial ideology of Barack Obama Sr. goes a long way to explain the actions and policies of his son in the Oval Office. And we can be doubly sure about his father's influence because those who know Obama well testify to it. His "granny" Sarah Obama (not his real grandmother but one of his grandfather's other wives) told Newsweek, "I look at him and I see all the same things -- he has taken everything from his father. The son is realizing everything the father wanted. The dreams of the father are still alive in the son."

In his own writings Obama stresses the centrality of his father not only to his beliefs and values but to his very identity. He calls his memoir "the record of a personal, interior journey -- a boy's search for his father and through that search a workable meaning for his life as a black American." And again, "It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself." Even though his father was absent for virtually all his life, Obama writes, "My father's voice had nevertheless remained untainted, inspiring, rebuking, granting or withholding approval. You do not work hard enough, Barry. You must help in your people's struggle. Wake up, black man!"

The climax of Obama's narrative is when he goes to Kenya and weeps at his father's grave. It is riveting: "When my tears were finally spent," he writes, "I felt a calmness wash over me. I felt the circle finally close. I realized that who I was, what I cared about, was no longer just a matter of intellect or obligation, no longer a construct of words. I saw that my life in America -- the black life, the white life, the sense of abandonment I'd felt as a boy, the frustration and hope I'd witnessed in Chicago -- all of it was connected with this small piece of earth an ocean away, connected by more than the accident of a name or the color of my skin. The pain that I felt was my father's pain."

In an eerie conclusion, Obama writes that "I sat at my father's grave and spoke to him through Africa's red soil." In a sense, through the earth itself, he communes with his father and receives his father's spirit. Obama takes on his father's struggle, not by recovering his body but by embracing his cause. He decides that where Obama Sr. failed, he will succeed. Obama Sr.'s hatred of the colonial system becomes Obama Jr.'s hatred; his botched attempt to set the world right defines his son's objective. Through a kind of sacramental rite at the family tomb, the father's struggle becomes the son's birthright.

Colonialism today is a dead issue. No one cares about it except the man in the White House. He is the last anticolonial. Emerging market economies such as China, India, Chile and Indonesia have solved the problem of backwardness; they are exploiting their labor advantage and growing much faster than the U.S. If America is going to remain on top, we have to compete in an increasingly tough environment.

But instead of readying us for the challenge, our President is trapped in his father's time machine. Incredibly, the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation's agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son makes it happen, but he candidly admits he is only living out his father's dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is governed by a ghost.

*************

Dinesh D'Souza, the president of the King's College in New York City, is the author of the forthcoming book "The Roots of Obama's Rage" (Regnery Publishing).

The complete Forbes article is found here:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/ ... print.html

Originally Posted by Dinesh D'Souza

But instead of readying us for the challenge, our President is trapped in his father's time machine. Incredibly, the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation's agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son makes it happen, but he candidly admits he is only living out his father's dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is governed by a ghost.

More of the "Presidential imcompetence caused by [whatever]" drivel.

May people quickly wake up to the fact that this is not an inept idiot, stumbling around in the dark, fumbling for the light switch.

This is a committed communist, a deceiver and a destroyer, a slick con man, a usurper who seized power by intrigue and deception, a pro-Is|am, anti-Christian, anti-American traitor. He was trained from childhood for a Marxist mission: to take down America (by debasing the dollar, showing weakness and even subordination before enemies such as Russia, Saudi Arabia, China, and the illegal alien invasion, breaking faith with our allies, turning against Israel, treacherously abandoning leaders in Dar al'Is|am who have aligned with the U.S., nationalizing private businesses and nullifying stockholder claims, thus making the stock market unworthy of investors' trust, etc.), and render the remains to be controlled by a world communist movement.

His every action regarding Christianity has been to put Jesus Christ not first but last: behind Is|am, behind Black Liberation Theology, behind atheism, behind ACLU/PFAW critics, behind the sensitivities of foreign despots, behind you name it.

These are not the acts of a man trapped in a 1950's time warp. Neither are they the mistakes of an inexperienced newcomer to Washington.

These are purposeful actions intended to subject America to global governance and to enslave a free people to Shari'a law.

To not know one's enemy is a perilous type of ignorance.

To refuse to know one's enemy is to play the ostrich and perish.