Thread: I will not vote for McCain even if that means Obama wins.

Originally Posted by Lugundum

Exactly my sentiments. Voting for lesser evil is the reason why we are in this global mess. I will no more vote for ANY lesser evil - only for issues.

Maybe this is an opportunity to screen some house/senate races and put the effort behind good boys. What about to compile a list of 20 most promising challengers standing against OBL senators and congressmen? By channeling your limited resources behind them you can significantly affect the behaviour of future congress.

Lugundum, I just thought of something.......Maybe one way yourself and other Europeans can help us is to give us ideas on how to establish viable alternative parties. Most European countries have multiple parties in their respective parliaments -- including nationalist parties. I have always wondered why we can't have that here. Do you have any suggestion as to how we can get this done here?

Originally Posted by CitizenJustice

"Second, anyone who would set back and DELIBERATELY allow Shillary or Hussein to win the election, deserves what they get......(which will include but not be limited to) shamnesty within days of taking office, higher taxes, and God help us when we have their health care plan!!!! And thats just to name a few.........

I hate the idea of voting for McShame, but I'm not going to sell out the U.S. to the dems by not voting.

Did I miss the part where McCain took his name of the McCain - Kennedy amnesty bill?

The President and Congress were surprised at the response when they tried to push it through last time. The will be better prepared the next time.

Unless Congress changes - highly unlikely unless somehow the Republicans can tie the gas prices to the DEMs - amnesty and open borders is a done deal when one of the three traitors becomes President.

I didn't say I will not vote. I said I won't vote for McCain - or either Obama or Hillary. As others have so rightly said, the lessor of two evils is still evil.

The question is WHO to vote for?

All of us conservatives fractured our vote in the primaries and as a result we ended up with McCain. Are we going to fracture our protest vote too?

Now that I am not going to compromise, I could vote for Allen Keyes in a heartbeat. Since somebody mentioned him, I Googled him and just found:

Alan Keyes to announce break with GOP in Hazleton, PA
http://www.alankeyes.com/articles/080413hazleton.php

Maybe it is time I withdrew too.

Arguing over which of the three Establishment presidential candidates would be the least harmful to the Republic, is the equivalent of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

The biggest single reason I could never vote for McCain, was his role in the cover-up of American POW-MIA's left behind in SE Asia, having to know that many of those men were still alive. There are other reasons I would never vote for him for anything, but that is Reason Number 1.

If Obama and Clinton continue to self-destruct with their lies and gaffes, there may be some benefit in having McCain elected, however. Shortly after taking office, he would make it abundantly clear to those who voted for him, that their votes amounted to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Maybe then, we could finally dispense with the nonsensical arguments about the value of voting for the "lesser of two (Globalista) evils", if it isn't too late by then.

It's sad to say but it comes down to the people of this country don't pay attention to the words coming out of the politicans mouths, the just want to FEEl Good about the person. I feel our counrty is going to have to go threw REHAB, hit bottom and work our way back up. hopefully, with God's power we can do it.

No intent to offend anybody here as I only follow this website very infrequently but I am surprised people are so angry with McCain. Is it only because of his stand on immigration? So which candidate is the favorite on this group? I am not American (just somebody waiting in line legally) and I would think people would be proud of what McCain has done for the US. Here is the story of his time in Vietnam as a POW, surely this is a moving story that shows his patriotism for America?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/ ... pter3.html

He is clueless on economic matters (and openly admits as much), and has claimed that the US should stay in Iraq '100 years if necessary', (not to mention his open defiance of most Americans wishes on the immigration issue). Short answer: No, McCain is non-starter for probably everyone on this site.

Originally Posted by Crikey

No intent to offend anybody here as I only follow this website very infrequently but I am surprised people are so angry with McCain. Is it only because of his stand on immigration? So which candidate is the favorite on this group? I am not American (just somebody waiting in line legally) and I would think people would be proud of what McCain has done for the US. Here is the story of his time in Vietnam as a POW, surely this is a moving story that shows his patriotism for America?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/ ... pter3.html

If you are so knowledgeable about McCain's sacrifice, why is it that you have been unable to find anything negative about him? Seems peculiar to me. And mind you...I am simply playing along with your presence as if it were legit. But just in case your lack of knowledge on McCain comes from selective research syndrome here are three topics to get you started:

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-99325-mccain.html
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-99327-mccain.html
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-99322-mccain.html

These topics have nothing to do with his illegal immigration stances, so hopefully it matches your diversionary spirit.

Originally Posted by Crikey

No intent to offend anybody here as I only follow this website very infrequently but I am surprised people are so angry with McCain. Is it only because of his stand on immigration? So which candidate is the favorite on this group? I am not American (just somebody waiting in line legally) and I would think people would be proud of what McCain has done for the US. Here is the story of his time in Vietnam as a POW, surely this is a moving story that shows his patriotism for America?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/ ... pter3.html

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

A good compendium for you while you are waiting in line. Although I think the US has already reached its quota for accepting internet trolls.

You should really listen to what you are saying. By not voting you basically pave the way for our next president to be Barack Hussein Obama. Your suggestion that you won't vote for McCain no matter what appears to be excessively myopic. The office of President will have an impact on many matters, not just illegal immigration. Study the candidates closely and you will find that Obama is a far left extremist and an undeclared socialist. Hillary is a leftist closet socialist and the quintessential politician who cares ONLY about winning the presidency as a stepping stone to her greater ambitions. Sadly, either Obama or Hillary would harken the end of the U.S. as we know it. A long, slow slide into a chaotic socialist North American Union. The loss of our national identity and the total devaluation of U.S. citizenship. Is this really what you want?

Originally Posted by PFWAG

"I will not vote for McCain even if that means, God forbid, Obama gets elected President. If McCain is the best the Republicans can do then we deserve Obama."



http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-89760.html

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

You should really listen to what you are saying. By not voting you basically pave the way for our next president to be Barack Hussein Obama. Your suggestion that you won't vote for McCain no matter what appears to be excessively myopic. The office of President will have an impact on many matters, not just illegal immigration. Study the candidates closely and you will find that Obama is a far left extremist and an undeclared socialist. Hillary is a leftist closet socialist and the quintessential politician who cares ONLY about winning the presidency as a stepping stone to her greater ambitions. Sadly, either Obama or Hillary would harken the end of the U.S. as we know it. A long, slow slide into a chaotic socialist North American Union. The loss of our national identity and the total devaluation of U.S. citizenship. Is this really what you want?

Are you suggesting that McCain wouldn't harken the end of the U.S. as we know it, taking us on a long, slow slide into a chaotic socialist North American Union (that Bush is currently honchoing) The loss of our national identity and the devaluation of U.S. citizenship?

The Real Conservative Conundrum: A President McCain Working With a Democratic Congress: www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002666802