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01-15-2008, 01:09 PM #111
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I fail to see what rights we are giving up?
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01-15-2008, 01:20 PM #112
You give up your right of privacy, and if these cards only had the same info as your current driver's license, they wouldn't need new cards, now would they? Sorry, I'm not buying into this RealID thing. If there is nothing wrong with them, why are entire states refusing them? Because they go against the Constitution.
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01-15-2008, 01:22 PM #113
Me too, usanevada. What civil rights are we giving up?
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01-15-2008, 01:24 PM #114
bob, what privacy? How is my privacy being invaded?
And the reason some states don't want it is more mundane than you thought. It costs money, which they claim they don't have. Nothing sinister about that.PRESS 1 FOR ENGLISH. PRESS 2 FOR DEPORTATION.
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01-15-2008, 01:24 PM #115
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Originally Posted by tinybobidaho
Right now the govt can find you in about 5 minutes , through
your drivers license , your ss , your bank account , your Internet provider
Again , how does the real ID invade your privacy ?
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01-15-2008, 01:26 PM #116
The Real ID would have security measures to prevent it from being forged and to verify its authenticity, something current DLs don't have, apparently. That's all it is.
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01-15-2008, 01:26 PM #117
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From the day you got your first ss number or registered for selective service the govt had your number
Now your issued a ss at birth so its not like they don't already know
who , what and where you are
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01-15-2008, 01:32 PM #118
The civil liberties you give up is freedom of movement and personal information. No American should have to have their movements tracked. The government can't control you until they can control your movements. The writing is on the wall for the bigger plan and it's called the NAU. They can't have an NAU until they can control people. From the NAU it goes to a one world government. If you're for that, then no problem.
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01-15-2008, 01:34 PM #119
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Bob
I'm not getting it?
Every time you go to a store and use and atm card , everytime
you use a cell phone or log on to the internet , If you move to another state and have to change your drivers license
How are they not "tracking" you right now?
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01-15-2008, 01:38 PM #120
Control my movements? How? I can see them tracking my movements, but controlling them? Does the Real ID have some sort of remote control trigger or something?
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