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    Go to www.khow.com and go to peter boyles page for Obamas selective service registration, just like his ss number being from connectuit, the numbers are all screwey!
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    Re: Clarification, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
    The 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868. Minor v. Happersett was decided in 1875, Wong Kim Ark in 1898, and Perkins v. Elg in 1939. Thereafter, did the recognition or verification of citizenship lie completely within Federal jurisdiction, even though it was originally within the purview of each individual state?

    If citizenship was wholly a Federal matter after 1939, and if a grandmother registered her daughter's baby, born abroad in 1961, as born in Honolulu, Hawaii, that would not make the baby "U.S. born" except in the sight of the State of Hawaii. Right?

    Would such a falsified registration make the foreign-born baby a U.S. citizen, prima facie, until proven otherwise?
    Its not an issue of citizenship and never was. Its about being a Natural Born Citizen. Now it all comes down to exactly how they rule it works, if 1 parent is not a US Citizen but born on US soil what are they considered? The US also has US Birth Abroad so what does that count as? My son was born overseas but not on a military base, and I'm American so whats my son considered specifically?

    There are numerous holes which really don't matter except for the POTUS and they are abusing every one of them. Now I personally don't think he was eligible of course but yah.

    But yah, we'd have to prove somehow that its bogus which would be very hard to do because we'd be required to have bulletproof evidence and many of the possibilities would be off limits such as specific Grandma in Kenya's words having any meaning and other things. It would need to be a case that skips straight to the SC as no lower judge would touch it with a 100 foot pole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReformUSA2012
    Would need something in place when there is no father on the birth certificate. Hard issue to resolve considering the current use of baby daddies who are out of the picture while abusing it at the same time. Sounds harsh but maybe requiring both parents to be eligible and if only have a mother tough crap.

    Some may say its harsh but we could easily say the same thing about the age requirements for public office. After all why can't a 30 year old run for office of president especially with age discrimination laws.
    When there is no father on the birth certificate and no valid marriage to create a legal basis for a newborn drawing citizenship through paternity, the well-settled law is that the child draws citizenship from the SOLE parent capable of conferring it: the mother. And this has been settled law from before Vattel.

    The 1948 British Nationality Act governing at the time of Obama's birth allowed for a retroactive claim to British citizenship if the biological father later married the mother. But no British citizenship at the time of a child's birth if it was out of wedlock.

    This loophole is what you would see Obama exploit, in a heartbeat, if the NBC issue ever received a full hearing. He would point to there being no marriage license and/or to there being a bigamous (null, void, of no legal effect) marriage if a license is ever located.

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    Obama's Social Security number goes to court
    Complaint in federal district seeks evidence of suspected fraud
    Posted: February 07, 2011
    8:55 pm Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2011 WorldNetDaily

    President Barack Obama participates in a national tele-town hall meeting at the Holiday Park Multipurpose Senior Center with senior citizens to discuss the Affordable Care Act and ways to combat scams targeting seniors in Wheaton, Maryland on June 8, 2010. Secretary of Health and Human Service Kathleen Sebelius was on hand to moderate the questions from seniors. UPI/Gary Fabiano/Pool Photo via Newscom

    An attorney who has aggressively pursued the release of President Obama's Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate filed a complaint in federal court yesterday to force the release of Obama's Social Security files.

    "I'm not asking for Obama's Social Security number," Attorney Orly Taitz told WND, acknowledging that the Social Security Administration will not release the number of a living person. "I want related information, including information about deceased individuals that will help us prove whether or not Obama has committed Social Security fraud."

    Taitz filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to force the Social Security Administration to respond to her Freedom of Information Act request seeking information on Obama's Social Security number.

    At the heart of Taitz's complaint to the court is the suspicion that Obama has engaged in Social Security fraud by using a number initially issued to another person.

    Taitz contends the Social Security number Obama has used the most often since around 1980 was, according to Lexis Nexis and Choice Point, initially assigned to an elderly individual born in 1890 who resided in Connecticut.

    In her complaint, Taitz claims that Obama is linked in national databases to some 39 different Social Security numbers, including one allegedly issued in1976 or 1977 to a person born in 1890 who was living in Connecticut at the time of the Social Security application.

    "In and around 1976-1977 due to new Social Security requirements multiple elderly individuals, particularly women, who were housewives and never worked before, applied to obtain Social Security Benefits," Taitz explained in her complaint.

    "Therefore the date of birth of 1890 originally connected to [Obama's Social Security number] was consistent with many other examples of elderly individuals, born between 1890-1915, applying for Social Security cards for the first time between 1976-1977."

    This is Taitz's second FOIA request to the Social Security Administration, seeking to obtain Obama's Social Security records. An earlier request was denied May 18, 2010, on privacy grounds.

    The D.C. court denied Taitz's appeal to the previous FOIA filing on the grounds that the appeal was filed prior to the final determination by the Social Security Administration.

    On Oct. 4, 2010, Taitz filed a second FOIA request with the Social Security Administration, refining her request in an attempt to avoid the privacy concerns that determined the agency's previous denial.

    So far, the Social Security Administration has not responded to Taitz's second FOIA request, despite six certified letters she has sent the agency since Oct. 4, 2010.

    To buttress her arguments, Taitz submitted to the federal court affidavits signed by private investigators Susan Daniels and John Sampson.

    Both Daniels and Sampson state that in the 1980s, Obama assumed as his own a Social Security number that had been applied for in Connecticut and was issued by the Social Security Administration between the years 1976 and 1977

    Sampson, a retired senior investigator with the Department of Homeland Security, provided in his affidavit an expert opinion that there is no reasonable explanation for a person residing in Hawaii to get a Social Security number issued in Connecticut.

    "The affidavits of the private investigators indicates Obama is using a fraudulent Social Security number," she said, "so I am requesting information from the Social Security Administration that would help us track down the Connecticut-issued number Obama is using as well as the multiple Social Security numbers that show up for Obama in the private investigator databases."

    Daniels, in a previous interview with WND, said the Social Security Administration never re-issues Social Security numbers.

    "A person who wants to hide their true identity often picks up the Social Security number of a deceased person, thinking that nobody would ever look into it," Daniels said. "I think it was sometime in the 1980s that Obama decided to hide who he really is."

    The Social Security website confirms the first three digits in Obama's Social Security number are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.

    WND previously reported that Obama worked as a teenager in Hawaii at a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store in the Makiki neighborhood on Oahu, which USA Today documented still was in operation one year after Obama's inauguration.

    A current photograph of the Baskin-Robbins can be seen on the website "Obama's Hawaii Neighborhood."

    WND can find no record of any Social Security number Obama used working at the Baskin-Robbins.

    Politifact.com, a website typically supportive of Obama, claims he worked at the Baskin-Robbins in 1975 or 1976, prior to the issuance of the Connecticut Social Security number he is currently using.

    There is nothing in the public record that would document Obama ever lived in or even visited Connecticut during his high school years.

    There also is no indication in the limited background documentation released by the Obama 2008 presidential campaign or by the White House to establish that Obama ever lived in Connecticut.

    Nor is there any suggestion in Obama's autobiography, "Dreams from My Father," that he ever had a Connecticut address.

    Also, nothing can be found in the public record that indicates the president visited Connecticut during his high school years.

    Barack Obama Sr. lived in Hawaii from 1959 until June 1962, when he moved to Massachusetts to attend Harvard University; nothing can be found in the public record that indicates Barack Obama Sr. ever had a Connecticut address.

    WND has further confirmed that the Social Security number in question links to Obama in the online records maintained by the Selective Service system. Inserting the Social Security number Obama is currently using, his birth date and his last name produced a valid Selective Service number identified with Obama.

    Here is a screen capture that shows the Selective Service cross-verification of the Social Security Number that President Obama is currently using:



    WND has also reported that the Social Security Administration has decided to randomize all future Social Security numbers issued, beginning on or about June 25, 2011, in a move that will eliminate state-specific assignment of the Social Security numbers..



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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFirst
    When there is no father on the birth certificate and no valid marriage to create a legal basis for a newborn drawing citizenship through paternity, the well-settled law is that the child draws citizenship from the SOLE parent capable of conferring it: the mother. And this has been settled law from before Vattel.

    The 1948 British Nationality Act governing at the time of Obama's birth allowed for a retroactive claim to British citizenship if the biological father later married the mother. But no British citizenship at the time of a child's birth if it was out of wedlock.

    This loophole is what you would see Obama exploit, in a heartbeat, if the NBC issue ever received a full hearing. He would point to there being no marriage license and/or to there being a bigamous (null, void, of no legal effect) marriage if a license is ever located.
    This is indeed a sticky wicket. But no worries. His birth in Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, makes him a Kenyan and a British Protected Subject by birth, and it also voids any claim to U.S. citizenship inherited from his 18 year old mother.

    In 1961, the year that Barack Obama was born, Anna Obama could not transmit to her son Barack citizenship of any kind, according to Sec. 301 (a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (in effect until 1986).


    [quote="A professional investigator hired by Western Journalism"][size=117]“ 7 FAM 1133.2-2 Original Provisions and Amendments to Section 301

    (CT:CON-204; 11-01-2007)

    “a. Section 301 as Effective on December 24, 1952: When enacted in 1952, section 301 required a U.S. citizen married to [incorrect: parentage, not marriage, was the criterion] an alien to have been physically present in the United States for ten years, including five after reaching the age of fourteen, to transmit citizenship to foreign-born children. The ten-year transmission requirement remained in effect from 12:01 a.m. EDT December 24, 1952, through midnight November 13, 1986...

    “As originally enacted, section 301(a)(7) stated:

    Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
    . . .
    [b](7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...â€
    One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.

    Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
    tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.

    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=261393
    For WorldNetDaily.com, Bob Unruh[/url]]Supreme Court told: Don't avoid eligibility
    Attorney warns justices real problem is getting judges to take oath 'seriously'
    Posted: February 08, 2011

    A veteran attorney [John D. Hemenway, representing retired Col. Gregory Hollister,] who has pursued a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's presidential eligibility since he was elected is telling the U.S. Supreme Court that if its members continue to "avoid" the dispute, they effectively will "destroy the constitutional rule of law basis of our legal system."
    . . .

    "We're evading that one," answered Thomas, referring to questions of presidential eligibility and prompting laughter in the chamber. "We're giving you another option." http://www.youtube.com/v/O7qEH-tKoXA

    continued...

    "They effectively will destroy the constitutional rule of law?"

    I only question Mr. Unruh's use of the future tense. We now live under the constitutional rule of law only insomuch as it does not interfere with the rule of the usurper and the Gang of 545+ in Washington, D.C..
    One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.

    Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
    tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.

    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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    With a hat tip and a thank you to natborncit, here is the text of the Nebraska eligibility bill. [I added indentations and corrected typos.] http://nebraskalegislature.gov/FloorDoc ... /LB654.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://nebraskalegislature.gov/FloorDocs/Current/PDF/Intro/LB654.pdf
    Nebraska State Senator Mark Christensen and other authors of the Nebraska eligibility bill[/url]]LEGISLATURE OF NEBRASKA
    ONE HUNDRED SECOND LEGISLATURE
    FIRST SESSION


    LEGISLATIVE BILL 654


    Introduced by Christensen, 44.
    Read first time January 19, 2011
    Committee: Government, Military and Veterans Affairs


    A BILL
    FOR AN ACT relating to elections;
    to amend sections 32-620, 32-714, and 32-813, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska;
    to provide filing requirements for candidates for President and Vice President of the United States;
    to provide powers and duties for the Secretary of State;
    to prohibit certain acts by presidential electors;
    to provide a penalty;
    to harmonize provisions;
    to repeal the original sections; and
    to outright repeal section 32-712, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska.

    Be it enacted by the people of the State of Nebraska,

    Section 1. Section 32-620, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska, is amended to read:

    32-620 (1) No later than September 8 prior to any general election at
    which candidates for President and Vice President of the United States
    are to be voted upon by the registered voters of this state, the appropriate
    officer or officers of each national political party convention shall certify
    to the Secretary of State the names and addresses of the candidates for
    the offices of President and Vice President of the United States which
    that party wishes to have appear on the general election ballot. Such
    certification shall include the affidavits and supporting documentation
    required under subsections (4) through (6) of this section.

    (2) Candidates for the offices of President and Vice President of the United
    States of newly established political parties or of nonpartisan status may
    obtain general election ballot position by filing with the Secretary of State:
    • (a) An application containing:[list:3n9v3dc4]
      (i) The name or names to be printed on the ballot;

      (ii) The status of the candidacy, whether nonpartisan or partisan;

      (iii) The written consent of the designated vice-presidential
      candidate to have his or her name printed on the ballot;

      (iv) The affidavits and supporting documentation required
      under subsections (4) through (6) of this section; and

      (v) The names and addresses of the persons who will represent
      the applicant as presidential elector candidates together with the
      written consent of such persons to become candidates; and

    (b) A petition signed by not less than two thousand five hundred
    registered voters. Such petitions shall conform to the requirements
    of section 32-628 and shall not be circulated until after the date of
    the primary election in that election year. Registered voters who
    voted in the primary election of any political party that held a
    presidential preference primary election that year shall be ineligible
    to sign the petitions of any other candidate for president.[/list:u:3n9v3dc4](3) If write-in candidates for President and Vice President of the United States
    receive the most votes in a general election as canvassed by the board
    of state canvassers, such candidates shall file with the Secretary of State,
    within five days after the canvass of votes, the affidavits and supporting
    documentation required under subsections (4) through (6) of this section.
    The Secretary of State shall make the determination and certification of
    the candidates' eligibility in accordance with subsection (7) of this section,
    except that such certification shall be made within seven days after the
    canvassing of the votes. The appeal process of subsection (7) of this
    section shall apply, except that any appeal shall be filed within five days
    after the determination by the Secretary of State.

    (4) Each person who wishes to have his or her name placed on the
    general election ballot as a candidate for President or Vice President
    of the United States shall first meet the eligibility requirements of
    Article II, section 1, of the Constitution of the United States. Such
    person shall submit an affidavit to the Secretary of State along with
    supporting documentation as specified in subsections (5) and (6) of this
    section by September 8 of the year in which the election is scheduled.
    The affidavit and supporting documentation shall be a public record.

    (5) The affidavit shall be sworn or affirmed before a notary public
    and shall contain statements substantially as follows:
    • I was born a citizen of the United States of America and was subject
      exclusively to the jurisdiction of the United States of America,
      owing allegiance to no other country at the time of my birth. On the day
      I was born, both my birth mother and birth father were citizens of the
      United States of America. As further evidence of the above statements,
      I have attached the items required in subsection (6) of this section.

      As of inauguration day, ........ (insert year office will be assumed upon election),
      I will have obtained the age of thirty-five years and will have resided in the
      United States of America for at least fourteen years, including the following
      periods at the corresponding address(es) (add additional sheets if necessary):
    (6) (a) Each candidate for President or Vice President of the United States shall
    • [list:3n9v3dc4](i) attach documents as indicated in each of the three requirements
      in the following subdivisions, some of which require multiple documents,

      (ii) state in the affidavit which required documents are attached that
      meet such requirements, and

      (iii) include in the affidavit, statements substantially as indicated in this
      subsection as applicable.

    (b) Requirement number one: One of the following in subdivision (i) or (ii) of this subdivision:
    • (i) A certified copy of my first original long-form birth certificate issued shortly
      after the time of my birth; or

      (ii) Only if the document described in subdivision (i) of this subdivision
      is not obtainable under the laws of the state that issued my birth certificate,
      then both documents described in subdivisions (A) and (B) of this subdivision:[list:3n9v3dc4]
      (A) A certified copy of my certification of live birth which includes
      the names of my birth parents who are listed on my first original
      long-form birth certificate issued shortly after the time of my birth; and

      (B) A sworn and acknowledged affidavit by me stating that my parents'
      names contained on my certification of live birth are the same
      birth parent names as contained on my first original birth certificate;
    [/list:u:3n9v3dc4]
    (c) Requirement number two: One of the following in subdivision (i) or (ii) or (iii)
    or (iv) or (v) of this subdivision:
    • (i) A certified copy of my birth mother's long-form birth certificate indicating
      her United States citizenship;

      (ii) Only if the document described in subdivision (i) of this subdivision is not
      obtainable under the laws of the state that issued my mother's birth certificate,
      then both documents described in subdivisions (A) and (B) of this subdivision:[list:3n9v3dc4]
      (A) A certified copy of my mother's certification of live birth indicating
      her United States citizenship; and

      (B) A sworn and acknowledged affidavit by me stating my mother's place
      of birth as denoted on her long-form birth certificate and stating that
      her parents' names contained on her certification of live birth are the
      same parent names as contained on her long-form birth certificate;

    (iii) My birth mother's Certificate of United States Naturalization showing
    she obtained United States citizenship prior to my date of birth;

    (iv) My birth mother's Certificate of United States Citizenship showing
    she obtained United States citizenship prior to my date of birth; or

    (v) Certified copies of documents that indicate my mother was a United
    States citizen prior to my birth, being the same documents as those
    required to obtain a Certificate of United States Citizenship; and[/list:u:3n9v3dc4]
    (d) Requirement number three: One of the following in subdivision (i) or (ii) or (iii)
    or (iv) or (v) or (vi) of this subdivision:
    • (i) A certified copy of my birth father's long-form birth certificate indicating
      his United States citizenship;

      (ii) Only if the document described in subdivision (i) of this subdivision is not
      obtainable under the laws of the state that issued my father's birth certificate,
      then both documents described in subdivisions (A) and (B) of this subdivision:[list:3n9v3dc4]
      (A) A certified copy of my father's certification of live birth indicating
      his United States citizenship; and

      (B) A sworn and acknowledged affidavit by me stating my father's place
      of birth as denoted on his long-form birth certificate and stating that
      his parents' names contained on his certification of live birth are the
      same parent names as contained on his long-form birth certificate;

    (iii) My birth father's Certificate of United States Naturalization showing
    he obtained United States citizenship prior to my date of birth;

    (iv) My birth father's Certificate of United States Citizenship showing
    he obtained United States citizenship prior to my date of birth;

    (v) Certified copies of documents that indicate my father was a United
    States citizen prior to my birth, being the same documents as those
    required to obtain a Certificate of United States Citizenship; or

    (vi) A sworn and acknowledged affidavit by me stating that
    • (A) no father is listed on my first original long-form birth certificate,

      (B) I do not know who my birth father is, and

      (C) I have no reason to believe my birth father was not a United States
      citizen at the time of my birth.
    [/list:u:3n9v3dc4][/list:u:3n9v3dc4](7) The Secretary of State shall make the completed affidavit and
    supporting documentation submitted pursuant to subsections (4)
    through (6) of this section available for public inspection at his or
    her office within one business day of receipt. The Secretary of State
    shall determine and certify the candidates' constitutional eligibility on
    or before September 17 of the year in which the election is scheduled.
    The Secretary of State shall certify only those candidates who have
    completed notarized affidavits as prescribed in this section and who
    have provided all required accompanying documentation. The
    certification of the Secretary of State shall be final, except that a
    candidate or any registered voter who was registered to vote in
    Nebraska prior to the certification may appeal the determination to
    the district court of Lancaster County by the following October 1.
    A person who files an appeal in accordance with this section shall
    have standing in the district court with regard to this matter.

    Sec. 2. Section 32-714, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska, is amended to read:

    32-714 (1) The Governor shall provide each presidential elector
    with a list of all the electors. If any elector is absent or if there is a
    deficiency in the proper number of electors, those present shall
    elect from the citizens of the state so many persons as will supply
    the deficiency and immediately issue a certificate of election,
    signed by those present or a majority of them, to the person or
    persons so chosen. In case of failure to elect by 3 p.m. of such
    day, the Governor shall fill the vacancies by appointment. After all
    vacancies are filled, the college of electors shall proceed with the
    election of a President of the United States and a Vice President
    of the United States and certify their votes in conformity with the
    Constitution and laws of the United States.

    (2) Each at-large presidential elector shall cast his or her ballot for
    the presidential and vice-presidential candidates who received the
    highest number of votes in the state. Each congressional district
    presidential elector shall cast his or her ballot for the presidential
    and vice-presidential candidates who received the highest number
    of votes in his or her congressional district.

    (3) It is unlawful for any presidential elector from Nebraska to cast
    his or her electoral college vote for a candidate who is not certified
    by the Secretary of State as constitutionally eligible to serve in
    accordance with section 32-620. Any presidential elector violating
    this subsection shall be guilty of a Class IV felony.

    Sec. 3. Section 32-813, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska, is amended to read:

    32-813 (1) The names of all candidates and all proposals to be
    voted upon at the general election shall be arranged upon the
    ballot in parts separated from each other by bold lines in the order
    the offices and proposals are set forth in this section. If any office
    is not subject to the upcoming election, the office shall be omitted
    from the ballot and the remaining offices shall move up so that the
    same relative order is preserved. The order of any offices may be
    altered to allow for the best utilization of ballot space in order to
    avoid printing a second ballot when one ballot would be sufficient
    if an optical-scan ballot is used. All proposals on the ballot shall
    remain separate from the offices, and the proposals shall follow
    all offices on the ballot.

    (2)
    • (a) If the election is in a year in which a President of the
      United States is to be elected, the names and spaces for
      voting for candidates for President and Vice President shall be
      entitled Presidential Ticket in boldface type.

      (b) The names of candidates for President and Vice President
      for each political party shall be grouped together, and each group
      shall be enclosed with brackets with the political party name next
      to the brackets and one square or oval opposite the names in
      which the voter indicates his or her choice.

      (c) The names of candidates for President and Vice President
      who have successfully petitioned on the ballot for the general
      election shall be grouped together with the candidates appearing
      on the same petition being grouped together, and each group
      shall be enclosed with brackets with the words "By Petition" next
      to the brackets and one square or oval opposite the names in
      which the voter indicates his or her choice.

      (d) Beneath the names of the candidates for President and
      Vice President certified by the officers of the national political
      party conventions pursuant to section 32-620 and
      beneath the names of all candidates for President and Vice
      President placed on the general election ballot by petition,
      two write-in lines shall be provided in which the voter may fill
      in the names of the candidates of his or her choice. The lines
      shall be enclosed with brackets with one square or oval
      opposite the names in which the voter indicates his or her
      choice. The name appearing on the top line shall be
      considered to be the candidate for President, and the name
      appearing on the second line shall be considered to be the
      candidate for Vice President.
    (3) The names and spaces for voting for candidates for
    United States Senator if any are to be elected shall be entitled
    United States Senatorial Ticket in boldface type.

    (4) The names and spaces for voting for candidates for
    Representatives in Congress shall be entitled Congressional Ticket
    in boldface type. Above the candidates' names, the office shall
    be designated For Representative in Congress ...... District.

    (5) The names and spaces for voting for candidates for the
    various state officers shall be entitled State Ticket in boldface
    type. Each set of candidates shall be separated by lines
    across the column, and above each set of candidates shall
    be designated the office for which they are candidates,
    arranged in the order prescribed by the Secretary of State.
    The candidates for Governor of each political party receiving
    the highest number of votes in the primary election shall be
    grouped together with their respective candidates for
    Lieutenant Governor. Each group shall be enclosed with
    brackets with the political party name next to the brackets and
    one square or oval opposite the names in which the voter
    indicates his or her choice for Governor and Lieutenant
    Governor jointly. The candidates for Governor and Lieutenant
    Governor who have successfully petitioned on the general
    election ballot shall be grouped together with the candidates
    appearing on the same petition being grouped together.
    Each group shall be enclosed with brackets with the words
    "By Petition" next to the brackets and one square or oval
    opposite the names in which the voter indicates his or her
    choice for Governor and Lieutenant Governor jointly.
    Beneath the names of the candidates for Governor
    nominated at a primary election by political party and their
    respective candidates for Lieutenant Governor and beneath
    the names of all candidates for Governor and Lieutenant
    Governor placed on the general election ballot by petition,
    one write-in line shall be provided in which the registered
    voter may fill in the name of the candidate for Governor
    of his or her choice and one square or oval opposite the
    line in which the voter indicates his or her choice for
    Governor.

    (6) The names and spaces for voting for nonpartisan
    candidates shall be entitled Nonpartisan Ticket in boldface
    type. The names of all nonpartisan candidates shall appear
    in the order listed in this subsection, except that when using
    an optical-scan ballot, the order of offices may be altered to
    allow for the best utilization of ballot space to avoid printing
    a second ballot when one ballot would be sufficient:
    • (a) Legislature;
      (b) State Board of Education;
      (c) Board of Regents of the University of Nebraska;
      (d) Chief Justice of the Supreme Court;
      (e) Judge of the Supreme Court;
      (f) Judge of the Court of Appeals;
      (g) Judge of the Nebraska Workers' Compensation Court;
      (h) Judge of the District Court;
      (i) Judge of the Separate Juvenile Court;
      (j) Judge of the County Court; and
      (k) County officers in the order prescribed by the election commissioner or county clerk.
    (7) The names and spaces for voting for the various county
    offices and for measures submitted to the county vote only
    or in only a part of the county shall be entitled County Ticket
    in boldface type. If the election commissioner or county clerk
    deems it advisable, the measures may be submitted on a
    separate ballot if using a paper ballot or on either side of
    an optical-scan ballot if the ballot is placed in a ballot
    envelope or sleeve before being deposited in a ballot box.

    (8 ) The candidates for office in the precinct only or in the
    city or village only shall be printed on the ballot, except that
    if the election commissioner or county clerk deems it
    advisable, candidates for these offices may be submitted
    on a separate ballot if using a paper ballot or in either side
    of an optical-scan ballot if the ballot is placed in a ballot
    envelope or sleeve before being deposited in a ballot box.

    (9) All proposals submitted by initiative or referendum and
    proposals for constitutional amendments shall be placed
    on a separate ballot when a paper ballot is used which
    requires that the ballot after being voted be folded before
    being deposited in a ballot box. When an optical-scan
    ballot is used which requires a ballot envelope or sleeve
    in which the ballot after being voted is placed before being
    deposited in a ballot box, initiative or referendum proposals
    and proposals for constitutional amendments may be placed
    on either side of the ballot, shall be separated by a bold line,
    and shall follow all other offices placed on the same side of
    the ballot. Initiative or referendum proposals and
    constitutional amendments so arranged shall constitute a
    separate ballot. Proposals for constitutional amendments
    proposed by the Legislature shall be placed on the ballot
    as provided in sections 49-201 to 49-211.

    Sec. 4. Original sections 32-620, 32-714, and 32-813,
    Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska, are repealed.

    Sec. 5. The following section is outright repealed:
    Section 32-712, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska.
    One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.

    Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
    tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.

    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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    [quote=MinutemanCDC_SC]With a hat tip and a thank you to natborncit, here is the text of the Nebraska eligibility bill.
    [I added indentations.]
    http://nebraskalegislature.gov/FloorDoc ... /LB654.pdf


    Quote Originally Posted by "[url=http://nebraskalegislature.gov/FloorDocs/Current/PDF/Intro/LB654.pdf
    Authors of the Nebraska eligibility bill[/url]":2wm0nbd3]LEGISLATURE OF NEBRASKA
    ONE HUNDRED SECOND LEGISLATURE
    FIRST SESSION


    LEGISLATIVE BILL 654


    Introduced by Christensen, 44.
    Read first time January 19, 2011
    Committee: Government, Military and Veterans Affairs


    A BILL
    FOR AN ACT relating to elections;
    to amend sections 32-620, 32-714, and 32-813, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska;
    to provide filing requirements for candidates for President and Vice President of the United States;
    to provide powers and duties for the Secretary of State;
    to prohibit certain acts by presidential electors;
    to provide a penalty;
    to harmonize provisions;
    to repeal the original sections; and
    to outright repeal section 32-712, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska.

    Be it enacted by the people of the State of Nebraska,

    Section 1. Section 32-620, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska, is amended to read:

    32-620 (1) No later than September 8 prior to any general election
    at which candidates for President and Vice President of the United States
    are to be voted upon by the registered voters of this state, the
    appropriate officer or officers of each national political party
    convention shall certify to the Secretary of State the names and
    addresses of the candidates for the offices of President and Vice
    President of the United States which that party wishes to have appear
    on the general election ballot. Such certification shall include the
    affidavits and supporting documentation required under subsections (4)
    through (6) of this section.

    (2) Candidates for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States
    of newly established political parties or of nonpartisan status may obtain
    general election ballot position by filing with the Secretary of State:
    • (1) (a) An application containing:[list:2wm0nbd3](a) (i) The name or names to be printed on the ballot;
      (b) (ii) The status of the candidacy, whether nonpartisan
      or partisan;
      (c) (iii) The written consent of the designated vice-presidential candidate
      to have his or her name printed on the ballot; and
      (iv) The affidavits and supporting documentation required
      under subsections (4) through (6) of this section; and
      (d) (v) The names and addresses of the persons who will represent
      the applicant as presidential elector candidates together with the
      written consent of such persons to become candidates; and

    (2) (b) A petition signed by not less than two thousand five hundred
    registered voters. Such petitions shall conform to the requirements
    of section 32-628 and shall not be circulated until after the date of
    the primary election in that election year. Registered voters who
    voted in the primary election of any political party that held a
    presidential preference primary election that year shall be ineligible
    to sign the petitions of any other candidate for president.[/list:u:2wm0nbd3](3) If write-in candidates for President and Vice President of the
    United States receive the most votes in a general election as canvassed
    by the board of state canvassers, such candidates shall file with the
    Secretary of State, within five days after the canvass of votes, the
    affidavits and supporting documentation required under subsections (4)
    through (6) of this section. The Secretary of State shall make the
    determination and certification of the candidates' eligibility in
    accordance with subsection (7) of this section, except that such
    certification shall be made within seven days after the canvassing of
    the votes. The appeal process of subsection (7) of this section shall
    apply, except that any appeal shall be filed within five days after the
    determination by the Secretary of State.

    (4) Each person who wishes to have his or her name placed on the
    general election ballot as a candidate for President or Vice President
    of the United States shall first meet the eligibility requirements of
    Article II, section 1, of the Constitution of the United States. Such
    person shall submit an affidavit to the Secretary of State along with
    supporting documentation as specified in subsections (5) and (6) of this
    section by September 8 of the year in which the election is scheduled.
    The affidavit and supporting documentation shall be a public record.

    (5) The affidavit shall be sworn or affirmed before a notary public
    and shall contain statements substantially as follows:
    • I was born a citizen of the United States of America and was subject
      exclusively to the jurisdiction of the United States of America,
      owing allegiance to no other country at the time of my birth. On the day
      I was born, both my birth mother and birth father were citizens of the
      United States of America. As further evidence of the above statements,
      I have attached the items required in subsection (6) of this section.

      As of inauguration day, ........ (insert year office will be assumed upon election),
      I will have obtained the age of thirty-five years and will have resided in the
      United States of America for at least fourteen years, including the following
      periods at the corresponding address(es) (add additional sheets if necessary):
    (6) (a) Each candidate for President or Vice President of the United States shall
    • [list:2wm0nbd3](i) attach documents as indicated in each of the three requirements
      in the following subdivisions, some of which require multiple documents,

      (ii) state in the affidavit which required documents are attached
      that meet such requirements, and

      (iii) include in the affidavit, statements substantially as indicated
      in this subsection as applicable.

    (b) Requirement number one: One of the following in subdivision (i) or (ii) of this subdivision:

    • (i) A certified copy of my first original long-form birth certificate
      issued shortly after the time of my birth; or

      (ii) Only if the document described in subdivision (i) of this subdivision
      is not obtainable under the laws of the state that issued my birth certificate,
      then both documents described in subdivisions (A) and (B) of this subdivision:[list:2wm0nbd3]
      (A) A certified copy of my certification of live birth which includes
      the names of my birth parents who are listed on my first original
      long-form birth certificate issued shortly after the time of my birth; and

      (B) A sworn and acknowledged affidavit by me stating that my parents names
      contained on my certification of live birth are the same birth parent names
      as contained on my first original birth certificate;

      (C) Requirement number two: One of the following in subdivision (i) or (ii) or (iii) or (iv) or (v) of this subdivision:[list:2wm0nbd3]
      (i) A certified copy of my birth mother's long-form birth certificate
      indicating her United States citizenship;

      (ii) Only if the document described in subdivision (i) of this subdivision is not
      obtainable under the laws of the state that issued my mother's birth certificate,
      then both documents described in subdivisions (A) and (B) of this subdivision:[list:2wm0nbd3]
      (A) A certified copy of my mother's certification of live birth
      indicating her United States citizenship; and

      (B) A sworn and acknowledged affidavit by me stating my mother's place
      of birth as denoted on her long-form birth certificate and stating that
      her parents names contained on her certification of live birth are the
      same parent names as contained on her long-form birth certificate;

    (iii) My birth mother's Certificate of United States Naturalization
    showing she obtained United States citizenship prior to my date of birth;

    (iv) My birth mother's Certificate of United States Citizenship showing
    she obtained United States citizenship prior to my date of birth; or

    (v) Certified copies of documents that indicate my mother was a United
    States citizen prior to my birth, being the same documents as those
    required to obtain a Certificate of United States Citizenship; and[/list:u:2wm0nbd3]
    (D) Requirement number three: One of the following in subdivision (i) or (ii) or (iii) or (iv) or (v) or (vi) of this subdivision:
    • (i) A certified copy of my birth father's long-form birth certificate
      indicating his United States citizenship;

      (ii) Only if the document described in subdivision (i) of this subdivision is not
      obtainable under the laws of the state that issued my father's birth certificate,
      then both documents described in subdivisions (A) and (B) of this subdivision:[list:2wm0nbd3]
      (A) A certified copy of my father's certification of live birth
      indicating his United States citizenship; and

      (B) A sworn and acknowledged affidavit by me stating my father's place
      of birth as denoted on his long-form birth certificate and stating that
      his parents names contained on his certification of live birth are the
      same parent names as contained on his long-form birth certificate;

    (iii) My birth father's Certificate of United States Naturalization
    showing he obtained United States citizenship prior to my date of birth;

    (iv) My birth father's Certificate of United States Citizenship showing
    he obtained United States citizenship prior to my date of birth;

    (v) Certified copies of documents that indicate my father was a United
    States citizen prior to my birth, being the same documents as those
    required to obtain a Certificate of United States Citizenship; or

    (vi) A sworn and acknowledged affidavit by me stating that
    • (A) no father is listed on my first original long-form birth certificate,
      (B) I do not know who my birth father is and
      (C) I have no reason to believe my birth father was not a United States citizen at the time of my birth.
    [/list:u:2wm0nbd3][/list:u:2wm0nbd3][/list:u:2wm0nbd3][/list:u:2wm0nbd3](7) The Secretary of State shall make the completed affidavit and
    supporting documentation submitted pursuant to subsections (4)
    through (6) of this section available for public inspection at his or
    her office within one business day of receipt.
    The Secretary of State shall determine and certify the candidates'
    constitutional eligibility on or before September 17 of the year in
    which the election is scheduled. The Secretary of State shall certify
    only those candidates who have completed notarized affidavits as
    prescribed in this section and who have provided all required
    accompanying documentation. The certification of the Secretary of
    State shall be final, except that a candidate or any registered voter
    who was registered to vote in Nebraska prior to the certification may
    appeal the determination to the district court of Lancaster County by
    the following October 1. A person who files an appeal in accordance
    with this section shall have standing in the district court with
    regard to this matter.

    Sec. 2. Section 32-714, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska, is amended to read:

    32-714 (1) The Governor shall provide each presidential elector
    with a list of all the electors. If any elector is absent or
    if there is a deficiency in the proper number of electors, those
    present shall elect from the citizens of the state so many persons as
    will supply the deficiency and immediately issue a certificate of
    election, signed by those present or a majority of them, to the
    person or persons so chosen. In case of failure to elect by 3 p.m. of
    such day, the Governor shall fill the vacancies by appointment. After
    all vacancies are filled, the college of electors shall proceed with
    the election of a President of the United States and a Vice President
    of the United States and certify their votes in conformity with the
    Constitution and laws of the United States.

    (2) Each at-large presidential elector shall cast his or
    her ballot for the presidential and vice-presidential candidates who
    received the highest number of votes in the state. Each congressional
    district presidential elector shall cast his or her ballot for the
    presidential and vice-presidential candidates who received the
    highest number of votes in his or her congressional district.

    (3) It is unlawful for any presidential elector from Nebraska to cast
    his or her electoral college vote for a candidate who is not certified
    by the Secretary of State as constitutionally eligible to serve
    in accordance with section 32-620. Any presidential elector violating
    this subsection shall be guilty of a Class IV felony.

    Sec. 3. Section 32-813, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska, is amended to read:

    32-813 (1) The names of all candidates and all proposals
    to be voted upon at the general election shall be arranged upon the
    ballot in parts separated from each other by bold lines in the order
    the offices and proposals are set forth in this section. If any
    office is not subject to the upcoming election, the office shall be
    omitted from the ballot and the remaining offices shall move up so
    that the same relative order is preserved. The order of any offices
    may be altered to allow for the best utilization of ballot space in
    order to avoid printing a second ballot when one ballot would be
    sufficient if an optical-scan ballot is used. All proposals on the
    ballot shall remain separate from the offices, and the proposals
    shall follow all offices on the ballot.

    (2) (a) If the election is in a year in which a President
    • of the United States is to be elected, the names and spaces for
      voting for candidates for President and Vice President shall be
      entitled Presidential Ticket in boldface type.

      (b) The names of candidates for President and Vice President for
      each political party shall be grouped together, and
      each group shall be enclosed with brackets with the political party
      name next to the brackets and one square or oval opposite the names
      in which the voter indicates his or her choice.

      (c) The names of candidates for President and Vice President who have
      successfully petitioned on the ballot for the general election shall
      be grouped together with the candidates appearing on the same petition
      being grouped together, and each group shall be enclosed with brackets
      with the words "By Petition" next to the brackets and one square or
      oval opposite the names in which the voter indicates his or her choice.

      (d) Beneath the names of the candidates for President and
      Vice President certified by the officers of the national political
      party conventions pursuant to section 32-712 32-620 and beneath the
      names of all candidates for President and Vice President placed on
      the general election ballot by petition, two write-in lines shall be
      provided in which the voter may fill in the names of the candidates
      of his or her choice. The lines shall be enclosed with brackets with
      one square or oval opposite the names in which the voter indicates
      his or her choice. The name appearing on the top line shall be
      considered to be the candidate for President, and the name appearing
      on the second line shall be considered to be the candidate for Vice
      President.
    (3) The names and spaces for voting for candidates for
    United States Senator if any are to be elected shall be entitled
    United States Senatorial Ticket in boldface type.

    (4) The names and spaces for voting for candidates for
    Representatives in Congress shall be entitled Congressional Ticket in
    boldface type. Above the candidates' names, the office shall be
    designated For Representative in Congress ...... District.

    (5) The names and spaces for voting for candidates for
    the various state officers shall be entitled State Ticket in boldface
    type. Each set of candidates shall be separated by lines across the
    column, and above each set of candidates shall be designated the
    office for which they are candidates, arranged in the order
    prescribed by the Secretary of State. The candidates for Governor of
    each political party receiving the highest number of votes in the
    primary election shall be grouped together with their respective
    candidates for Lieutenant Governor. Each group shall be enclosed with
    brackets with the political party name next to the brackets and one
    square or oval opposite the names in which the voter indicates his or
    her choice for Governor and Lieutenant Governor jointly. The
    candidates for Governor and Lieutenant Governor who have successfully
    petitioned on the general election ballot shall be grouped together
    with the candidates appearing on the same petition being grouped
    together. Each group shall be enclosed with brackets with the words
    "By Petition" next to the brackets and one square or oval opposite
    the names in which the voter indicates his or her choice for Governor
    and Lieutenant Governor jointly. Beneath the names of the candidates
    for Governor nominated at a primary election by political party and
    their respective candidates for Lieutenant Governor and beneath the
    names of all candidates for Governor and Lieutenant Governor placed
    on the general election ballot by petition, one write-in line shall
    be provided in which the registered voter may fill in the name of the
    candidate for Governor of his or her choice and one square or oval
    opposite the line in which the voter indicates his or her choice for
    Governor.

    (6) The names and spaces for voting for nonpartisan candidates shall be
    entitled Nonpartisan Ticket in boldface type. The names of all nonpartisan
    candidates shall appear in the order listed in this subsection, except that
    when using an optical-scan ballot, the order of offices may be altered to
    allow for the best utilization of ballot space to avoid printing a second
    ballot when one ballot would be sufficient:
    • (a) Legislature;
      (b) State Board of Education;
      (c) Board of Regents of the University of Nebraska;
      (d) Chief Justice of the Supreme Court;
      (e) Judge of the Supreme Court;
      (f) Judge of the Court of Appeals;
      (g) Judge of the Nebraska Workers' Compensation Court;
      (h) Judge of the District Court;
      (i) Judge of the Separate Juvenile Court;
      (j) Judge of the County Court; and
      (k) County officers in the order prescribed by the election commissioner or county clerk.
    (7) The names and spaces for voting for the various
    county offices and for measures submitted to the county vote only or
    in only a part of the county shall be entitled County Ticket in
    boldface type. If the election commissioner or county clerk deems it
    advisable, the measures may be submitted on a separate ballot if
    using a paper ballot or on either side of an optical-scan ballot if
    the ballot is placed in a ballot envelope or sleeve before being
    deposited in a ballot box.

    (8 ) The candidates for office in the precinct only or in
    the city or village only shall be printed on the ballot, except that
    if the election commissioner or county clerk deems it advisable,
    candidates for these offices may be submitted on a separate ballot if
    using a paper ballot or on either side of an optical-scan ballot if
    the ballot is placed in a ballot envelope or sleeve before being
    deposited in a ballot box.

    (9) All proposals submitted by initiative or referendum
    and proposals for constitutional amendments shall be placed on a
    separate ballot when a paper ballot is used which requires that the
    ballot after being voted be folded before being deposited in a ballot
    box. When an optical-scan ballot is used which requires a ballot
    envelope or sleeve in which the ballot after being voted is placed
    before being deposited in a ballot box, initiative or referendum
    proposals and proposals for constitutional amendments may be placed
    on either side of the ballot, shall be separated by a bold line, and
    shall follow all other offices placed on the same side of the ballot.
    Initiative or referendum proposals and constitutional amendments so
    arranged shall constitute a separate ballot. Proposals for
    constitutional amendments proposed by the Legislature shall be placed
    on the ballot as provided in sections 49-201 to 49-211.

    Sec. 4. Original sections 32-620, 32-714, and 32-813,
    Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska, are repealed.

    Sec. 5. The following section is outright repealed:
    Section 32-712, Reissue Revised Statutes of Nebraska.
    [/quote:2wm0nbd3]

    It's beyond the comprehension of my pea size peasant brain to understand why states would EVER find it necessary to draft bills to validate and ensure the eligibility of a POTUS candidate. Unbelievable!! Think about it! It looks like to me that the states are sending a clear message to the federal government "We don't trust you to do your job so we are going to protect ourselves." Isn't this exactly what a state might do before it finally secedes and declares it's independence? Is this what we're coming to?
    ...I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid...

    William Barret Travis
    Letter From The Alamo Feb 24, 1836

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    Legislation is necessary because each state legislature decides how to select it's Presidential Electors. Currently all state's choose to do it by a popular vote. (All states except Nebraska and Maine give the winner of the statewide popular vote all it's electroal votes. Nebraska and Maine allocate a portion of their electoral votes according to the popular vote by congressional district.)

    Since the voting for President is actually 50 separate state elections (all held on the same day), it is up to each state to administer it's presidential election under it's state election laws.

    The memo at this web site
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/41131059/CRS- ... -Questions

    from the Congressional Research Service confirms that there is NO federal eligibility check for president (see paragraphs 2-4).

    Nebraska's proposed legislation would also make it a felony for a Presidential Elector from the state to vote for a candidate who is not certified by the Secretary of State as eligible.

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