Thread: I will not vote for McCain even if that means Obama wins.

Forgive me, I know I have posted this before or pretty close to the same, but nothing has changed my mind. Senator McCamnesty would be a natural candidate as a War Hero with his apparently demonstrated strength in National Defense except for his refusal to Defend our National Borders, Pro-ILLEGAL, Pro-Blanket AMNESTY, against Tax Cuts, help block judges, etc,etc..

Now he claims to be for ALL that he has spent the last several years working against and of course against ALL he has spent the last several years working for in the Senate. Again I believe we have been down this path before with the Bushwacker and Kamnesty Bailey stating what they thought was required to be elected not what they supported. They all want to lead the United States into becoming a Third World Country and we have discussed the reasons many times.

Just follow the money my friend. The "political contributors" will get their "cheap labor" and not have to furnish any "benefits" because all the "benefits" for the ILLEGALS will be furnished by the taxpayers enforced and implemented by "our politicians" and their "men"(see Johnny Satan)!!

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Originally Posted by MW

at least the libs can be assured Obama will be the communist he avoids admitting he is. but maybe we need 4 years of a different approach, it's not like the world's going to end.

Believe it or not, the grass is not always greener on the other side.

spare me the pontificating. I live in Los Angeles. so I live in the middle of "the other side." I know exactly what the grass looks like on that side.

and I still will never vote for the traitor McVain under ANY circumstances.

Look none of the choices this year are appetizing. Hillary is out - she will never get the nomination unless there is Democratic Party meltdown -- the fix is in for Obama.

So it comes down to Obama vs. McCain. Barr and Nader are going nowhere - they are spoilers. Besides Barr is a bigger Amnesty supporter than even McCain.

Obama is a closet Muslim, and if he is elected you will find Rev. Wright all over the White House. He hates American and his wife hates it even more. He is all for illegal immigrant amnesty -- higher taxes, raising the price of gasoline, ending the US lifestyle and actually ending the US. Plus he want to negotiate with terrorists not kill them. Obama wants to give drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants. Obama will support Feinstein AgJobs.

I don't like McCain - he was not my choice of a Republican Candidate but he got the nomination.

Why I will vote for McCain and why you should too:
1. I do think he will enforce the borders -- more than Obama who is for open borders.
2. The Iraq war -- I think most troops will be gone within 2-3 years. I think the Iraqi are getting more capable of managing on their own. Petreus is already recommending additional drawdown.
3. He will pursue Al Quaeda more vigorously than someone who wants to negotiate with every terrorist in the world.
4. He is not a communist or a socialist so I think he is morely likely to try to rein in spending and not raise taxes. Which means I think he will veto more bills than anyone else to rein in spending.

As for Trade Legislation -- that is up to Congress. If we vote in pro-free trade Congressmen Trade agreements will pass. This will depend on who gets into Congress.

Ultimately keeping pro-illegal amnesty supporters and free trade supporters out of congress will do more to control illegals and end free trade. SO yes the PResident sets the tone and sends legislation to the hill that doesn't mean it gets passed. The key to stopping amnest and free trade lies in who gets elected to Congress.

OBama will definitely push for free trade, amnesty for illegals, more immigration, more pro-muslim, more pro-UN, more pro World Government. He will do much to end and destroy US Soveignty. If you want to see Rev. Wright running around the White House and influencing policy the vote for Obama. But if you do you are a fool.

Seems McCain was a traitor to his first wife . Aand quesions about his POW time. He needs to answer them . I don't know what he did or didn't do, but he needs to deny or admit ,imo.

I don't know any leader who is worthy of a vote . They seem to be either war mongers or American accusers . No in between.

I will not vote for this man... G.O.P. you are on notice... fix yourself now or go home in the fall... the next 3 elections we are cleaning up government.

McCain... go play shuffle board and get a Hove ~r~ Round

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

I will not vote for this man... G.O.P. you are on notice... fix yourself now or go home in the fall... the next 3 elections we are cleaning up government.

McCain... go play shuffle board and get a Hove ~r~ Round

You won't clean up anything if Obama gets in. He will clean you up and destroy the country.

Yes it is a question of voting for the lesser of two evils -- but since Obama is the most evil one there is there is no way he will get my vote. I would vote for Satan first.

Get ready, you may yearn for the good old days on the "other side" when LA looks like downtown Mexico City after Obama is elected. Excuse me senor, would you like a kidnapping with that order?

spare me the pontificating. I live in Los Angeles. so I live in the middle of "the other side." I know exactly what the grass looks like on that side.

your not getting it... all three are from the same mold... one just a little less appetizing than the other two.... If these fools are what I think they are.... the lesser of evil is still evil.. either way America is Scre_ed

I will not now or ever again vote for a straight party ticket because someone says he is a conservative

in my honest opinion he needs to go ...

I agree..all three are from the same mold...politicians. Politicians run for office and they certainly don't do it because they want to be a martyr for the masses. We can spin them around and around all day long and say that they are all evil. In the end, it's about character. Admittedly it's difficult to see amidst all the BS that goes on. Most people just won't look deep enough...their vote goes about as deep as their eyes can see and as loud as the MSM shouts.

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

your not getting it... all three are from the same mold... one just a little less appetizing than the other two.... If these fools are what I think they are.... the lesser of evil is still evil.. either way America is Scre_ed

I will not now or ever again vote for a straight party ticket because someone says he is a conservative

in my honest opinion he needs to go ...

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

I agree..all three are from the same mold...politicians. Politicians run for office and they certainly don't do it because they want to be a martyr for the masses. We can spin them around and around all day long and say that they are all evil. In the end, it's about character. Admittedly it's difficult to see amidst all the BS that goes on. Most people just won't look deep enough...their vote goes about as deep as their eyes can see and as loud as the MSM shouts.

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

your not getting it... all three are from the same mold... one just a little less appetizing than the other two.... If these fools are what I think they are.... the lesser of evil is still evil.. either way America is Scre_ed

I will not now or ever again vote for a straight party ticket because someone says he is a conservative

in my honest opinion he needs to go ...

And don't forget about the Supreme Court - NO matter how much you hate McCain he will NOT appoint the kind of liberal justices OBama will. You will get a court filled with Stephen Breyers who salaam to Internnationl Law and not the COnstitution.

I have more faith that McCain will pick conservative justices. Part of the battle, which not many seem to understand, is about the Supreme Court and who will get to fill the next vacancy -- and thee will will surely be one in the next four years.