Thread: Shocking Lou Dobbs Video! Opinions Needed ASAP

If Lou Dobbs feels the need to apologize, embrace, pander... or what ever you want to call it to the Hispanic community, that's just fine with me. What is not acceptable is giving amnesty to anyone who has entered this country illegally and is not going through the asylum process. Lou Dobbs should never back down from the truth he has spoken in the past.

Frankly, I need some direct answers and clarity about the statements he made about illegal immigration on Telemundo.

That's where the rubber meets the road.

Dixie

PS There are many places to seek asylum. You don't have to cross 10 countries, where the citizens speak your language, to seek asylum in the US.

My initial reaction was one of wanting more detail. I think I would need a lot more information and clarification from him to know what he is getting at here. I think he is very much for border security and national sovereignty. I also know from his past comments on air that he wants to find a good solution to the problem of illegal immigration, which, for him in the past included some kind of electronic monitoring of illegal aliens, which I personally would NOT like to see applied to ANYONE, legal or illegal. I do think he is taking a more political angle, and that may indeed dilute, rather enhance, his effectiveness. Folks like you all ought to begin to challenge and engage him in more conversation and force him to detail more comprehensively what his real thoughts are on this issue. I like Lou and he has had some excellent ideas about how to make this country both free in the Constitutional sense, and in terms of common sense free enterprise, and has had some amazingly forward-looking ideas about energy production and so forth. I would rather see him lead people in the realm of ideas and debate, than to see him run as a politician however. He will tend to compromise away, I think, too much of what is truly important, in the interests of political expediency. In politics, we need people with very strong values, and the will to defend them.

My two cents worth.

It seems that much of what was said was to appease his attacker… there is no doubt of that. I would have to have much more information before I would completely turn against him…but I was not pleased with some of what I heard. There was little chance for him to explain any of his thoughts before she went on the attack again. Just what are the "special circumstances"? Yes, we need to secure the boarder. He did defend the sheriff...but could have been stronger in his defense.

No excuses for him, period ! He lied to us all .

Your either for this nations soverienty or you aren't .

He's a multi-millionair [ which is fine ] who can leave if things get bad, the rest of us have no choice . I despise him now .

WHY GO ON TLELEMUNDO TO BEGIN WITH ? Why does he need their support or care what the criminals want ? All who conspire with criminals are criminals themselves .

That sorry creep fooled me and now I'm mad at myself for being so blind .

This is one time when being poor is a good thing ,at least I didn't give to him .

He proved he has no charactor .

Hope everyone Is prepared to fight.... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/ ... ag=topnews

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...ml?tag=topnews

(AP)

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(AP) Beyond the noisy town hall meetings, Tea Party protests and sky-is-falling speeches characterizing much of the health care debate is a less visible, but no less intense push to broaden the face of the immigration reform movement.

With the 2010 election year looming, Democrat Barack Obama in the White House and increasing numbers of Asian-American and Pacific Islanders in Congress, many groups, including the NAACP, are working harder in the traditionally Latino-led movement, sensing a fresh opportunity to overhaul laws affecting millions of immigrants, both legal and illegal.

"For far too long, the Latino population in the U.S. has really borne the brunt of the anti-immigrant sentiment," said Rep. Yvette Clarke.

National Association for Advancement of Colored People Washington bureau director Hillary Shelton said: "The immigration debate needs to have, in addition to a Latino face, it needs to have a Haitian face. It needs to have an Asian face."

Unquestionably, the immigration issue is a temperature's-rising matter; opinions are strong, in some cases ranging to demands to close the borders. And no small part of the renewed impetus for revamping the system are the increasing immigrant crackdowns.

Against this backdrop, the collection of voices clamoring for overhaul is expanding - Caribbean-Americans, evangelical churches, labor unions and law enforcement, besides the NAACP. And businesses, too, are becoming increasingly active.

"It's a Godsend," said Arturo Vargas executive director of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials. "We have been trying to make the argument, unsuccessfully in many respects, that immigration is not just a Latino issue because others are affected - Asians, Russians, Africans ... At it's core, this is about the future viability of this country."

The immigration reform movement hasn't been devoid of diversity over the years, however.

Catholic, Jewish, Lutheran, Christian and other churches and faiths have been active leaders. In 2006 and 2007, people wearing T-shirts emblazoned with "Legalize The Irish" in green letters were common sights around the U.S. Capitol. Even immigration groups in Caribbean American communities have participated.

But because the overwhelming majority of immigrants are coming from Mexico and Latin America, the push for a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million undocumented has been led largely by Latinos. It was mostly Latino immigrants who turned out for the 2006 marches against immigration crackdowns, for instance. It was a massive showing, stoked in part by Spanish-language radio and television.

Thomas Saenz, president and general counsel of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, has said he fully expects work on rewriting immigration law to begin in Congress next year. But he also said Congress may have to deal with it on a piecemeal approach if Democratic leaders delay because of the elections and a hostile political climate.

For his part, Obama said in September he believed that remaking immigration policy would be difficult, "but I think we can get it done." But he has not suggested a timetable.

Meanwhile, proponents of immigration reform are stepping efforts to expand their ranks, and present a more diversified face at the same time.

Part of the problem is that black and Latino communities have divided in the past over illegal immigration reform. There has been friction - and in some communities continues to be - over whether illegal immigrants take jobs from black Americans.

But Clarke, a second-generation American whose parents immigrated from Jamaica and the West Indies, said many in the black community, which includes many African, Caribbean and black Latino communities, realize that ignoring the immigration reform movement means giving up the chance to ensure that the unique problems of black immigrants are addressed.

California Democratic Rep. Mike Honda, a Japanese American, said he wants to make sure reforms address the long waiting periods that Asian Americans/Pacific Islanders face to get visas to legally enter the country and to help lesbian/gay/bisexual and transgender communities have equal chances to bring their loved ones to this country.

"We are being asked to lead. At 29 members strong, we are weighing in with newfound force to ensure Asian American/Pacific Islanders are included in immigration reform," Honda said.

"No longer will we be silent on issues of immigration reform," Bishop Orlando Findlayter, head of Churches United to Save and Heal, a coalition of Carribean-American clergy, said last month. A few moments later, about 100 ministers, pastors and others crossed Independence Avenue in Washington to join him in lobbying members for immigration changes.

The increased intensity behind the movement has been palpable, with many faces and organizations pitching. Activism is on the rise.

- Rep. Luis Gutierrez led immigration reform meetings in various churches. And more than 60,000 people attended "house parties" this month and listened in on a conference call with Gutierrez and other members of Congress.

- Lennox Abrigo, pastor of Seventh-Day New Covenant Church in Maryland said the pastors have a Dec. 2 meeting at the White House. He said they have seen increases in immigrants in their congregations and increases in the problems faced by those in the country both legally and illegally.

"Members in our church have been deported ... Families are disrupted. We have families broken up just like it was done in the period of slavery," Abrigo said.

- The National Council of Evangelicals, representing 40 denominations including the Assemblies of God and Church of the Nazarene, recently issued a resolution backing immigration reform.

Originally Posted by cclarkkent

Thank you William...

Lets just hope a 100 years from now, we are still celebrating Thanksgiving! The way this country is going, I think we might be lucky in 50 years if we still have Thanksgiving.


Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

Be Thankful for what you have as Americans and value your freedoms to celebrate this day! Where I am working right now, there is no Thanksgiving or Christmas!


Matt

You're about 10 times more optimistic than me cclark... I figure (and especially after reading the CBS News story above) about 5 years tops...

Someone has not even read our laws.......Did any of them ever hear about "The Seperation Between Church and State"?
Obviously they don't have a clue on what the meaning is...

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

Someone has not even read our laws.......Did any of them ever hear about "The Seperation Between Church and State"?
Obviously they don't have a clue on what the meaning is...

Lost me on that one mkfarnam. What exactly do you mean???