Thread: I have changed my mind to amnesty

Teaching kidlings in grades 7-12 I have noticed several things about the current crop of unadults. I mentioned a few of my observations in other posts so will not repeat them here.

But, I will repeat that the VAST majority of youth never watch the TV news, do not read newspapers, do not read any non-fiction book unless required and even then often fail to do that required reading.

The majority of youth are grossly uninformed of anything outside their peer group interests or whatever forms of entertainment they pursue.

There are always exceptions but, they are rare. So very rare. Sadly so.

I think alot of Americans are scared of change and are very selfish just my opinion

I'm new enough here that I don't know where the vote is supposed to be registered, but I say ban this guy.

banned for my opinion wow?
I have followed all rules here!

I Hate to agree that he should be banned, but Now I agree.

When someone says that Americans are selfish, that is a rediculous point.

Go and travel around the rest of the world and ask them to give and make sacrifices the way that Americans have.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

But you have so much No clue...that you are saying silly and brainless things...


Greyerhat

Originally Posted by Joelous

I think amnesty should only be given to illegals that pay taxes and are not criminals how would they hurt us

Appears to me that your ego requires answers that are directed to you... when, those answers have been written and posted innumerable times on this message board.

Up at the top of the pages you can find this little thingy that utilizes the power of hypertext markup language aka HTML:

"Search"

By devoting some time and a wee bit of effort you could find a plethora of answers, assuredly enough to not only answer any questions you could concoct but also answers to questions you would likely never think of!!!!

Imagine.... a veritable treasure trove of information merely requiring the energy to move thine digits and enough time devoted to peruse the print magically appearing before thine eyes.

How about 3 or 4 hours of true effort reading material already posted then returning to pose thine questions.

As it is.... you are going up against some pros. I became aware of the invasion peril in 1971 and became very active in opposing the invasion of our sovereign nation in 1993. I have amassed a veritable fount of knowledge about the subject via extensive research of the type used to write a Master's thesis at the university level.

You can not expect all people to kow tow to the newbie.... it's akin to attempting to teach the proverbial porcine to sing... a waste of time for the instructor and incredibly annoying to what may be next week's bacon.

Originally Posted by Joelous

banned for my opinion wow?
I have followed all rules here!

You're not offering an opinion. You are simply denigrating and baiting the concerned Americans here without offering anything of substance to defend your childish insults.

I think amnesty should only be given to illegals that pay taxes and are not criminals how would they hurt us

First, how would you go about determining which ones paid and which ones didn't Half work under the table and the other half use fraudulent documents.

I think alot of Americans are scared of change and are very selfish just my opinion

The change you speak of is occurring in violation of the law. We didn't want the change, that's why the law is there. Americans accept more legal immigrants yearly than the rest of the world COMBINED! How is that selfish?

banned for my opinion wow? I have followed all rules here!

You're following them now, the question of banishment refers to the race-baiting in your first few posts.

Originally Posted by Joelous

I think amnesty should only be given to illegals that pay taxes and are not criminals how would they hurt us

If they are taking the low paying jobs like they all claim, they wouldn’t add much to the tax base would they. Also lets not forget when you have several children and are low income you get the child tax credit which usually gives back more than what was paid in. Not thanks. Buh Bye Troll.

there will be alot of hispanics here. and theres nothing you or this site can do about it.

No that is not AT ALL the question.

As others have pointed out, the question is not about Hispanics but rather about Mexicans, the ones from Mexico.


Hispanics ARE here to stay, and no one has any real problem with that.


The question is about the Mexicans (citizens of the Narco-State of Mexico).


The question is whether or not they WANT to overthrow the government (in the U.S.)

The question is whether they would try to do this by FORCE or not.

The question is whether they will try to DESTROY and Physically Harm the Americans who are already here.

Those are the questions.

That is the point about WHY Americans mind Mexicans - Illegal ones - coming to the U.S.

The point is that Most American have a fear of being harmed, of having some kind of civil war, of finding their homes on fire, of seeing their schools bombed, or their children harmed.

THOSE are the Fears that Americans have, ON TOP OF the issue of the Jobs, On Top of the Other issues involved in Illegal Immigration.

You seem to be under the impression that you think that an Illegal is acting on his own, without influence or force or pressure from the Drug Cartels or from the OTHER forces of Corruption in Mexican AND in South America.

It is the Corruption, the Instability, the Drugs, the Higher Taxes, the More Crime that Americans watch and see and Legitimately FEAR when they see ILLEGALS coming into their community.


Do you know that ONE THIRD of those in American Prisons are ILLEGALS ?


That does Not seem like those people are coming here ONLY to work.



The issue is not only the higher taxes that everyone pays for this, but also the other burden this places on communities.

What this means...in real terms is that the American Crime Rate has declined by 30% on a NATIONAL BASIS in the U.S., but none of us know that...because the other part of the Crime is being committed by the Illegals.

These Illegals are NOT the innocent people coming over here, with no strings attached.

They bring baggage— they bring a mentality, a mindset, a certain way of thinking and doing things...that is VERY OFTEN - a fundamental contradiction to the way that Americans Have of living and doing things.

Multitudes of them are under the control of these foreign forces, that reach VERY HIGH up in the Mexican Government.

Their corrupt officials are constantly being indicted, for Murder and very serious crimes.

That is not a SMALL problem. This is a CHAIN of problems. AND THAT is why (or Part of Why) Americans have trouble with Illegals coming to this Nation.



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