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    please.

    McVain IS worse than the DemocRats because he's a liar and a back-stabber and a raving open borders kook on top of that.

    who lies to their own base while insulting them at the same time and expects everything to be OK?

    at least the libs can be assured Obama will be the communist he avoids admitting he is. but maybe we need 4 years of a different approach, it's not like the world's going to end.

    things will be much better positioned for real conservative leadership after 4 yrs of BHO or Hildabeast, that we'd be blind to just accept a McVain presidency now and all the harm that would cause.

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    McCain is far more dangerous than Hillary and Obama. Conservatives seem to go to sleep and become complacent when a republican is in the White House. If one of the Demo's are in, conservatives will be watching every move and raising a stink over every nutty plan they come up with.

    Hillary would really be the best one we could get in as everyone hates her and I imagine she will have a very difficult time.

    Hillary, who has lost the democratic nomination, is now staying in this race only to discredit Obama and give the election to her very close friend, John McCain. That should tell you something about John McCain !!

    I will never pull the lever for McCain. Although 80% of Americans say they do NOT want amnesty; McCain told us he didn't give a damn what we thought and continued to ramrod McCain/Kennedy amnesty through the Congress. The last thing we need is a liberal dictatorship, which is what McCain plans to give us.

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    Dianne wrote:

    Hillary, who has lost the democratic nomination, is now staying in this race only to discredit Obama and give the election to her very close friend, John McCain. That should tell you something about John McCain !!
    Please.......you don't honestly believe that, do you?

    I will never pull the lever for McCain. Although 80% of Americans say they do NOT want amnesty; McCain told us he didn't give a damn what we thought and continued to ramrod McCain/Kennedy amnesty through the Congress. The last thing we need is a liberal dictatorship, which is what McCain plans to give us.
    Look, I'm not voting McCain either, but to paint him as worse than Obama or the Hildabeast is, IMO, just ludicrous. The danger Obama poses for our country transcends far beyond illegal immigration and border security. Furthermore, I would suggest that the Hildabeast is the biggest liar in the U.S. Senate.

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    at least the libs can be assured Obama will be the communist he avoids admitting he is. but maybe we need 4 years of a different approach, it's not like the world's going to end.
    Believe it or not, the grass is not always greener on the other side. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Obama is the most dangerous of the three (IMO). Moreover, it has been reported that Obama leans further left than the majority of his peers (liberals) in the U.S. Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasBorn
    I'll take a lot of flak for saying this, but...does anyone here ACTUALLY believe that any one of the "other" candidates has a chance in hell to win the election in November? If you do than you are living on another planet. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Tancredo or Baldwin win but don't lie to yourself...it ain't gonna happen, not in this election cycle anyway. There are far too many people in this country who are totally ignorant of the candidates and what is happening in this country. I think there is a chance than an alternative candidate could have a chance in four years, but not now. If we let our pride get in the way, then we will be witness to Barrack Huessin Obama taking the oath of office in November. The idea of McCain as President is very unappealing..but the idea of Obama as President is unthinkable!!!
    No, I don't think Keyes or Baldwin can win, but in order to eventually get an alternative to the Globalist duopoly, I'm voting for people who reflect my views. I don't expect perfection, but trying to decide between McCain or Obama, is like trying to decide which Menendez brother is your favorite.

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    Dianne wrote:

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    Hillary, who has lost the democratic nomination, is now staying in this race only to discredit Obama and give the election to her very close friend, John McCain. That should tell you something about John McCain !!


    Please.......you don't honestly believe that, do you
    I certainly do believe that. You cannot deny that McCain and Clinton have been the best of friends for years. The biggest advantage to Hillary in McCain winning, is that he will be a one term President due to his age and health. With an Obama 2008 loss, that sets the stage for Hillary to run again in 2012 with Obama out of the picture and considered a loser.

    Common sense to me, especially when you see McCain and Clinton double teaming Obama.

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    POTUS wrote:

    I'm voting for people who reflect my views. I don't expect perfection, but trying to decide between McCain or Obama, is like trying to decide which Menendez brother is your favorite.

    Well said !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne
    McCain is far more dangerous than Hillary and Obama.

    Look closer. Both Hilarious and Obamaniac are FAR more dangerous to this country if you believe in conservative values. Illegal immigration should never be the only criteria by which a candidate is judged. America is a great country but in this day and age, disaster is always one complacent vote away. History is full of examples of countries that stood idly by and taken over by fanatics. Japan and Germany come to mind. I am a lifelong conservative and it is crystal clear to me which candidate is the most conservative but by no means the best conservative. In our case, the best conservatives barely made it out of the starting blocks. Clinton and Obama are far left socialists and want to change this country to mirror their utopian socialist values. Obama will no doubt be the democratic nominee. He stands for EVERYTHING that is counter to my beliefs. I can't stand by and allow him to become the leader of my country. One shouldn't let their distaste of one candidates stance on a few issues allow our country to fall into the hands of a far more dangerous America hating person.

    Hillary would really be the best one we could get in as everyone hates her and I imagine she will have a very difficult time.

    Hillary is a white female version of Obama but admittedly a little more transparent. But she is history barring some crazy meltdown in the Dem party.

    Hillary, who has lost the democratic nomination, is now staying in this race only to discredit Obama and give the election to her very close friend, John McCain.

    I'm not on Hilary's mailing list so I must have missed this master plan.

    I will never pull the lever for McCain. Although 80% of Americans say they do NOT want amnesty; McCain told us he didn't give a damn what we thought and continued to ramrod McCain/Kennedy amnesty through the Congress.

    Yes, this disgusted me off too! It takes two to tango and I didn't see the Dems rushing in to derail this bill. Of course you have the right to pull the lever for any candidate you choose. But consider this, Obama not only doesn't care what you think, he will ultimately try to control HOW you think. Such is the way of socialism.

    For me, the jury is still out. I am going to wait awhile to see how things play out and to see who McCains VP choice might be. If Ron Paul weren't so kooky I would have considered him. There could be a chance that Romney could be VP? In the meantime, perhaps some conservative savior will begin to gather momentum. Miracles do happen! I will certainly look closely in this case.
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    There's no way I'm going to vote for that traitorous piece of crap McCain, regardless of who his VP running mate is. I don't vote for people who have played a role in sealing the fate of American servicemen, left alive in the hands of the enemy. Why McCain defends Kerry: www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39892

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    I will end up voting constitution party or libertarian party. At some point guys and gals, we must stand our ground and send a clear message to the GOP that we will no longer tolerate the garbage candidates they have forced on us during the last 8 years and present. Everyone assumes republicans will take the advice of McCain's mother and hold their noses as they vote for McCain. But not me, I'm ready to leave the GOP sinking ship and join a true conservative party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne
    I will end up voting constitution party or libertarian party. At some point guys and gals, we must stand our ground and send a clear message to the GOP that we will no longer tolerate the garbage candidates they have forced on us during the last 8 years and present. Everyone assumes republicans will take the advice of McCain's mother and hold their noses as they vote for McCain. But not me, I'm ready to leave the GOP sinking ship and join a true conservative party.
    Me too....Count me in. Im voting my concious this time around. I have to look at myself in the mirror every morning. There are so many out there who say they are voting for McCain to keep the other whack jobs out, and this is why we are in the mess we are in. Voting the lessor of the two evils just isnt an option for me anymore.
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