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    Re: Stop Supporting Lou Dobbs!

    Quote Originally Posted by teridavisnewman
    He has no qualifications for the Senate other than reading a script on TV, he's a talking head! If you want to support someone for US Congress, support this woman: www.voteforteri2010.com
    She's got a strong message, is adamantly opposed to amnesty and her message is resonating with the voters of the 12th Congressional district and she's a FIREBALL when she talks to the people--she's a blonde Palin and she's wicked smart! Take a look at her because she's far more deserving than a washed up TV anchor!
    Ms. Newman - I sent the following email to you but now that I realize you are actually commenting on the site, I'll share it here (ital = quotes from Ms. Newman's site; bold = particular issues I noticed):

    Dear Ms. Newman -

    I'm concerned about some of the things I've read on your site and wanted to bring them to your attention (in no particular order).

    I ask my minority friends, how do you think that $318 million dollars could have improved your life in East St. Louis? I stand before you, to ask for your vote and support in this election — not your money — just your VOTE on November 2, 2010. The Democrats have USED YOUR SUPPORT TO STAY IN POWER AND ENRICH THEMSELVES AT YOUR EXPENSE, while at the same time, allowing your living conditions to continue to get worse. Is there ANY WAY I could POSSIBLY do less for you that the Democrats have done for you in the last 30 years?

    One of the biggest problems that exists in US govt is this doing things for us. Americans are supposed to be a self-governing, self-supporting people who do things for themselves at the local level and send representatives to State & Local Assembles/Congress/the White House/etc to serve us. The service is limited by the US and State Constitutions. The worst thing any politician can do is tell us that he/she is going to do things for us.

    The America of today is not the America of my childhood. Our problems have become more complicated, and our ability to solve them has diminished markedly. Our country needs NEW leaders. The culture of corruption that has taken over our nation’s Capitol is a threat to all of us. Honesty and integrity in government has gone by the wayside as our elected officials serve only those with money to spend, and who can buy whatever they want from our legislators and leave the rest of us to pay the bill.

    WE are the ones who are paying the outrageous taxes brought on by the exceedingly poor management of our tax dollars. Government waste has gone far beyond outrageous. Government corruption is a rotting, bloated cow that will poison all of us if we do nothing and IT MUST STOP!! The trillions of dollars that are being wasted, spent on bailouts, bailouts that were opposed by the voters who were IGNORED by our so-called REPRESENTATIVES, have put our country in terrible jeopardy.

    It should be against the law to vote on a bill that you have not read. Would you personally sign a contract that you yourself have not read? No, of course not!! Why then, should it be OK to vote on a bill, representing your constituents, that you haven’t read, that will spend millions, if not billions of OUR tax money? That’s not representation, that’s malfeasance of office ... and JERRY COSTELLO SUPPORTED THE BAILOUT AND VOTED FOR IT!!


    We will never have the America of our childhoods but the founding fathers gave us (all the citizens of the US) the tools to solve the problems we face. Again, it's not a matter of leadership because we lead ourselves. It's a matter of doing it on the local level and govt is involved as little as possible. It's not that our tax $$ have been badly spent, it's not even the failure to read the bills (though that's important), it's that we are being taxed on every level and govt thinks it can take from us whenever it pleases. Representatives/servants, on the other hand, do the job they've taken on and must really convince us to allow them to spend any of our money. we need no new leaders but willing servants/representatives. With leaders, we have people telling us what to do. With reps/servants, we determine what to do.

    What do you think is going to happen to us when the COMMUNIST CHINESE stop buying our debt? Think about that for just a minute

    I wish politicians would think about this issue. I wish they would also realize that if they get out of the way, Americans can figure out ways to pay down the debt and go from being a borrowing nation to one that lends. The same is true about healthcare - we can figure it out.

    Overall, we need the minimum amount of govt interference. We need reps/servants who will actually work on dismantling the Unconstitutional megalith our govt has become. We need to return responsibility to the states, enforce our immigration laws and control our borders, support our friends and stand up to our enemies and be clear on which is which - we need to realize that the country that came into being because we wanted to worship God in freedom still exists and be that country.

    I am looking for reps/servants to support for 2010 throughout the country. I will give my $$ to those who convince me that they will actually represent me. I haven't got a great deal but there are many like me and together, we've got the ability to take this country back. If you want our support, please take a good look at the language you use (we will believe what you say - we've been taught that lesson well) and most importantly, discover what we actually want. Your site, while discussing some very important issues, represents more nanny govt. We're adults. We do it for ourselves. We'd be proud to help you serve us if that's the job you believe you've been given. But take an honest assessment of yourself: if you're a do-gooder with a plan or even just the determination to fix things for us, please don't run. Too many of those in office today began that way. We don't need more. I'll be following your campaign.

    (mod edited - name removed)

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    This email will also be a post on my blog and on FB. I hope for the best.

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    Dobbs Interview


    I haven't been keeping up with Dobbs very much until recently, but, to me, it seemed like he was "tiptoeing through the tulips" in that interview. I didn't get a real clear stance from him on any of the issues.

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    Dobbs

    Well, I just listened to the interview with Lou Dobbs and Maria at EStudio.

    It seems that Mister Dobbs is becoming political.
    Now, generally, I consider that to be the same thing as a traitor to the Constitution and thereby, this country and its people.
    I do not consider it that way, in this case.
    I think he may be trying to be fair, but will find out that you cannot please all the people all the time.
    His comment on securing the border was a great first step in stemming the flow of Illegal (undocumented immigrants - whatever that is) Immigrants.
    It was a tactful way in saying that things have to change.
    Now, as with all politicians, we will have to see how he positions himself in relation to those who want to make all the illegals, Latino and otherwise, citizens who would vote Democratic or set up programs to return the illegal immigrants to the country of their origin.
    These people are criminals just as much as if I were caught sneaking into Mexico and upon discovery, be deported after some entertaining jail time.
    It seems that this reporter and as a matter of fact, many other of our own politicians, would like to keep our borders weak.
    Few other countries in the world have borders as lax as ours are intentionally kept.
    We have the laws against illegal immigration. Otherwise it wouldn't be illegal.
    We just are enforcing those laws arbitrarily. As it suits someone.
    As one point was wrongly made around Regan's time. The illegals were doing jobs nobody else would want.
    Now, I don't know about you, but after I retire and Social Security is busted, I'll probably have to wash dishes and get paid under the table to survive. And I will do so with as much pride and honor as I do my job today. Our retirement money is already wiped out before I had a chance to retire. Thanks International Bankers! Yet, I digress.

    I think we should offer Mr. Dobbs to come out and be straightforward regarding his stance in the illegal immigration problem facing us and save the soft talk for another time and another people.
    I have never really seen where 'Politically Correct' ever really served anyone except as a means for the weak to fetter the strong.
    I would support Mr. Dobbs if he stayed strong and not fold to whatever wind he thinks he needs to bow to.

    If, however, Mr. Dobbs sanctioned making the Illegal Immigrants into citizens without making them go through the extant immigration laws, then I'd say that I cannot support him.

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    Re: Mr. Lou Dobbs

    Quote Originally Posted by leenorthstar
    Just very upset that Mr. Dobbs appeared on Telemundo. This was a hack job on her part and either Mr. Dobbs caved to the pressure or he has indeed changed his position. Both of these weaknesses give me pause.

    These are NOT undocumented workers. They are here illegally and as such should be sent back ASAP.

    I am an American by birth, as are my parents and as were my Grandparents (now deceased). I am also of Mexican descent, and I do NOT support Amnesty, because this never ends. Assume 10 to 15 million illegals now. If granted amnesty, the next logical move by the liberals will be to push for family re-unification. Now multiply the numbers by 3 or 4 fold. When will the US go after the Mexican Government, including the illegals?
    Welcome to ALIPAC, leenorthstar! And YES, you are absolutely right! Once these are legalized, then they move for family re-unification and chain migration number quadruple at minimum. We're presently 40 million jobs short in the United States. Our economy truly can't hold the illegal aliens that are here now and they must be removed and in addition, we must dramatically reduce legal immigration numbers back to the 1970's replacement levels just like Roy Beck and NumbersUSA says.

    We're up a creek without a paddle, literally, and we must take the corrective actions needed to save our country both on immigration issues as well as free trade treason matters. This nonsense has to stop. Another reason I liked Lou so much is he truly understood the devastating consequences of free trade.

    Glad you're here with US leenorthstar and look forward to more of your posts.

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    Re: Lou Dobbs

    Quote Originally Posted by kimsvision
    Everyone ~
    Please understand that Lou needs the hispanic vote whether he plans to be a Congressman, Senator, or President. Every politician has had to kiss a little bit of illegal butt to get elected. I don't think Lou would have a chance without the Hispanic, Asian, and European vote.
    Anyone who has watched him on CNN knows that he's passionate about stopping illegal immigration, especially with unemployment being so outrageous with this current administration.
    I was impressed that he made Maria back down so many times, and he handled himself without a script and tele-prompter.
    Kimsvision:
    You need to explain yourself. I'm sure the other posters have questions for you too...
    So tell me this...Why would LOU or any politician for that matter, feel they were obligated to kiss the ass of someone who technically had no right being in this country in the first place?????
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    Re: Dobbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle
    Well, I just listened to the interview with Lou Dobbs and Maria at EStudio.

    It seems that Mister Dobbs is becoming political.
    Now, generally, I consider that to be the same thing as a traitor to the Constitution and thereby, this country and its people.
    I do not consider it that way, in this case.
    I think he may be trying to be fair, but will find out that you cannot please all the people all the time.
    His comment on securing the border was a great first step in stemming the flow of Illegal (undocumented immigrants - whatever that is) Immigrants.
    It was a tactful way in saying that things have to change.
    Now, as with all politicians, we will have to see how he positions himself in relation to those who want to make all the illegals, Latino and otherwise, citizens who would vote Democratic or set up programs to return the illegal immigrants to the country of their origin.
    These people are criminals just as much as if I were caught sneaking into Mexico and upon discovery, be deported after some entertaining jail time.
    It seems that this reporter and as a matter of fact, many other of our own politicians, would like to keep our borders weak.
    Few other countries in the world have borders as lax as ours are intentionally kept.
    We have the laws against illegal immigration. Otherwise it wouldn't be illegal.
    We just are enforcing those laws arbitrarily. As it suits someone.
    As one point was wrongly made around Regan's time. The illegals were doing jobs nobody else would want.
    Now, I don't know about you, but after I retire and Social Security is busted, I'll probably have to wash dishes and get paid under the table to survive. And I will do so with as much pride and honor as I do my job today. Our retirement money is already wiped out before I had a chance to retire. Thanks International Bankers! Yet, I digress.

    I think we should offer Mr. Dobbs to come out and be straightforward regarding his stance in the illegal immigration problem facing us and save the soft talk for another time and another people.
    I have never really seen where 'Politically Correct' ever really served anyone except as a means for the weak to fetter the strong.
    I would support Mr. Dobbs if he stayed strong and not fold to whatever wind he thinks he needs to bow to.

    If, however, Mr. Dobbs sanctioned making the Illegal Immigrants into citizens without making them go through the extant immigration laws, then I'd say that I cannot support him.
    Welcome to ALIPAC, Oracle! And I totally agree with your approach. I also think we need to give him time to respond and clarify. After all, the election is almost 3 years away, so there's no rush in my view. Lets give him time and see where our Lou might lead this issue when he returns and is back at work.
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    How do we follow up and see the results of the survey as more people vote on it? I can't find it on the website and when I click on the email notice it tells me I've already taken it and won't let me in. Thanks.

    Judy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC
    If Lou Dobbs has turned on us then the most strategic time to take action against his agenda, if he has gone over to the amnesty / legalization side, would be soon while the story is hot.

    We will honor those of you that want to give more Lou Time but we are only going to wait till Monday midday Tuesday at the latest.

    The outcry across the nation is so loud that if Lou Dobbs cant hear it and respond to it by then he deserves what he gets.

    W
    Since William said we would wait until Monday or Tuesday at the latest to give Lou Dobbs time to respond, I think we shoud abide by that.
    I believe that is fair and reasonable considering the firestorm his comments have caused. I personally along with many others hope he can redeem himself.
    "When injustice become law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson

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    We have over $671,000 in pledges from 3,683 ALIPACers when I just checked the website. That's some heavy money. Lets see if we can reach our goal while giving Dobbs time to respond. I don't think we should rush this. This is a huge decision and haste can make waste.
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    Re: Lou Dobbs

    Quote Originally Posted by mkfarnam

    Kimsvision:
    You need to explain yourself. I'm sure the other posters have questions for you too...
    So tell me this...Why would LOU or any politician for that matter, feel they were obligated to kiss the ass of someone who technically had no right being in this country in the first place?????
    Hi MK ~
    Let me explain that comment. I don't feel that they (or anyone) is obligated to kiss illegal butt, it's just that the country is so liberal these days, that a majority of the politicians heavily support illegal immigration. (Yes, I live in CA with Nasty Pelosi, Feinstein, and Boxer, and next to Harry Reid's NV) I think Lou may have been pandering to the Telemundo viewers. I truly hope that he is able to explain his actions.

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