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    Re: Romney

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    Thanks Saki. As he said, he's in for the long haul.
    I hope he is in it for the long haul.

    I believe he can win Michigan.

    Link to Romney Michigan ads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxsLY0Jptwk and
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkJ7LnyID7k .
    I believe Romney will win in Michigan, unless democrats take votes from Hillary and give them to McCain since no other democrat will be voted on.
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    Re: Romney

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    Quote Originally Posted by tancredofan
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    Thanks Saki. As he said, he's in for the long haul.
    I hope he is in it for the long haul.

    I believe he can win Michigan.

    Link to Romney Michigan ads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxsLY0Jptwk and
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkJ7LnyID7k .
    I believe Romney will win in Michigan, unless democrats take votes from Hillary and give them to McCain since no other democrat will be voted on.
    See the Michelle Malkin article that I posted directly above!!
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    Kos

    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    Quote Originally Posted by tancredofan
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    Thanks Saki. As he said, he's in for the long haul.
    I hope he is in it for the long haul.

    I believe he can win Michigan.

    Link to Romney Michigan ads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxsLY0Jptwk and
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkJ7LnyID7k .
    I believe Romney will win in Michigan, unless democrats take votes from Hillary and give them to McCain since no other democrat will be voted on.
    I hope most of the Daily Kos crowd that lives in Michigan will follow the lead of the Daily Kos website.

    See the Michelle Malkin article that I posted directly above!!

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    Romney straw poll win

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti ... /801120385

    RUN-UP TO THE MICHIGAN PRIMARY

    Romney triumphs in Ottawa County straw poll
    January 12, 2008

    By DAWSON BELL

    FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

    HUDSONVILLE -- It may not give him much of a boost Tuesday or beyond, but former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney scored a minor victory in the heart of Michigan Republican territory Friday night, winning a straw poll at the Ottawa County Lincoln Day dinner.

    Romney, one of two GOP candidates who addressed the gathering, received 926 votes to 388 for the surging winner of the New Hampshire primary, U.S. Sen. John McCain.

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    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was third with 74, followed by former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson, who netted 69, and U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, who addressed the dinner and got 44.

    Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has essentially conceded Michigan to focus on other primary states, garnered nine votes. And U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning outlier in the Republican race, earned two.

    The straw poll was not a rigorously conducted election; voters could submit up to 20 ballots at a dollar apiece. But it may be heartening heading into Tuesday's real thing. Ottawa County is generally considered one of the most Republican counties in the state.

    Geraldine Vruggink, a Romney supporter from Hudsonville, said she is attracted to his practical and business experience and to his "high morals." If Romney is elected, people won't have to worry about what is going on at the White House, she said.

    In his remarks to the crowd of about 500, Romney stressed his Michigan roots and his appreciation for the special role he said the state plays in the national economy. Michigan's loss of jobs and recession are indications that Washington has lost the ability to solve problems, he said.

    "I'm in this campaign to change Washington," Romney said.

    U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback, standing in for McCain, said Republicans have a rich field to choose from, but McCain is best positioned to defeat the Democratic nominee in November.

    Hunter expressed his commitment to ending illegal immigration, defending fetal rights, the Second Amendment, and giving full support to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    "We are going to prevail" in Iraq, Hunter said. "We will leave Iraq with an ally, not an enemy ... and we will leave ... in victory."

    That line won him enthusiastic applause. But not many straw votes.

    Contact DAWSON BELL at 517-256-8863 or dbell@freepress.com.

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    Re: Romney straw poll win

    Quote Originally Posted by tancredofan
    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080112/NEWS15/801120385

    RUN-UP TO THE MICHIGAN PRIMARY

    Romney triumphs in Ottawa County straw poll
    January 12, 2008

    By DAWSON BELL

    FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

    HUDSONVILLE -- It may not give him much of a boost Tuesday or beyond, but former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney scored a minor victory in the heart of Michigan Republican territory Friday night, winning a straw poll at the Ottawa County Lincoln Day dinner.

    Romney, one of two GOP candidates who addressed the gathering, received 926 votes to 388 for the surging winner of the New Hampshire primary, U.S. Sen. John McCain.

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    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was third with 74, followed by former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson, who netted 69, and U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, who addressed the dinner and got 44.

    Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has essentially conceded Michigan to focus on other primary states, garnered nine votes. And U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning outlier in the Republican race, earned two.

    The straw poll was not a rigorously conducted election; voters could submit up to 20 ballots at a dollar apiece. But it may be heartening heading into Tuesday's real thing. Ottawa County is generally considered one of the most Republican counties in the state.

    Geraldine Vruggink, a Romney supporter from Hudsonville, said she is attracted to his practical and business experience and to his "high morals." If Romney is elected, people won't have to worry about what is going on at the White House, she said.

    In his remarks to the crowd of about 500, Romney stressed his Michigan roots and his appreciation for the special role he said the state plays in the national economy. Michigan's loss of jobs and recession are indications that Washington has lost the ability to solve problems, he said.

    "I'm in this campaign to change Washington," Romney said.

    U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback, standing in for McCain, said Republicans have a rich field to choose from, but McCain is best positioned to defeat the Democratic nominee in November.

    Hunter expressed his commitment to ending illegal immigration, defending fetal rights, the Second Amendment, and giving full support to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    "We are going to prevail" in Iraq, Hunter said. "We will leave Iraq with an ally, not an enemy ... and we will leave ... in victory."

    That line won him enthusiastic applause. But not many straw votes.

    Contact DAWSON BELL at 517-256-8863 or dbell@freepress.com.
    I hope that this is a reflection of how all of Michigan will vote!!

    As bad as the economy is in Michigan------how can anyone support McCain when he says, "oh well, jobs are gone, we will just need to think of something else."
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    Romney

    I believe that Romney will definitely carry the GOP vote in Michigan, but I am worried that enough Dems will vote for McCain for him to win.

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    Someone posted this on another site.....But did not post the link.

    Here is Romney's actual conservative record:

    ---In the four balanced budgets he signed into law, Governor Romney used the line-item veto or program reduction power to cut spending by nearly $1 Billion. Over the course of four budgets, Governor Romney made over 300 line-item reductions, 350 line-item eliminations and struck language 150 times.

    --- Gov. Romney was instrumental in passing a bill abolishing a retroactive capital gains tax in the state that would have forced nearly 50,000 taxpayers to pay an additional $200 million in state taxes and fees

    --- 4 years ago --- before the illegals marched in our streets --- Romney opposed a bill that would have allowed illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses. "Those who are here illegally should not receive tacit support from our government that gives an indication of legitimacy," the governor said. (Scott S. Greenberger, "Romney Stand Dims Chances Of License For Undocumented," The Boston Globe, 10/28/03)

    --- Romney vetoed a bill in 2004 that would have permitted illegal aliens to pay the same in-state tuition rate paid by citizens at public colleges and universities in Massachusetts.

    --- Romney vetoed the bill providing state funding for human embryonic stem cell research

    --- Romney vetoed a bill that provided for the "morning after pill" without a prescription because it is an abortifacient and would have been available to minors without parental notification and consent

    --- He vetoed legislation which would have redefined Massachusetts longstanding definition of the beginning of human life from fertilization to implantation

    --- Governor Romney strongly supported a successful ballot initiative that replaced the state's bilingual program with English immersion. (Romney Vows to Protect English Immersion Law, May 1, 2003)

    --- Governor Romney demonstrated his commitment to school-choice by vetoing a bill that would have canceled funding for Massachusetts' charter-school program. (Romney to Veto Charter School Moratorium, June 23, 2004)

    --- He supported parental notification laws and opposed efforts to weaken parental involvement

    --- He fought to promote abstinence education in public school classrooms with a program offered by faith-based Boston group Healthy Futures to middle school students.

    Governor Romney filed and signed into law the most significant expansion of military benefits in recent years. The new law reduced to zero the cost members of the Massachusetts National Guard must pay to attend public colleges and universities, increased twenty-fold the death benefit paid to families of members killed in the line of duty, created a new annuity benefit for Gold Star spouses and boosted the amount paid to Gold Star parents. (Romney Signs Legislation Expanding Military Benefits, November 11, 2005)
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    Judge Robert Bork endorses Gov. Romney

    Here is a link to an audio of an endorsement by Judge Robert Bork of Mitt Romney: http://www.mittromney.com/Audio/Bork.mp3 .

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    Did you notice how Romney won the straw poll in Republican territory?? No matter what happens in Mich, this race is still far from over -- no matter what the talking heads in the dinosaur media (including FOX news and MSNBC) say. We have to wait until the non-open primaries & caucuses in Republican states start voting (like Wyoming).
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    Romney winning in Michigan

    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    Did you notice how Romney won the straw poll in Republican territory?? No matter what happens in Mich, this race is still far from over -- no matter what the talking heads in the dinosaur media (including FOX news and MSNBC) say. We have to wait until the non-open primaries & caucuses in Republican states start voting (like Wyoming).
    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti ... POLL022007

    Romney is top choice for GOP in Tuesday primary, poll shows
    McCain close second, but much rests on undecided voters
    January 12, 2008

    By CHRIS CHRISTOFF

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    Republican primary voters whose greatest concern is the economy could give Bloomfield Hills native Mitt Romney his first major state victory in Tuesday’s Michigan presidential primary, according to the Detroit Free Press-Local 4 Michigan Poll.

    Romney leads John McCain, 27%-22%, with Mike Huckabee in third at 16%, the poll showed. Romney’s core of support is in metro Detroit, where he has a 2-1 advantage.

    Of the 40% who named the economy as their top concern, Romney had a 42%-25% advantage over McCain. McCain wins by about the same margin over Romney among the 24% of Republican voters whose top issue is the Iraq war.


    But Romney's lead could evaporate, depending on how tentative, undecided and uncommitted voters lean over the next two days. About 38% of voters who had a favorite said they might change their mind by Tuesday. Another 22% hadn't picked a candidate.

    The poll also shows that relatively few Democratic voters plan to vote in the Republican primary, a factor that may be difficult to gauge. Independents and Democrats who cross over to the GOP could tip the election to McCain if they show up in substantial numbers.

    Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co. and director of The Detroit Free Press-Local 4 Michigan Poll, said the Michigan primary is "even quirkier than Iowa" with Democrats not campaigning in the state and only one of the three major candidates on the Democratic ballot.

    Selzer's poll two days before the Iowa caucus successfully projected Barack Obama's victory over Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Independent voters in the Michigan Poll favored McCain over Romney by 5 percentage points. But Romney holds an 11-point edge among self-identified Republicans.

    The telephone survey of 600 people who said they definitely will vote has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. It was conducted Wednesday through Friday.

    Romney, the former Massachusetts governor whose father George Romney was a Michigan governor in the 1960s, needs a win in Michigan after second-place finishes in Iowa and New Hampshire.

    "I think Republicans will pick a Republican nominee, and that's me," Romney said Saturday in an interview with the Free Press.

    Romney also said while many Michiganders don't remember his father, "my dad's reputation has lasted longer than I can easily understand."

    McCain, the Arizona senator who won last week's New Hampshire primary, defeated George W. Bush in Michigan's 2000 presidential primary on the strength of independent voters and some Democrats.

    On Tuesday's Democratic ballot, only Clinton's name will appear among three major contenders. Obama and John Edwards took their names off because Michigan violated national party rules by moving its primary before Feb. 5.

    It's not known how many Democrats who are unhappy with their choices will choose to vote on the Republican ballot. Obama and Edwards supporters are urging a vote for "uncommitted."

    GOP voters say McCain is more electable, unifying and able to bring about change, the poll showed. But respondents like Romney more for his leadership style, understanding of voters and ability to convey hope for the future.

    Ronald Wittebols, 42, of Mt. Clemens said he'll vote for Romney because the country needs a businessman at its helm.

    Wittebols said the Iraq war is being mopped up by Bush, so the nation's focus is turning to the economy — and Romney can help it.

    "He's a successful businessman, a billion-dollar venture capitalist. He's got a sense of what a balance sheet should look like," Wittebols said.

    Sharon Borsand, 64, a retired teacher in Bloomfield Hills, said Romney has the experience the country needs.

    "Hopefully, he can bring more business and jobs here," Borsand said.

    Borsand said that while she likes McCain, she doesn't think the 71-year-old candidate has the energy to take on Clinton, 60, or Obama, 46.

    Steve Weir, 36, a landscaper in Holly, said he'll vote for McCain because he admires his military service.

    "He seems like he's not your ordinary politician," said Weir, who also voted for McCain in 2000. "He seems like he's honest."

    Richard Olszewski, 63, of Waterford said he also is leaning toward McCain. Olszewski said he likes McCain's position on the Iraq war, but he disagrees with the Arizona senator on the issue of immigration.

    "He's a conservative, but he's willing to bend a bit," said Olszewski, a medical equipment manufacturer's representative.

    Huckabee is a favorite among GOP voters motivated by faith. Thirty-eight percent said it matters if the next president is a devout Christian, the highest number among attributes.

    Among that 38%, Huckabee leads Romney by a small margin. Voters who identify themselves as evangelical comprise 29% of the Republican primary vote, and they favor Huckabee almost 2-1 over Romney.

    Huckabee's comments that he believes God created the Earth was a defining moment for Erica Miller, 32, of New Boston. She said she was leaning toward Romney until she heard Huckabee's declaration.

    "I can't believe I heard a candidate say that. It's so refreshing," she said.

    Miller said it's not that religion is so important to her in the presidential race, but moral values are. She said she likes Huckabee's straightforward conservatism, his speaking style and his clear way of answering questions.

    "It's hard to tell if a politician is being honest, but my gut tells me he's more honest than most," she said.

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