Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by florgal

Look in the background of the picture. Does anyone else think it looks like kid's artwork of Christmas trees?

Yes, which would fit in with a Catholic school

Back then, public and secular schools were much more tolerant of religious art and party themes in the schools than they have been recently. All that artwork suggests to me is that the school was not Muslim. And, there are MANY orientals in Hawaii, some of whom are quite tiny. I worked with a gal named Kanoi who was more the size and build of a girl than us Europeans at her age. I have known other Hawaiians, and most are of mixed blood. Samoans have a reputation for being huge, too, but there are exceptions.

The question of usurping the Constitution in favor of allowing anyone to become POTUS has been with us for a while, as the following Senate hearing excerpt from Barney Frank shows us. I think the progressives and members of the shadow government figured in 2004-2008 'screw it - let's just do it and see what happens.'

Barney Frank mentions 'discrimination' as though it was a bad thing. Sorry, Barney, the requirements to be POTUS ARE discriminatory, and for GOOD reasons.

He also says people accuse him of 'amending the Constitution.' Not so. We're accusing him and the rest of the Democratic controlled Congress of ignoring and violating the Constitution. Big difference - amending is lawful; usurping is unlawful.

Stupid, malicious, power hungry socialists... grumble... grumble...

I'll wager there is a long trail of public speeches, private conversations, and meeting notes that would provide an extensive conspiracy trail to overthrow our Constitution. Good fodder for another historical book on the shadow government's efforts to ruin our national sovereignty.

If you haven't read Prof. Steven Yates 25-page article yet, this might be a good time to do so.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21992009/Stev ... nal-Errors

Books like 'Who will tell the People' by William Greider, 'The Late Great USA' by Jerome Corsi, and 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs will add to your depth of knowledge on the attacks against our sovereignty.

=================

MAXIMIZING VOTER CHOICE: OPENING THE PRESIDENCY TO NATURALIZED AMERICANS HEARING

BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED EIGHTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION
OCTOBER 5, 2004

Serial No. J–108–98

(…)
Chairman HATCH. Thank you. I sure appreciate having you here. Representative Frank, we are honored to have you here, and we look forward to hearing your always lucid comments.

STATEMENT OF HON. BARNEY FRANK, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS

Representative FRANK. Thank you, Senator. I appreciate the way you framed this as increasing the choice for voters. Obviously, there is an element here of fairness to individuals. My colleague from Arkansas has pointed that out. And I was first asked to do this — I did this a few years ago. I filed one version. I actually had a hearing when Representative Kennedy from Florida was the Chair of the Constitutional Rights Subcommittee. Four or five years ago we had a hearing. And it was brought to my attention by an immigrant, who is an American citizen, who has been active in politics in the city of New Bedford, Massachusetts, and he was troubled, as I was, by the invidious discrimination of it. It basically says to people who have chosen to come to America in many cases, or who have been brought here, who have gone through the process of citizenship, have been very loyal, very law-abiding citizens, that they are somehow flawed.

The notion that people who come here and become naturalized are any less entitled to be here and to exercise privileges and rights and responsibilities than anybody else is offensive. And for that reason alone, we ought to get rid of it. Beyond that, though, there is a fundamental principle here, and it is the one you touch on with your phrasing of this. I believe in the right of the people to choose as they wish.

Now, people say, well, you are amending the Constitution. The fact is that in 1789, the notion of direct democracy was not the one that governed. Clearly, in terms of world history, the people who came to the American Constitutional Convention, they went for the first time to self-governance, but they did not go all the way. They had a Senate which was indirectly elected, a House directly elected, a President that was not supposed to be even indirectly elected. Remember, the original notion of the Electoral College was they would vote for a lot of smart guys, and the smart guys would sit around and decide who should be President. Remember, in the Electoral College, you did not pick President or Vice President. You just voted for President, and whoever got the most votes was the President, and whoever got the second most votes was the Vice President.

We have evolved substantially since that time, I think in a good direction. Unfortunately, the evolution has not yet reached a point where we got rid of that foolish Electoral College, but that is something for a later day. But we do have now this major obstacle in the way of the voters, and we say to them: We don’t trust you. You could get fooled. I mean, they might — some foreign country might sucker you by getting some slick person mole him into the United States, or her, and get that person citizenship, and then years later have that person get elected President, and you will be too dumb to notice. I don’t think that is accurate, and I don’t think that ought to be the governing principle. I really believe that the people of the United States ought to have the right to elect as President of the United States someone they wish.

I understand the prudential argument about some time limitation. I originally said 20 years. Mr. Snyder said 35. The fewer the better, as far as I am concerned. I will be honest with you. If you look at the principle of it, in my view an hour and a half is probably about enough time, because I trust the voters. This is up to them. Obviously, for practical reasons it will have to be a little bit longer.

But that is the issue. Should we tell the American people that we do not trust them to decide that someone — and, remember, nobody parachutes into the Presidency.

Chairman HATCH. That is a tough process.

Representative FRANK. Yes, it is hard work, as we have learned. I understand that. I heard that last week, that it is very hard work to be President.
[Laughter]

Representative FRANK. In fact, I understand they do not play ‘‘Hail to the Chief’’ anymore at the White House. They play ‘‘A Hard Day’s Night.’’ But nobody comes in without being subject to a lot of scrutiny. Presidential candidates are people who the public has a chance to see. They have been in lower offices. They have been in the private sector. They have been prominent. And I don’t think we should say that the American people don’t have the mental acuity and political judgment to look at someone who has been around for a while and who has achieved the kind of prominence that you have to achieve to be a Presidential candidate, but we cannot trust them to pick someone who happened to have been born in another country because of some flaw on their part. So I think this is really a further step in bringing democracy as it should truly be understood to the electoral process, and I am for it, and it would also have, I think, a very useful time. You know, this is a world in which our country has been, I think, unfairly accused of a lot of things; misinterpreted. I think for this country at this point to take a step towards enhancing the rights of immigrants, even in this particular way would be — this is a good time to do it.

Chairman HATCH. Well, thank you. There is no question that you have made a lot of good points there, some of which have been too humorous, I think.
[Laughter]

Yeah, real funny...

[quote="MinutemanCDC_SC"][quote]
“Scott & Barry, 3rd grade 1969â€

Miss Tickly has suspended her blog (??) and Donofrio is now possessed of enough "denial of access" paperwork to file a lawsuit in Hawaii.

TerriK / Tickly seemed to be going off some kind of deep end, claiming Obama's real father might link him up to some native Hawaiian roots?

Mario has filed an appeal in Kerchner:

KERCHNER, et al. v OBAMA, et al. - APPEAL - 11/09/2009 - OPEN DOCUMENT - CIVIL CASE DOCKETED

http://tinyurl.com/yz59mvu

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Mario has filed an appeal in Kerchner:

KERCHNER, et al. v OBAMA, et al. - APPEAL - 11/09/2009 - OPEN DOCUMENT - CIVIL CASE DOCKETED

http://tinyurl.com/yz59mvu

I wish them luck, but I just can't get excited anymore

Originally Posted by cayla99

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Mario has filed an appeal in Kerchner:

KERCHNER, et al. v OBAMA, et al. - APPEAL - 11/09/2009 - OPEN DOCUMENT - CIVIL CASE DOCKETED

http://tinyurl.com/yz59mvu

I wish them luck, but I just can't get excited anymore

Feeling the same way Cayla. Judge Carters shocking turnaround took the wind out of my sails. Evil, corruption and political correctness have descended upon this country like an oppressive fog. Let's hope that SOMEONE can lead us out of this before the citizens of this country reach their boiling point and take matters into their own hands. That time isn't far away as pointed out last night on O'Reilly. It was obvious even Bill was a little nervous about what measures the citizens of this country might take soon.

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Originally Posted by cayla99

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Mario has filed an appeal in Kerchner:

KERCHNER, et al. v OBAMA, et al. - APPEAL - 11/09/2009 - OPEN DOCUMENT - CIVIL CASE DOCKETED

http://tinyurl.com/yz59mvu

I wish them luck, but I just can't get excited anymore

Feeling the same way Cayla. Judge Carters shocking turnaround took the wind out of my sails. Evil, corruption and political correctness have descended upon this country like an oppressive fog. Let's hope that SOMEONE can lead us out of this before the citizens of this country reach their boiling point and take matters into their own hands. That time isn't far away as pointed out last night on O'Reilly. It was obvious even Bill was a little nervous about what measures the citizens of this country might take soon.

TexasBorn, you don't need to wait for no stinkin leader. The leader is you... and me... and Cayla. We're all leaders in our families and in our communities. We lead from the front - there is no one in front of us.

The job of leading is ours.

Witnesses: Obama birth lawyer told us to lie

November 11th, 2009, 5:00 am
· 134 Comments
· posted by Martin Wisckol, Politics reporter



A man claiming to have been Barack Obama’s homosexual lover and another claiming to have Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate say Laguna Niguel attorney Orly Taitz asked them to lie in federal court. I’ll get to the details of their affidavits with the allegations momentarily.

Taitz planned to use the two as witnesses in her effort to prove Obama was born in Kenya and is not a legitimate president. However, the case was dismissed on Oct. 29 by U.S. District Judge David O. Carter without going to trial.

In his dismissal, Carter wrote, “the Court has received several sworn affidavits that Taitz asked potential witnesses that she planned to call before this Court to perjure themselves. This Court is deeply concerned that Taitz may have suborned perjury through witnesses she intended to bring before this Court.â€