Thread: *BLITZ* Countdown to Repub Kamikaze Suicide Mission is ON!

Originally Posted by katydid278

Thanks Sosad...

Your very welcome Katy, good luck!!

Wow! Was able to get through and leave messages for quite a few of the treasonous lot except for the already full voice mail boxes and a couple who do not have their voice mail on. I got a busy signal when I tried to call Teddy the Swimmer. All in all it was quite productive and now I will be able to sleep like a baby since I got some more of that built up frustration out!

Bowman wrote:

You need to call back and say "That's up to the Supreme Court to decide if it is treason or not, and that's where this bill will be going if it passes".

Wow. Really? Can you explain more?

Originally Posted by olivermyboy

Bowman wrote:

You need to call back and say "That's up to the Supreme Court to decide if it is treason or not, and that's where this bill will be going if it passes".

Wow. Really? Can you explain more?

Well you know how the ACLU and MALDEF file lawsuits against anything we try to do, now I might be all wet but I think we have more of a basis to file against this amnesty bill that they do with their BS lawsuits. I think the compromise bill as introduced is unconstitutional for a number of reasons, including:

1. The US securing of Mexico's borders.

2. Many House districts have more foreigners in them than US citizens, especially when you include all the anchor babies that were unconstitutionally granted US citizenship. This means these seats represent foreigners, not Americans, and any vote for amnesty from these representatives should not be counted.

What I am saying is Americans do not have equal representation. Here in California it takes twice as many votes to elect a Republican Congressperson as compared to a Democrat Congressperson, because most of the foreigners are put in the "Democrat" districts

3. The massive number of Mexican illegals given amnesty nor their children have any allegiance to the US, they constitute excessive foreign influence which will lead to either breakup of the US or the North American Union. Either way many or all Americans will lose their Constitutional protections.

What I am saying is a suit COULD be filed against it, to actually file one would require a lot of resources and Constitutional lawyers. I believe the resources and valid basis for a lawsuit to stop it could be found, which is why I think if it passes it will be going to the Supreme Court. Just my opinion.

I found this at the White House website....I think it's bull**** of course. If they can't and won't enforce the laws we have now why should we believe they would do so with this new crap. Plus if someone broke into your house do you think all they should get is a $1,000 fine??? And how will they have to acknowledge that they broke the law when they won't have to go in front of any judge....Nice way for them to add a small "penalty" just so we can't call it "amnesty" huh?

1. MYTH: This is amnesty.

FACT: Amnesty is the forgiveness of an offense without penalty. This proposal is not amnesty because illegal workers must acknowledge that they broke the law, pay a $1,000 fine, and undergo criminal background checks to obtain a Z visa granting temporary legal status.

FACT: To apply for a green card at a date years into the future, Z visa workers must wait in line behind those who applied lawfully, pay an additional $4,000 fine, complete accelerated English requirements, leave the U.S. and file their application in their home country, and demonstrate merit based on the skills and attributes they will bring to the United States.

FACT: Workers approved for Z visas will be given a temporary legal status, but they will not enjoy the full privileges of citizens or Legal Permanent Residents, such as welfare benefits and the ability to sponsor relatives abroad as immigrants.

2. MYTH: This proposal repeats the mistakes of the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act.

FACT: The 1986 Act failed because it provided amnesty for 3 million immigrants, did not adequately secure borders, did not include a workable employer verification system, and created no legal avenue to meet the labor needs of the American economy.

FACT: This proposal addresses every one of the shortcomings from 1986:

No Amnesty: Illegal workers must acknowledge that they broke the law and pay a fine to be eligible for a Z visa.

Border Security: Border security benchmarks must be met before the Z visa and temporary worker programs go into effect. These triggers include: constructing 370 miles of fencing and 200 miles of vehicle barriers at the border and increasing the size of the Border Patrol to 18,000 agents.

Employer Verification System: An Employment Eligibility Verification System must be ready to process new hires before the Z visa and temporary worker programs go into effect.

Temporary Worker Program: A temporary worker program will relieve pressure on the border and provide a lawful way to meet the needs of our economy.

FACT: The 1986 Act offered green cards after just 18 months, but under this proposal, green card applicants must meet a number of responsibilities – something which will take most candidates more than a decade.

3. MYTH: The government will not and cannot meet its promise to crack down on the hiring of illegal workers.

FACT: Before the Z visa and temporary worker programs go into effect, an Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) must be in place and ready to prevent unauthorized workers from obtaining jobs in the United States.

FACT: Employers will be required to verify the work eligibility of all employees using the EEVS, and all workers will be required to present stronger and more readily verifiable identification documents. Tough new anti-fraud measures will be implemented to restrict fraud and identity theft.

FACT: Employers who hire illegal workers will face stiff new criminal and civil penalties. For example, the maximum criminal penalty for a pattern or practice of hiring illegals will increase 25-fold, from $3,000 per alien to $75,000 per alien.

4. MYTH: This proposal would cut in half the amount of fence authorized by the Secure Fence Act of 2006.

FACT: The Secure Fence Act of 2006 – which authorized the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing; more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting; and increased use of advanced technology – will remain unchanged.

FACT: At least half of the additional fencing authorized by the Secure Fence Act must be built before the temporary worker program and Z visa could go into effect.

5. MYTH: The trigger period will cause a rush to the border.

FACT: To be eligible to apply for a Z visa, illegal immigrants must prove they were in the country prior to January 1, 2007.

FACT: Anyone caught crossing the border after the new law passes will be fingerprinted and permanently barred from receiving work or tourist visas from the U.S., creating a strong disincentive to illegal immigration.

6. MYTH: By providing an opportunity for citizenship to illegal immigrants already here, the bill will exponentially increase extended-family chain migration.

FACT: The proposal reforms our immigration system to create a new balance between family connections and our national interests and economic needs.

FACT: Visas for parents of U.S. citizens are being capped, while visas for siblings and adult children are eliminated.

FACT: To help keep our economy competitive, a new merit-based system similar to those used by other countries will give preference to attributes that further our national interest such as: job offers in high-demand fields, ability to speak English, and education.

7. MYTH: The temporary worker program is bad for American workers.

FACT: The temporary worker program relieves pressure on the border and meets our economic needs by allowing workers to enter the country to fill jobs that Americans are not doing.

FACT: The program protects American workers by requiring U.S. employers to advertise the job in the United States at a competitive wage before hiring a temporary worker.

FACT: To ensure "temporary" means "temporary," workers are limited to three two-year terms, with at least a year spent outside the United States between each term.

FACT: A cap of 400,000 is set on the program, which can be adjusted up or down in the future depending on demand.

8. MYTH: Illegal immigrants will come out of the shadows and on to the welfare rolls.

FACT: Z visa workers are not entitled to welfare, Food Stamps, SSI, non-emergency Medicaid, or other programs and privileges enjoyed by U.S. citizens and some Legal Permanent Residents.

FACT: In order to apply for and maintain Z visa status, workers must remain employed.

9. MYTH: Government agencies will not be able to share information to pursue immigration violators.

FACT: Under this proposal, there will be unprecedented information sharing between Federal, State, and local agencies to ensure that immigration laws are respected and enforced.

FACT: The new Employment Eligibility Verification System, which employers will be required to use for all employees, will rely on unprecedented information sharing across Federal and State databases, including Social Security records, passport and visa records, and State driver's licenses.

FACT: For Z visa applicants, DHS has authority to share information with law enforcement about terrorist aliens, security risks, and criminal aliens, including aliens who lie on their applications and aliens who commit fraud.

FACT: Under this proposal, DHS will receive Social Security Administration "no match" information on individuals and information on multiple uses of the same social security number by more than one individual.

10. MYTH: Senators are being asked to vote Monday on a lengthy bill that they will not have time to read.

FACT: Monday's vote is only a procedural vote to bring the bill to the floor for debate, not a vote on the bill itself.

FACT: This bill is the product of months of extraordinary negotiations between Senators from both parties and Cabinet-level officials.

I phoned both Senators offices locally and in DC. Then, I heard one of the talking heads on TV repeat, "The majority of Americans are for "immigration reform". That did it. Not from my area did not matter. Found a list of all the DC numbers. Started phoning.

They ask, I told them my zip. Said since this was going to change the nation I figured they needed to hear from Texas too. To my surprize many of the Senators phones were answered. They took notes. Only one hung up when they found out where I was, Byrd's office. Kerry ...Kennedy, Obama and many others were busy but seemed to be taking notes.
Many thanks for the Toll Free number. Don't know how to do the fancy things on here. .givin the smi..emoticons a try

Originally Posted by Boston_tea

I phoned both Senators offices locally and in DC. Then, I heard one of the talking heads on TV repeat, "The majority of Americans are for "immigration reform". That did it. Not from my area did not matter. Found a list of all the DC numbers. Started phoning.

They ask, I told them my zip. Said since this was going to change the nation I figured they needed to hear from Texas too. To my surprize many of the Senators phones were answered. They took notes. Only one hung up when they found out where I was, Byrd's office. Kerry ...Kennedy, Obama and many others were busy but seemed to be taking notes.
Many thanks for the Toll Free number. Don't know how to do the fancy things on here. .givin the smi..emoticons a try

Glad to have you pitching in!! BOSTON
Tons to do over the next few days

Originally Posted by April

Darn! McCains mail box is full, however unlike last night I was able to leave a message for Graham. I left him a nice little message about how the American people feel betrayed by him and not to expect to be in office if he is going to put the wishes of criminals above the needs of the American people!

So true, how can they be so passionate about folks that broke the law, don't vote... btw great call, "The American people feel betrayed by him!"

Did you see the YouTube of Senator Graham, telling a group of latinos, "We are going to fix this"....then anyone that disagrees with his stand ....well now, hes just gona, "Tell those Bigots to shut up!" ? I sent it to DC to one of our Reps. Is it ok to paste links in here?

Originally Posted by Boston_tea

Originally Posted by April

Darn! McCains mail box is full, however unlike last night I was able to leave a message for Graham. I left him a nice little message about how the American people feel betrayed by him and not to expect to be in office if he is going to put the wishes of criminals above the needs of the American people!

So true, how can they be so passionate about folks that broke the law, don't vote... btw great call, "The American people feel betrayed by him!"

Did you see the YouTube of Senator Graham, telling a group of latinos, "We are going to fix this"....then anyone that disagrees with his stand ....well now, hes just gona, "Tell those Bigots to shut up!" ? I sent it to DC to one of our Reps. Is it ok to paste links in here?

WELCOME BOSTON, sounds like you have made a really good start helping us out in the fight. Thanks so much, keep up the great work, lets wear them down.

WHAT BS FROM THE WHITEHOUSE WEB SITE!

They have the "you know what" to post this in the absence of any text being available???????

In other words, this is their propaganda/spin, but we have nothing else to compare it to because they have't yet put out a bill.

These sleazeballs.