Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Here are three valid addresses to contact the Family Research Council about Barack Obama's ineligibility, as well as the contact page:

"Brad Pikkaart" <bsp@frc.org>
"J. P. Duffy" <jpd@frc.org>
"Patrick Fagan" <pff@frc.org>

http://www.frc.org/contact-frc

Be nice; be diplomatic; be tactful; be winsome. Keep in mind that your purpose is to win them over to the knowledge of the truth, not to blast them for not knowing what we know. Probably none of the above had any knowledge of the FRC email.

Supreme Court justices will discuss challenge to Obama's citizenship Friday

Though it writes that the legal action has "little chance of succeeding," the Chicago Tribune notes that Supreme Court justices will sit down tomorrow to "take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship."

At issue is the contention of some Obama opponents that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that at one point as a child he gave up his citizenship. The arguments have been dismissed by lower courts and well as by Obama and his aides.

The nonpartisan FactCheck.org reported earlier this year that its researchers "have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship."

Another nonpartisan fact-checking outfit, PolitiFact.com, reached the same conclusion.

Justice Clarence Thomas submitted the case, Donofrio v. Wells, for the court's consideration.

Posted by Mark Memmott at 01:58 PM/ET, December 04, 2008 in Election law

USA TODAY Online

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/
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Supreme Court Not Considering Obama's Birth Certificate Case

By Michael Kraskin
Dec 5th 2008 8:48AM
Filed Under:eBarack Obama, Breaking News, Supreme Court

Today is the day that all the Barack Obama birth certificate conspiracy theorists--or "birthers," as they're known in some circles*--have been waiting for. Yes, at long last, it's Birth Certificate Day at the Supreme Court! Time for the highest court in the land to settle this dispute once and all.

Or so the "birthers" would like to believe.

They're a tad mistaken, though. That's because the authenticity question over of Obama's birthplace document has all ready been put to rest innumerable times.

No, the question before the court today is not whether Obama was born in the U.S., it's whether that birth makes him a natural born citizen. The argument brought by Leo Donofrio goes like this:

"Don't be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues. They are irrelevant to Senator Obama's ineligibility to be President. Since Barack Obama's father was a Citizen of Kenya and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama's birth, then Senator Obama was a British Citizen 'at birth', just like the Framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on US soil, he still wouldn't be eligible to be President.

The Framers of the Constitution, at the time of their birth, were also British Citizens and that's why the Framers declared that, while they were Citizens of the United States, they themselves were not "natural born Citizens".

Got it? The argument is that even if he was born in the U.S., his daddy was an immigrant, so he can't be president. Donofrio in fact "concedes Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii."

Also, the Supreme Court isn't hearing the case, they are deciding whether to hear the case.

So, sorry birthers, no closure for you today. But hey, just for fun, here's a poll.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2 ... cate-case/
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December 5, 2008

Supreme Court Silent on Obama Birth Certificate Lawsuit

The Supreme Court made no announcement today whether or not it will hear Donofrio v. Wells, the lawsuit challenging the election based on Barack Obama's release - or alleged lack thereof - of his official birth certificate and his citizenship status. (The court did decide to hear two cases, one of which is the case of Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri, an Al Qaeda combatant seized on American soil.) Of course, there's no guarantee the Court will ever actually issue any statement on the Obama case since it was simply petitioned to the court and, along with hundreds of other cases, could be dismissed without any comment at all. But as Frank James, over at The Swamp, says, "the lack of an announcement doesn't mean the court definitely won't hear Donofrio." So either we will or we won't. Hmm.

Meanwhile, our comrades at our sister site DCist scoped out a protest held by supporters of the Donofrio cause at the Supreme Court this morning led by Roger Bredow, who claims Obama has duel citizenship.

The Supreme Court will announce whether it will actually consider the Obama lawsuit as early as today and as late as Monday. If (as expected) the Court tosses the suit, Bredow will start challenging Obama's legitimacy based on "foreign money that went into his campaign." Other protestors said they'd start contacting members of the Electoral College. Steve Brindle, who drove down from Pennsylvania, said he'd called his senators yesterday.

"There aren't a lot of people out here today," said Brindle. "There are a lot of people talking about this back home. Really, everyone's asking questions."

Of course, only 15 to 20 people showed so...yeah.

Either way, nothing will ever outweigh the rage we felt this morning when we read that Obama has allegedly chosen a Zune over an iPod. We're whipping up a petition as we speak and expect a protest very, very soon.

http://chicagoist.com/2008/12/05/no_wor ... _obama.php

Originally Posted by FreedomFirst

The Port of Entry documents will be very important in determining what passport was used by Obama up until the time that his status as a U.S. Senator allowed him to qualify for a special diplomatic passport.

FreedomFirst, you don't suppose Sandy Berger has a stacks pass for the Passport Office archives, do you?

The U.S. Dept. of State, including the Passport Office, reports to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, of which Sen. Joe Biden was the chair until very recently.

Though it would be a pleasant surprise, I would be most surprised - even shocked - if any possibly incriminating records about Mr. Obama still exist in the State Dept. archives. It is possible, though, do you think? For certain, something, sometime, somewhere, will trip up the fraud and impostor.

I'd be more inclined to expect the incriminating document(s) to emerge from London, England. Mr. Obama does not have the clout there which he has in the U.S. and in Kenya.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Originally Posted by FreedomFirst

The Port of Entry documents will be very important in determining what passport was used by Obama up until the time that his status as a U.S. Senator allowed him to qualify for a special diplomatic passport.

FreedomFirst, you don't suppose Sandy Berger has a stacks pass for the Passport Office archives, do you?

The U.S. Dept. of State, including the Passport Office, reports to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, of which Sen. Joe Biden was the chair until very recently.

Though it would be a pleasant surprise, I would be most surprised - even shocked - if any possibly incriminating records about Mr. Obama still exist in the State Dept. archives. It is possible, though, do you think? For certain, something, sometime, somewhere, will trip up the fraud and impostor.

I'd be more inclined to expect the incriminating document(s) to emerge from London, England. Mr. Obama does not have the clout there which he has in the U.S. and in Kenya.

Ah yes, Sandy and his little "capers" with valuable documents. Pidgeon has a Solicitor birddogging things in London. Supposedly, records housed in a U.K. colony would have a doppelganger in the U.K. I'm not sure what they're looking for, but it's probably a good bet that they're checking up on the passport which was used before the office of U.S. Senator allowed for a "minimum documents" American passport.

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Originally Posted by grandmasmad

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Wow people! SEVERAL pages of comments to attempt to prove Obama isn't our president, but when it comes to actual action needed by ALIPAC, we might get 2 or 3 pages worth of pledges. So you would rather try to stop a man from being president than kicking illegal immigrants out? How sad the state of affairs in our country. I am seriously considering joining another group. You guys would rather gripe about Obama rather than immigration. Can anyone suggest a site that FOCUSES on immigration rather than the guy I hate is our president?

Originally Posted by jshhmr

Wow people! SEVERAL pages of comments to attempt to prove Obama isn't our president, but when it comes to actual action needed by ALIPAC, we might get 2 or 3 pages worth of pledges. So you would rather try to stop a man from being president than kicking illegal immigrants out? How sad the state of affairs in our country. I am seriously considering joining another group. You guys would rather gripe about Obama rather than immigration. Can anyone suggest a site that FOCUSES on immigration rather than the guy I hate is our president?

I am willing to bet that the majority of the people here are for enforcing our laws and our constitution. IF the allegations are true, then our constitution has just been shredded.

What could be a more compelling fight than to secure our constitution from being raped by an illegal alien? We had n illegal alien, with a deportation order on her head, DANCING AT THE INAUGURAL BALL FOR CHRIST SAKE. This is not a case of we can't stand Obama, this is a case of the truth and constitution actually matter to some of us. According to comments made by New Mexico's Governor and the government of Kenya, there is better than a 50/50 chance that the man sitting in the oval office is an illegal alien himself! The two topics are intertwined. I personally would not want to be part of a group that would be like the MSM and high ranking public officials and silence everything about the probability that Obama has illegally and unconstitutionally been seated in the highest office in the land, possibly the world.

If that does not matter to you, there are plenty of other threads on this site. This thread is so long because months ago W asked us to try to keep all of the Obama natural citizenship questions on one or two threads.


oh and for those who just could care less if he is constitutionally qualified or believe that we are all nut cases to be ignored, what harm would there be in Obama unsealing his birth and education records for scrutiny like every modern era president has done before him?